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Switch 2 would arrive in the second half of 2024 and development kits are already out

gamerkick.com Switch 2 would arrive in the second half of 2024 and development kits are already out

The successor to Nintendo Switch named Switch 2 will continue to be a hybrid console that can be played on TV and in portable mode, it will be launched

The successor to Nintendo Switch named Switch 2 will continue to be a hybrid console that can be played on TV and in portable mode, it will be launched without an OLED screen (it will have an LCD) and it will have cartridges/cards for physical games , according to various sources. Anonymous to VGC, where they say that the device is “likely” to hit stores in the second half of 2024. They add that there are already development studios outside the Japanese company with the development kit.

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Switch 2 would arrive in the second half of 2024 and development kits are already out

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Unless I’m missing something here, this website does not provide a link to the original source and adds little to the discussion. They don’t even refer to them by their full name.
This is the original source: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sources-nintendo-switch-2-targets-2024-with-next-gen-console/
This is considered to be very scummy behavior not just in games journalism, but in journalism in general. If you can’t do your own coverage, at least have basic respect for the people who can.
- Let's call it what it is: blog spam. Probably falling under the low effort rule.
- Don't you see. The Switch 2 may have an LCD or an OLED screen! It also may, or may not, have backwards compatibility with the first Switch! It also may, or may not, release in 2024!
  How can anyone not be potentially excited about these things that may, or may not, be true!
  
  It may or may not be able to take us to Mars
- What's worse is that the title states this as fact when the original article claims it's rumors from close sources, we don't actually know when it's coming or if dev kits are widely available.
- SEO centric content farms are a cancer on the internet and on information in general. We have the capability of democratically crowd sourcing the absolute best quality information out there, and make it available to anyone in the blink of an eye.
  Instead we have an army of bots lazily rehashing half-content found on forums and reposting it as misconstrued fact, while battling with other bots for the top third of google's increasingly godforsaken, ad-ridden search results page. All so us poor sods can be interested in something, search for it, and be consistently disappointed in the results we get back while our data is sold to people who will actively work to make the situation worse.
  It's truly a sad thing to behold.

If this is real fuck you Nintendo, so bull shit for not just making it oled. There's a $50 difference right now between the regular and oled variant which could 100% just be worked into the new switch pricing. You just know they're releasing the oled model 1-3 years after launch so people buy again.
- I have an OLED model and cringed when I saw it will have LCD. It will honestly probably feel like a downgrade for me.
  I already mostly play in handheld just because the visuals look so much better compared to my TV
  
  Then vote with your wallet. Don't buy something for more money, which have inferior features to the last generation product. This is clearly a case of monetiseing exclusivity and FOMO to sell you something which was not designed to last.
  
  Look for sales, an OLED tv is a life changer.
  
  Perfect time to buy the switch 1 OLED when it comes out
- I'm actually happy. I play my switch docked 99.9% of the time. I have brought it on exactly two trips on the six years I have owned it, and played it all of one time each trip in handheld mode. I wouldn't want to pay extra for a feature I would never use. Even if it only saves me $50, that's the price of a game right there.
  Ideally though, they would launch both on the same day at different price points.
- They probably have a lot of old LCD screens they need to get rid of.
  Honestly, I saw that and was grateful that I won't have the urge to buy it.
- Weren't there rumors that they actually meant to release a new model years ago, but between the Pandemic and the Chip Shortage, they couldn't get what they needed?
  That said, with things like the GBA SP, the DSi and the New 3DS, it isn't off-brand for Nintendo to release minor improvements along the way.
- I'm probably in the minority, but I don't mind a cheaper LCD model. The only time I see my switch screen is when I'm moving it from my living room dock to my bedroom dock. The only time I really use portables is like 8+hr flights, literally sits hidden under my TV 24/7 rest of time so I don't really need it to have a fancy screen. As long as both models have the same dock performance, I'm fine with it.
  
  The people here really don’t understand Nintendo. They want the console to be as cheap as possible to get it to the most hands as possible and then make the real money on the games. Mom and dad see the price tag isn’t too bad and pull the trigger. Everything has a cost, including an OLED screen Vs LCD (presumably IPS).
  
