A robot took my job...
A robot took my job...
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Yeah I think about this a lot and it really depresses me
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Especially since someone owns the machines and the materials and the end product. We own nothing, so in frame 2 we're missing the capitalist off frame somewhere (probably lounging on a private island) saying "lol, fuck you. You get nothing, it's all mine."
Their idea is "if there isn't enough work for everyone any more than that means there are too many people for what society can support so... Die."
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Capitalism at its peak
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The second frame shows the ideal of post-scarcity communism, the end goal of Marxist communism.
There's still promise as weve seen with the Great Resignation after the 2020 epidemic lockdown and furlough. We learned that:
- People are not typically lazy and rather turn to hobbies and projects rather than TV. (Those who can watch TV for weeks are showing avolition a symptom of mental illness.)
- Some of them were even able to turn their home gig lucrative and some of those were able to quit their day job.
- People don't like their job not because they're layabouts (goldbrickers! slugabeds!) but rather because the job sucks. It may be tedious, or arduous, or frustrating or overwhelming. The work environment might be toxic (literally, if safety precautions are insufficient). It may include inappropriate politics, or deception or harassment by management with no oversight. All these things can be fixed.
- The job may not pay sufficiently. Also bosses may push workers to do more than is impossible to do well. These should be dealbreakers, but we're expected not just to do our jobs, but to negotiate at a disadvantage. Bosses who don't fuck with you and pay you what you're worth are doing you no favors. That is the bare minimum.
- Capitalists would rather seek out exploitable work forces than treat their workers fairly, like human beings, hence efforts to cut benefits early to force people back to shit jobs, and later, seeing to relax child labor protections.
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That is in fact how I was radicalized on the economic front in a debate with a socialist in college
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Radicalization. So hot right now ;)
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I was radicalized before it was cool
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Maybe as a middle ground, you can train an A.I. with your individual skills and institutional knowledge, when it had a gap in response, it pings you. You casually main new things and track it to the A.I. in your style. If/when you leave, company needs to give you all of your data and start again training a new A.I. with new hire.
They won't, but this could be a way to allow A.I. that can work longer, have human oversight, maintain salaries for humans and not repurpose their data if you no longer employ them - as would be the case in real life.
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ROFL. Do people really think this?
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Kind of.
I probably thought like this in my 20s.
Now I'm old enough and jaded enough to realise that it's not really achievable.
I do think this type of utopia is possible, but its not really achievable for 21st century earth mostly because we're more comfortable with a social hierarchy than a less stratified structure.
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oh defintately before I was 20. I think the thing is that its the reason I was a science major and then I was to busy for a long long time to really think otherwise. Once I was no longer working toward such a future and was more just working for a living it became increasingly clear that we are not progressing in this way that I thought we would.
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Yeah, have you ever worked with someone who wasn't good at their job yet? Like so bad you wonder why they even bother coming in.
Imagine a world where computers and machines can do anything you can do but better. You and everyone else would be like an incompetent employee no matter how hard you worked at it.
Why would you even try to keep up? Why not just do things you actually wanted to do and live your life? Is this really such an unbelievable position to take?
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It makes sense if all the jobs are that way and there's a universal basic income associated with that society.
The reason this post is stupid though is because the position being automated is not yours once it's automated. So a machine now flips your burgers, what does that mean? The employer you had now has to track which burgers you would have flipped and pay you for them? For how long? Until you "retire" and they have to "hire" someone else the robot flips the burgers for?
It doesn't make any sense. You stop getting money when you stop providing value unless society as a whole decides to support all it's people. That is a great aspiration but hard to do fairly.
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Perhaps kids
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