Randomly found this on Reddit

Having them pointed towards lemmy.ml is a little concerning.

I made an alternative linking to lemm.ee

because in general this is a good flyer
- We should do a bunch of them with varying non-Tankie instances
  
  Like programming.dev or lemmy.blahaj.zone
  
  Or maybe even better, have a small table at the bottom with their focuses
To be fair, it was apparently posted in r/anarchocommunism, so I'd just chalk it up to knowing your audience. At least it was just .ml, and not grad or hexbear!
- I'd say that's even more tone-deaf then. Anarchists hate tankies.
More than a little concerning, it's happened plenty of times before. People see that BS on the Tankie Triad and then leave thinking Lemmy is just a bunch of tankies

Sometimes they try another non-Tankie instance and realize that we're not all like that, but I'm sure a majority never return always thinking that all of Lemmy is "that Tankie hangout" or worse, a Voat 2.0
I'm not very into Lemmy, what's so bad about lemmy.ml?
- They're part of the Tankie Triad who deny the human rights violations of the CCP and hold them up as the gold standard.
  
  Basically Authoritarian bootlickers pretending to not be authoritarians
- It's controversial. It was created by the creators of Lemmy and has some techbro feelings about a lot of stuff. I'm not trying to start an .ml fight, I'm against pushing for any particular instance.
  
  I would recommend new users to stay away from the biggest ones and steer towards one level down. You want enough communities and instances to line your front page, but the big ones are big enough. Let's spread the load.
- It's a tankie instance. "ML" as in Marxism-Leninism.
- https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
- We read and comprehend the Communist Manifesto with some level of agreement and usually quite a bit more. But it's mostly privacy focused. Full disclosure: vegan anarchist.
Capitalism destroyed our government, captured our constitution, and is literally ending the world (for humans, don't worry it'll be fine in a few million years and it'll be like we never existed, thank goodness for that).

I find comedy in people likely here due to the greed rot of Spez wanting to go public and now fondling billionaire balls still, here on Lemmy like digital refugees in the wake of capitalism breaking promises to and destroying a community to increase private profit, going "ewww commies and socialists."

Credit where it's due, the capitalist's Orwell game is God tier.
- .ml would be worse than Reddit if they had the same number of users.
- No, we are going "ewww tankies"
- I mean they are annoying
Whatever, infighting gets us nowhere , down with the big bad
Who cares, just get them onboarded and we can deal with orientation later
- Because they'll onboard see the Tankie bullshit and go "oh it's just Voat 2.0 :/" and leave before ever making it to orientation

i left yesterday after 12 years. joined lemmy. the internet was a lot cooler before it was run by billionaires and ass kissers who are intimidated by billionaires.

fuck em all

i left yesterday after 12 years. joined lemmy.

Welcome!

Here's your welcome-possum:
- I thought we do welcome beans?
Welcome!
When you've settled in, consider joining a smaller instance! Just because it has "Lemmy" in the name doesn't mean it's official or good. We all federate together, so you can still join communities hosted on other instances.
- thank you! still wrapping my head around the "instances" thing but i think i'm starting to get it
Welcome, glad you could make it! I hope you find this to be a cool place.

For best results, subscribe to communities you want to have a dedicated feed for, and block communities, instances and users that aren't worth your time, since there is the occasional jerk like you might find anywhere on the internet.
- since there is the occasional jerk like you
  
  Hey!
  
  might find anywhere on the internet.
  
  Oh.
I'm going to repeat what I've been saying a lot lately. The default is "active." If that gets boring (it probably will), switch to "hot," "new," and "top 6 hours" to get a more vibrant experience. The search engine is confusing at first, but is pretty good.
Welcome!
Welcome to the fight soldier.

ignore the piles of beans.
- Currently shitty egg memes I believe.
Welcome!

The web UI is accessible on any device and there are plenty of apps as well such as Sync and Voyager.
- Jerboa has treated me well. I tried others but Jerboa is similar to Baconreader which is what I used in the olden times
Excellent. Every long term power redditor exiting is a good blow to reddit. They're left with all the lurkers who just want to consume content so they'll have to rely more and more on ai slop until people realize it's all fake.
My account is 14 years old, and I’m almost to the my line where I’m going to torch it. The censorship is getting bad!

