A Coup Is In Progress In America
A Coup Is In Progress In America
A coup is underway in the United States, and we must stop pretending otherwise. The signs are unmistakable and accelerating: in just the past 48 hours, Elon Musk’s DOGE commission has seized …
Part of the issue is that elites have already bought into the coup. You don't eviscerate the US government without making sure the rich are on side first.
That's why so many CEOs publicly made gestures of support for trump just before and after the election.
The only way to stop the fascists who already have control of the courts, the government and the rich would be mass mobilization of a significant % of the population, or a military counter-coup.
Business Plot, take 2.
People voted for the coup. People were warned, they were told it would happen, it was all documented in writing, they had a fucking website with the "we are going to do a coup" plan. People had a beta version 4 years ago. People still voted for the coup. And if you look at the world outside of lemmy, people don't care about the coup.
it has been a fairly dry winter around all those golf course communities.
I feel like some of those CEOs must have done so out of fear or even blackmail. I really think some of them dislike Trump as much as many of us, but they were invited to the white house and were told something like "If you don't show support, by words and money, your company won't have a place in America ". I know that some, like Tim Cook, are even part of groups hated by Trump, LGBTQ in this case. I just don't see him and some others doing it out of their own choice.
I'm sure that some of them choose to participate in fascism only reluctantly. Nonetheless they determined that fascism was ultimately in their best interest and threw their support behind it. That's as much "their own choice" as anything is.
This is an emergency, and it demands emergency response from every American with power or influence. The window for effective resistance narrows with each passing day. History will judge harshly those who had the capacity to resist but chose instead to wait and see how things develop. The time to act is now, before the mechanisms that would allow effective resistance are completely dismantled.
The alarms are being sounded, and not just from this publication. If nobody that has even a shred of power does anything... well fuck.
What can I do? Shit posting hasn't helped.
What can I do?
Depends on how much you you value you freedom/life, cuz the things that need to be done could put both in jeopardy. Leave your cell phone at home.
If nobody that has a shred of power does anything
why would they start now?
Top comment from Mike Brock’s blog (where this diatribe came from):
Right now it feels we have a growing chorus of people raising alarm, but very few people proposing any specific actions that are commensurate with the scale of the crisis? I appreciate your work and I don’t mean this flippantly, but do you have any proposals more specific than “resist” or “do something”?
This comment is my thought exactly. Brock isn’t wrong, but he’s just blowing real hard and hoping the house falls down.
All this blog did was piss me of, but it didn’t point me in a direction.
(But thanks for posting, OP.)
Because there is still time for people in power to stop being cowed. That is what this is calling for: do something before it is too late to avoid it becoming an illegitimate government, with all that brings.
Is your interpretation that this post is intended for politicians to read and take action? If so what do you think they should do?
Like the commenter above us I'm at a loss. Short of resorting to force, there doesn't seem like an action the average person can take that would accomplish anything. Our politicians don't seem to be acting in proportion to the threat. And even if they were, Republicans have a (slim) majority. Even if you were to say we've reached the point where force is called for, against who?
Supposedly we have mechanisms to counter what's going on. The people in DC need to be pulling those lenders yesterday. Every person in politics should be fighting back.
If you're looking for advice on what citizens should do, that's not who the people sounding the are talking to.
Yeah. The instant this bullshit started happening, last week or ideally earlier, go to a federal judge. Ask for an injunction to allow you to physically put a stop to it, using some specifically named authorized law enforcement or military assets. Have something prepared for why it justifies that level of response, lord knows it wouldn't be hard to come up with.
It might not work. They might not grant the order. All kinds of things could happen if they did. But fucking try. That's the level that is required at this point. You can show up, with a physical piece of paper signed by an authorized judge and with deadly force at the ready, and if one of these tech-bro goons in a suit and a slick haircut bars the door with his 2 security people and tries to say "No that's not how the constitution works anymore, Trump said so," you'll have however-many trained military personnel whose ear will perk back up to some things they heard in their training.
I don't know, man. All kinds of things could go wrong. But if it doesn't work, at least you can say you fucking tried before moving on to something more drastic, or else getting out of the country while the getting is good. Going on TV, or threatening to use your debating even debating-er, is clearly a waste of everyone's time right now.
