Pretending not to pick a side IS picking a side
Pretending not to pick a side IS picking a side
ID: photo of Martin Luther King Jr. waving at the crowd during the March on Washington, on it is his quote: "He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it."
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In a similar vein, anyone eligible to vote and chooses not to implicitly supports whoever wins.
lol no, I'm not going to get mad at my neighbors, I'm going to get mad at people who are actively trying to hurt them, not the ones accidentally doing it
The problem isn't that fascists were voted into the White House. The problem is that there are fascists in the White House. Anything that doesn't address that problem is equally implicit in supporting fascism. Arguing with your neighbors doesn't get fascists out of the White House. If history is anything to go by it has obviously done the opposite
I think they are linked. Democracy can only work and thrive with an educated and/or informed population who is willing and able to have public and civil discourse. The fact that the political climate is the way it is now, so divided and only engaging to act on petty revenges, allows for fascism to take root. We saw this in Germany prior to the second World War. When NSDAP began beating people up in the street who opposed their ideology, with little repercussions for such behavior, led to the beer hall putsch, and eventually the rise of Herr Hitler. I can see parallels with the modern day political climate of America. The issue is that we voted them into the white house; I think that might even be more jarring than them being in there itself. Democratically voting a fascist in power is a tell tale sign that our democracy is not working.
We did not democratically elect a fascist. He cracked the election with a forgein Agent the CIA did nothing about.
Not the same fucking thing.
Even if that is the case, though you've provided no literature or evidence to substantiate such a grandiose claim, there are so many people who blindly support trump and would defend him against all logic and evidence. The fact that you see in many online spaces such massive support for a man like this is very concerning for democracy; just as it was when Hitler gained more and more support in his rise and seizure of power.
I don't need to provide literature. I'm just assuming that you heard Trump admit to the fact, at his inaugeration blather at about 53min in, that Musk did the crack of the system of election counting in all the flip states he was in and left right after bomb threats and other vague threats upon each counter site.
As for the excess of ignorance on the internet, well, I just can't say that I as well give way too much attention to folks running their mouth at me about this shittoo.
Of course, no one needs literature or evidence of any sort; people just say anything these days and knowingly or unknowingly contributes to the misinformation that plagues the country. The whole issue is that people don't feel the need to intellectually defend themselves; so much so that people are now incapable of it. It's tragic that asking people to provide some sort of evidence to substantiate their claim is always met with "i don't need to."
You didn't read a damn thing I wrote. Read it. The point made was applicably relevant. Do your own research. Watch and listen to him say it. That's why you don't need to read a damn thing, thick.
Maybe cite some sources. I shouldn't have to do my own research to substantiate YOUR claim lol.
I did that. You're missing the obvious. Be ignorant by choice on your own time now.
And anyone who votes for genocide without even bothering to vote uncomitted in the primary is a genocider themselves.
Do you join the KKK and vote for the "harm reduction" candidate for grand wizard?
Does the KKK control databases with everybody's SSN, bank account info, addresses, etc?
No, an even more murderous organization does.
Six one way half a dozen the other.
Why are you presenting that like it's a wild hypothetical when they can buy all that from a data broker?
Not necessarily, not in the US's system for President, at least. If you don't live in a swing state, your vote is literally a waste of time. Doesn't matter who you support or don't.
How many swing states would there be if absolutely every person voted?
Almost certainly the same amount. When was the last time you saw a state, that wasn't considered a swing state, flip during a Presidential election from the candidate expected to win it to the other?
No, you bootlickers can repeat the same bullshit party lines and shove your heads up your ass as far as you please to maintain your personal comfort and shield yourself from reality (and from those actually responsible for and who benefit from fascism, which you miraculously never confront or even hold accountable, and are freely willing to
compromise withgive in to), but that doesn't change it - participating in an oppressive system, and voting for one of either oppressive parties designated to you by those benefiting from that system to placate you with an illusion of choice is literally the opposite of protesting said system (E: never even mind that the idea that you can vote fascism away is beyond ignorant and laughable in its own right, it's demonstrably wrong)TL;DR: your vote didn't protest shit, it was manufactured consent for the status quo, get off your fucking high horse
The problem with having these arguments online is that you don't actually know what nonentity did besides vote. What did you do? I've gone to rallies, I've written my representatives, I helped out at my college's Gaza camp, I wrote and called my college's chancellor about the Gaza camp, I've distributed literature about Palestine. And I fucking voted, uncommitted and then Harris, because as public enemy #1b (trans) I don't have the privilege to let whoever wins win. Because people couldn't be bothered to do the bare minimum and take an hour or two to go vote for the lesser evil, the government is erasing me from existence.
I’m genuinely curious what vote of mine didn’t protest shit, given that I’m not, nor ever have been, a Seppo.
And yet you participate in society. Curious!
By the time you get to the general election in the US where it’s guaranteed to be one candidate or the other, that is not where individual efforts have an effect. Those efforts need to happen early in the process.
We are literally living through the drastic harm INCREASE that happens when people didn’t vote for harm reduction.
But I’m not totally disagreeing with you here. I don’t really consider myself an accelerationist, and definitely not a democrat/liberal/capitalist, and if they redid the election I would vote against Trump 10 out of 10 times against almost any real democrat or independent or 3rd party. But the accelerationist path may be the only way through this.