I do miss the Reddit from 10-14 years ago. So sad that it’s gone. It was truly amazing.
- Well you're in a good spot. Lemmy is like reddit 14 years ago 😅
- You kept your account for 14 years? I always deleted my accounts after some time. Longest one was for almost 3 years I think.
- I found all the automated tools don't work anymore. It took me 3 hours to manually delete all my content before I i deleted my account. Good luck.
What up big dog

So nice that radical activism only requires I switch apps 🥳

Yeah this thing is worded so strong for what it is
- I don't know how the French are able to rally in real life and put everything on the line to push back fascism. I know I should do something real to fight back, but like, I've got a lot going on ya know? Maybe I'll be rallied by the time atrocities have already happened, but I hope not.
Plot twist: it's a ploy by reddit to get extremists off their platform and on to Lemmy
- It's a plot twist to overload the servers of single instances.

runs from censorship

goes to Lemmy.ml

I think that kind of defeats your point here

.world straight up blocks /c/piracy and "preemptively" blocked hexbear.
- Blocking hexbear is a sensible choice, good for them.
- They blocked piracy for like a day over a year ago and then unblocked it when the users were clearly against it.
  
  Hexbear being blocked is a good thing and overwhelmingly supported by the users.
- lemmy.dbzer0.com then? 😎
- blocking hexbear is a good idea
  
  ~~world unblocked priacy instances over a year ago~~ with the notable exception of the db0 instance
- So they took the initiative to stop Hexbear brigading and spamming their authoritarian bootlicking on their instance? Good choice.

Imagine running from censorship and going to Lemmy.ml lmao

Right? Way to destroy a movement and make a bunch of people run back to Reddit and "never again".
- Honestly for the subreddit this was made for .ml is probably the best fit and I'm okay with keeping them over there.

They should really include the no ads thing. I think it's a great selling point, and it would be useful to leverage.

While this is true some instances do need donations it's very probable that some instances could include ads in the future.
- Totally fair, but at the moment, there are none. And even if instances will start using 3rd party ads, there will also be instances that will never run ads. The power of federation at work.

It's a little bit dramatic, it's a little bit wordy.
Yup, it probably is a genuine thing from the source: certainly, it was written by a redditor.

"Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

Yeah, this is a terminally online manifesto that I couldn't even get through. It's roleplay and storytelling, which is what our species is great at, but it doesn't connect with reality beyond that.

Look guys, if you want to engage in some kind of organized social action that will actually make a difference, turn off social media entirely. You moving from reddit to lemmy feels good in a micro-narrative, but nobody cares, it won't change anything for anyone. It's not bad, but it's not some heroic action either.

You can do so, so much more for the causes you care about by GOING THE FUCK OUTSIDE.
- You can do so, so much more for the causes you care about by GOING THE FUCK OUTSIDE.
  
  I mean....it all starts with communication, right?
  
  This platform is a source for communication. One that isn't affected by corporate goons and Nazis the way Reddit is. The internet is literally the most effective form of communication if used properly. Yeah, you eventually have to go outside and get dirty, but it starts places like this.
  
  We shouldn't be putting this post down. It's not productive.
- I think that you can leave reddit and do other meaningful things as well. In fact it might even help you do so. And being a little dramatic might just be what some people need as a push to do it. I didn't get through all of this either, but then I have already left there.
lemmy . ml sucks too, btw… this little flyer leads people straight into the worst instance… one that’s essentially only chinese communist propaganda

While I agree with the message, that the people should leave all centralized Social Media services, the big mistake here is concentrating a massive user-base on one instance (.ml) of one specific service (Lemmy) instead of spreading the influx towards many smaller, but still solid instances and federated services (PieFed, Mastodon, MBin).

Even disregarding .ml's reputation, if this post does reach a substantial user-base, the only thing happening then is .ml receiving a HoD and people losing faith in the Fediverse as a whole (e: spelling) due to this, sadly. :c

Edit different versions for different instances

I saw it being denounced as a psyop which I thought was funny, since I think it pretty clearly isn't one. But directing people to lemmy.ml is bad advice as most of us know.

When I first heard of Lemmy, I curiously poked around, and at the time it was just lemmygrad and ml. Needless to say I backed out quickly. Glad it got some diversity with the api kerfuffle.

I love it, but I fear for the day Lemmy becomes so popular that it is worthwhile for the corporate bots to begin gaming Lemmy’s algorithm to dominate front pages. I don’t think Lemmy is prepared to defend against this.

I am still new to the fediverse but I figured that smaller constellations will federate without connecting to the largest federation.

It’s harder to manipulate 500 disjoint federations than 1 really large one. Especially when some of those federations rely on heavy verification.

Of course those smaller federations are likely organized around specific purposes or organizing interests rather than broad public discourse.
- You might want to have a look at https://gui.fediseer.com/
- Part of what makes Reddit so great is the huge community of content creators. Both the posts and comments. Lemmy has slowly been catching up, but still is far off.
  
  Defederating from large instances will just result in lower quality content for those instances. I would hope there’d be a better solution, but I’m not smart enough to think of one.
  