The founding fathers would have you join a mass of people outside the homes of the legislators demanding they take action or suffer consequences.
Its because its against TOS everywhere to say what must be done, and people are too afraid/divided/poor to do it.
You're not allowed to speak the obvious answer.
The coup happened decades ago. They're now comfortable enough in their power that the mask can come off.
I hate that I'm typing this...
People need to start buying weapons right now. It's not that I think we're at the "take up arms" phase. It's that I think we should be ready before they keep us from being able to.
With all the shit they're pulling with federal databases, I expect people are going to start being added to NICS (background check database) for political reasons.
When you get a NICS denial, there's no explanation of why it's was denied, but you can't buy a gun.
And it will alert the FBI that you tried.
Yeah they will absolutely try to deny gun ownership based on political affiliation
If that happens. Theres going to be a huge influx of gun shows.
FYI, the "Gun Show Loophole" isn't a real thing. Dealers still have to fill out a 4473 and run a background check at gun shows. There's even a checkbox for it on the 4473.
What there is is a private sales loophole, where individuals can sell a gun on the secondary market.
That doesn't require a gun show.
As a Libertarian who voted Democrat in the last several elections, I agree. tRump is not as pro 2A as he claims, he's fine with "his" people being armed, but I could totally see him trying to block others from gun purchases, especially if he sees them as "enemies" to his cause.
Lmao no conservative in this country would be for a gun ban. Ever. They might suck the orange balls but they suck their gun muzzles even harder while saying the 2nd amendment out loud. This scenerio would never happen.
US gun control started under Governor Reagan when black people started buying them.
Conservatives aren't the ones that will be banned. They'll target liberals and the conservatives will joke that the dems should be happy for finally getting gun control for themselves.
That won't happen as long as they make sure you can buy all the guns you'd ever want as long as you stay on the RIGHT side of anything political.
How is it a coup when they said they were going to do this and the people still voted for them and their opposition handed over the keys and said "welcome home?" They didn't take over the system by force, they were given the red carpet treatment to a system they already had a significant control over via owning politicians and lobbyists.
Now that the mask is off, people want to act surprised that the same unelected billionaire class continues their dictatorship.
If this wasn't allowed, why haven't they been killed or put in prison like an average citizen who got caught stealing food or who happened to be walking down the street while being Black?
The Supreme Court said the president can do whatever they want, if Biden really believed he was a fascist and a threat to democracy why didn't he just have the CIA kill him like we do to democratically elected leaders all over the world?
Why didn't they take out all these billionaires like they do to children in Palestine?
It's incredibly striking that Americans have more or less been okay with business as usual as long as they can pretend it isn't happening. If you want to stop the billionaire class from using their unilateral control, you really missed your chance. A nation founded as a dictatorship of landowners, slavers, and capitalists, consistent through its entire history in upholding the interests of the bosses over the workers, and yet now it's a coup when they continue to exert their control over their state?
From Trump’s POV it’s actually a heist. He’s going to take everything that’s not bolted down.
Well who gave them the foot in the door? Some decisions are not so easy to walk off huh
Its going to take more than a protest march or office meeting with representatives to undo it. May as well face that fact and prepare
I am not sure you know what a coup is. This guy was elected.
President Leon was not elected.
ETA: The guy who was elected was stupid and vain for most of his life. Now, he's stupid, and vain, with a mind that's failing to dementia. That's to say that if he wasn't easily manipulated by playing to his vanity before, he's not the one in charge now.
An unelected billionaire without Congressional authority is physically going to government agencies and shutting them down, stealing their data, and threatening the staff. If that's not a coup, it's something new that we haven't invented a word for yet. Coup will have to do for now.
So was Hitler, Chavez, Erdogan among others. This take is so blind to history it’s absurd. Facists are often elected democratically.
And they do stage coups. Hitler did, Marcos did in the Philippines, Fujimori in Peru, as well as Chavez and Erdoğan.
Okay, he's a fascist shitbag, no argument there, but its not a coup by definition. This isnt sudden and its not by a small group of people.
- They're referring to Elon, not Trump.
- I'm not sure you know what a coup is, considering any branch can execute a coup to usurp power from the other 2 branches...