  Sales: 5.22 million standard Nintendo Switches, OLED 7.69 million units, 2 million Switch Lites. unit sales were down -21.3% year-on-year due to the global chip shortage, though the OLED Switch almost doubled its sales figures compared to the previous FY. 2023 - techspot
  I have a switch lite. It costs me $140CDN used (as opposed to $250-$300 for an OLED). No complaints. Just wish I could play games like RDR2, Ubisoft on it.
- The Switch has a screen? I've never really noticed mine.
- I’m pretty fed up with Nintendo at this point not planning to buy a new console
  
  I bought a Steam Deck and it's amazing. 10/10 would recommend. Never really play my Switch anymore.
- I'd bet money that the dev kits are just LCD, and there will be a huge revision between the dev kits and the finished product. Historically early dev kits look nothing like the actual console.
- The screen on a handheld really doesn't matter.
  If you cared about visuals, you wouldn't play in a handheld, in the same way that if you want to watch high quality video, you don't watch it on your phone either.
  The additional resources it needs are wasted on such a tiny screeb
- I mean definitely fuck Nintendo, but why would people fall for that?

I do not care about the screen tech one bit, I think LCD is fine for handheld if the price is low, but what I DO care about is using somewhat modern cpu/gpu so games don't constantly lag even trying to hit 30fps. That's by far my biggest complaint about the Switch 1. So if they can fix that then I'm on board! If not, I'll probably just honestly pirate everything and play it on my computer where it won't run like dog ass.
- Exactly. It’s like when you start an RPG game where you choose how many points to put into each category. If Nintendo has $300 and puts most into CPU/GPU and not as much into screen, then I’m gonna be super happy. People forget that when the OLED switch came out, the other components were cheaper to buy, making room in the budget for the OLED screen.
  When components for the Switch 2 get discounted for Nintendo to buy, then they will add an OLED screen.
- Yeah it can barely handle Breath of the Wild. Some of the new AMD APUs are really impressive, so I hope they make the jump. However for compatibility and cost I think they'll just go with an upgraded Tegra.
  
  Yeah, BotW was cutting it close, while Tears of the Kingdom really is too much for the Switch. I got real tired of the framerate taking a dive every time I used Ultrahand.
  
  It would be interesting if they made the jump to x86, but in addition to what you mentioned, I don't think they'd go for it due to the extra power and thermal requirements. I think people would bash on Nintendo if the Switch 2 was way beefier in form factor compared to the Switch 1.
  
  ARM chips have seen massive gains too. If they use a sufficiently powerful chip, then I’m sure they could easily match the performance of a PS4.
- Yeah it has to be 4KHDR 30fps and 4KSDR/QHD 60fps docked to even market its difference. That's the standard now. It's like having an SD console during the Xbox/PS3 gen. So it needs a proper APU to be able to keep every game stable or have the new dock have an eGPU.

It's not going to be the Switch U?
- I heard that they've named it the "SwitchCube Advance SP 3DS"
  
  Oh... not the turbo edition then. Lame.
  
  I'll still call it a Gameboy
- Wasn't supposed to be called The new Switch U deluxe?
- I'm voting for the SwIItch (or Swiitch)

Yay, rebuying all my indie games I could have gotten on Steam for half of the price just to keep playing on the go. Because that's what they'll make us do.
And paying 70 bucks for the first party games. Really can't wait!
- Steam Deck exists people. Basically replaced my Switch for everything not first party exclusive
  
  Heck, with yuzu it did replace the switch.
  I have all my switch, steam, itch.io, gog, ect...all in one console.
  
  I'm not even sure my Switch works anymore tbh - Steamdeck completely replaced it for me. The games are cheaper, run better and it's a full blown PC that can do so many things including emulation.
- Yay, rebuying all my indie games I could have gotten on Steam for half of the price just to keep playing on the go. Because that's what they'll make us do
  This is what the SteamDeck (or ASUS ROG Ally) is for my friend 😊
- Hey now, 70 is what we pay for 720p games. 4k is gonna cost you a bit more.

The improved hardware will be a colossal improvement, but what we really need is some kind of a game pass alternative. Sometimes I want to just play MK8 with the homies but I don't want to pay 60+dlc for a game i'll be playing once every 3 months
- Don't worry. Nintendo always keep up with the latest gaming trends. It just takes them an extra decade to get there...
  They're hanging on to that old business model that's served them well over the years, and I presume still does. BotW was a launch title, over 6 years old, and it's still full price even now. Even emulation being possible while the platform is still current doesn't put them off.
  Guess they'll rethink it when it stops working.
  