  Maybe the secret is to let each instance control their own sorting algorithm. They keep getting the content from the large instances, but control how it gets brought to the front page. My guess is this would be no small task, but that would definitely make it difficult to game the algorithm.
I think we might reach a point that, instead of one application in the beginning, we'd have to have periodic "re-verification" to prove that you are human (and haven't been taken over by a bot). Like maybe once every 6 months. And on the 5th month, you can begin early submission for the re-verification application.

im kind of embarrassed by how cringe this is and i really hope they dont represent the fediverse

I, uh, upvoted the post and reversed it.

Fucking sends people to .ml specifically. Whoosh.
In this moment, I am euphoric...

-Aalewis
I despise the way cringe gets used like this, and I still agree 100% with you

.ml? hope they know.

what's wrong with my instance? its a real question, i dont use lemmy that often
- Extremely sensitive admins who ban people from all communities for any criticism of China, Cuba and North Korea.
  
  It's a running joke on Lemmy at this point.
They do, look at their unbelievably purple prose. This person thinks they're the modern day Lenin or something.
- Fortunately it seems a number of us steered people towards other servers like BlahajZone, LemmyWorld, and SlrPnk.

revolutions are born in monents like these

Holy shit can this whole thing be any more corny? Is this done by teenagers? Don’t get me wrong fuck Musk/reddit/etc. but what is even the outrage about this time?

Subreddits are being banned and important information being hindered from being seen. It may be corny to you but at least they're trying. What have you done?
- I'm not sure if I share the exact same sentiment as @mint_tamas@lemmy.world, but I honestly did have the thought of, "Who (or For Whom), does this format work for anymore?"
  
  Like I get it, it's classical and all. A call back to a historic time where action was taken (just don't look into it too hard, you'll get disappointed if you learn outside the "Americuh" version). But, now it just feels a little ... disingenuous? Idk the exact word/feeling, maybe because it's been co-opted by so many bad actors or maybe that we're talking about social media websites.
  
  I guess this format gives off a dude's "Love, Live, Laugh" version of righteousness, that even though the message may be correct, it just feels like a weird marketing technique.
- I limited my internet time to just an hour or two a day and stopped caring about any of this worthless performative BS.
  
  If there are causes you care about or actions you want to take to impact the world and make a difference, GOING THE FUCK OUTSIDE does so, so much more than this kind of roleplay teenage bullshit. Moving your worthless scrolling time from one website to another isn't going to bring the establishment to its knees. But going out and donating a box of socks and underwear to a community food bank will literally change someone's life.
  
  edit: if these kinds of messages make you angry or feel called out, that's a sure, 100% accurate predictor that you're exactly who this message is directed at. For that matter, if you're reading the feelings and opinions of others (what social media is) then you're not living your own life and finding your own emotional states and this is why we're here. We're discarding our lives to live in both the rage and satisfaction of others. When was the last time you sought out other HUMANS to feel these things? How much have you worked to exercise whatever shriveled spark of free-will is left in there? Are you just surfing from stimulation to stimulation as your brain invents rationalizations for your lack of actual life and progress? GO OUT AND DO LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE, YOU SHOULDN'T BE SITTING IN FRONT OF YOUR MONITOR ANGRY YOU DENSE, TRAPPED MOTHERFUCKER.
Is this done by teenagers?

Quite possibly. There'd be no real way of knowing. But it does sound like young people trying to find an outlet and seeking change--as ineffectual as it may seem to jaded old timers.

Aside from other concerns, I find the association with Brexit to be less than ideal. But people should also note that this was posted on r/anarchocommunism so it makes sense they recommended lemmy.ml

Overall it's fine, we are still at the stage where just getting people to hear about the existence of Lemmy is a big win. They may join and leave, they may just navigate to the page and not join, but now they are aware of it and may eventually decide to join in the future when reddit fucks up again.

DB0 would be a far better fit like @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world said
- That's true, but I'm just pointing out that it's a leftist subreddit recommending lemmy.ml, so it's not going out to a generalized audience.
  
  And honestly they're not as tankie as people claim, that title really belongs to hexbear and lemmygrad. The management of lemmy.ml is tankie friendly, but many or even most of the users are not actually tankies.
  
  It's very complicated because they were the main server for a long time before any of us even joined Lemmy, and all of their public descriptions don't even mention leftism at all, it's just about privacy and FOSS. Many users have made accounts there and used it for years without really caring or engaging with the tankie allegations or posts. It's not as bad as some people make it out to be.
  
  Hexbear on the other hand is actually worse than anyone could ever explain without experiencing it for yourself. So let's not forget the two servers are not identical.

where every user is a revolutionary

Ahem. Cosplays as a revolutionary.