  It'll never stop working for the same reasons why Apple does business they way they do it. If you design your stuff a very specific way, only allow people to run software on your specific hardware, and also strictly control distribution, people will have no choice other than to spend what you're asking. And since people continue doing that, that's the reason why the new Zelda game is 70 Euro instead of 60, and why MK8 will never go on sale below 20% off

I have heard that dev kits were going out, probably the most credible rumors I've heard so far, but unless it's more like a switch 1.5, I don't think we're going to have a holiday 2024 release windows. Unless it's announced during holiday 2023 I suppose, but I can't see less than a year of marketing unless it's more of a deluxe/pro version.
- The Switch was announced in October and released in March and it was plenty of time for hype. A console with this many sales didn't need a year of hype, I think that long of a wait would do the opposite actually.
  
  Yeah Nintendo is pretty good during the modern era with buttoning everything up before previews for a short launch.
  
  Hmm, wow, looks like you're right, I thought that cycle was a lot longer. Perhaps because I end up so steepped in the rumor and leak community. Maybe then, maybe. The first time I heard the dev kit rumors was probably back in January ish? So let's say they had them for a quarter before the rumor got out, though it could obviously be a lot longer.
  That's September 2022 to November 2024 to prepare launch titles, definitely not a bad timeline at all, especially if the architecture is similar to the switch.

As opposed to the other source a couple days ago which said it will launch in March.
- And I've just made my own source which says it's already launched.

/me puts on speculation hat
They are probably getting it out now due to the battery regulations coming in, in the EU in 2027. All of the R&D is already done and its probably too late in the lifecycle to change the design to have a removable battery. They'll just do it on the next console.
- Pretty sure EU regulations allow for batteries that are internal, but reasonably user-replaceable. The Switch’s battery is one of those.

cant get your games emulated on the steamdeck if the platform is too powerful to run on the steamdeck :^)

All Nintendo needs is a game library subscription kind of thing. I don't want to pay £70 for Super Mario Wii U Switch 2 4K
- I'll rather pay once that 10 bucks a month for the next 36 months. I also like still having the game in 15 years, after the servers have been shut down, and when i wouldnt pay a monthly fee
  
  Amd then theyre stuck with a game they bought full price to play once for shits n giggles. Game passes are great for getting to try out games you might not play otherwise or would only want to play once.

Going back to LCD is shitty. If they fix joycon drift I'll forgive it.
- They won't. It's likely to up a slight hardware improvement and different size carts so you have to buy Switch 2 only games.

Yeah but.. Steam Deck.

That's my 2024 Xmas list then!

What a strange business decision, especially given their comment about wanting to convert as many switch users to the next console as possible. On one hand this makes Nintendo look incredibly greedy, not at all a good look. On the other I feel this has to be done based on user data from the Switch right? Surely they are going by the data showing OLED sales were low and more users prefer to play docked... Right? RIGHT Nintendo? Personally I just find it annoying, I picked up my switch 6 months before they announced the OLED version, and got mildly screwed out of a slightly improved experience. NOT this time though Nintendo, I'll just bloody wait. I don't consider myself a particularly unusual person either, if I'm willing to wait for the "pro" version then I imagine many others will too. Perhaps Nintendo intends to split the docked and undocked consoles, focusing more on a "docked" Switch edition that has a worse screen, and a portable Switch with a better screen etc. Sort of like the way they split the 3DS with the 2DS, then again Nintendo has done the "two console" thing for a long long time, OG Gameboy Advance and the SP, DS and DS Lite, 3DS and DS, they even did the Wii and the WiiU, Switch and Switch OLED... So I guess actually it makes perfect sense they would screw their customers for some extra moolah, sigh.
- The Switch was great because it combined the two product lines of console and handheld into one. They won't split them completely, just have one that's slightly better screen.

They should name it, Switched.
- Super Switch

Don't buy that shit, it's a tablet with closed source software in it
- Believe it or not, most of don't buy consoles to play Tux Racer.

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