Tell me the difference between resistance and performative resistance?
- Look I'm not gonna dox the mf'er, but the primary force behind the .ml instance, and frankly all of lemmy, spends a lot of time enjoying the privilege and benefits that come with being a well paid software living in a "global north" social democracy. Thankfully, they have since cleaned up their profile, but previously, it was trivially easy to figure out where a certain person lived, at least the metro, what company they worked at, and that their income range was well into the 6 figure plus.
  
  If you are new to lemmy, maybe take a bit more time to develop your understanding of the 'lore' that underpins this place. If you are already familiar, please understand that basically the core development team of lemmy, and admins of the dot ml instance advocate for a kind of authoritarianism they've been shielded from their entire lives, and that they've enjoyed extraordinary privilege that has only, historically, been available to the global north, and specifically, a kind of democratic socialism that affords them incredible breadth of opportunity. And its fine that they have contradictions and don't live their perspectives; but I'm going to exercise a significant degree of criticism at this disconnect.

That's some grade A fine vintage gourmet cringe.

It's quite bombastic. I just wanted a place that wasn't run by a corporation.
I skimmed it the first time and didn't notice how bad it was. I don't like using the word cringe but this is quite the composition, lmao

What a hero

Haha who the hell made this? This reads like a basement dwellers wet dream. "fight the man! Fight the machine!.....from our keyboards!"

Does it wax poetic? Yeah, sure.

Is it right? Yes.

Is it from our keyboards? So what? That's how it starts. If we don't congregate and open communication about what's happening in a space where we can't be censored, then there's no chance of anything in opposition happening.

It borders on cringe, but I support it 100%.

Technically correct, but I wonder how people are gonna handle the really serious dictator shit, like friends and relatives disappearing instead of tweets.

We need a place to communicate, coordinate, and share what's happening. Control of the narrative and the ability to prevent coordinated responses are essential for their plans.
- So okay, now that we have clear alternatives to reddit, twitter, etc, is it time to work on the actual problems yet or keep raging about corporate media?

Another reddexit?

There have been multiple, i left at the second, but reddit is filled to the brim with AI accounts and people who have no idea. Even if its all fake, reddit has enough traffic Tongo on for a while.

True. But Reddit has already lost users. I 100% noticed a reduction after they banned 3rd party apps. Daily top posts don't have as many upvotes as they used to. Less total comments.

A small win, but a win nonetheless. I mean, we're here.

here we go bois

I hope lemmy.ml is ready for the influx, particularly as this post linked them directly.

Hopefully NOT so it breaks and people go-to more sane instances
- Think of your average redditor. They'll just think it's broken and go back to reddit.

You lost me at the tankie instance link.

.ml is not the tankie instance. It just has some tankies, maybe more than others. I do agree that .ml should not be advertised as the default
- Really? Isn't it run by a tankie too?

I guess we can expect the amount of time it spends up to be counted in minutes..

And... it's gone.
- Still up?
  
  https://old.reddit.com/r/anarchocommunism/comments/1iiagxi/call_out_ops_where_you_find_them/
- Good, needs to be redone to remove lemmy.ml and put literally any other instance not in the Tankie Triad

lemmy.ml 😬

Xit

Surprised it wasn’t banned quickly

ITT: reddit 2.0 normies (read .world) crying about .ml again

Oh, for fucks sake.

Lemmy mods delete posts and threads too. Interesting choice to use the Lemmy.ml instance in this message. Coincidentally they just deleted one of my threads in asklemmy recently.

Should've point to .world

Isn't that one the most popular of the lemmy instances?

EDIT: this is mostly so the newcomer finds plenty content to not leave after a few minutes of browsing.

https://lemm.ee/ defaults to All, second most active instance

Here's the thing. A platform is it's users. 2 years ago Lemmy rocked. Now the Redditors are arriving and it's turning into a literal Reddit clone. Open the front page 2 years ago and it was all kinds of exciting and novel stuff. Now it's Trump bad, nazi bad, fascism bad, racism bad, homophobia bad, musk moron, celebrity dead.

edit: Proof received via downvotes. Oldhead Lemmy users know I'm right. Welcome, jackasses, I guess.

You realize there's a fascist takeover happening right now, yes? It has nothing to do with redditors and everything to do with current events.
- Um.
  
  A bunch of Reddit assholes showing up in response to that idea, somehow nullifies my point???!
  
  edit: Point proven again. You make a comment disconnected to my statement; I point out you're having a convo with the music in your head... downvotes.
  
  Reddit is happening here and now and you're all watching it and denying it.
Add filters https://lemmy.world/post/24545370

Makes the experience more bearable.
- Right? It's not that hard. For a while, it seemed like 25% of the front page was porn, but it was was pretty easy to filter out. Just do the same for American politics, if it means that much to you.