Elon Musk and Far-Right German Leader Agree ‘Hitler Was a Communist’
Elon Musk and Far-Right German Leader Agree ‘Hitler Was a Communist’
cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/52214419
Corrected Title: Two fascists agree Hitler was a communist.
I gotta think of the ridiculous Simpsons clip with McBain where he said: “COMMI NAZIS” And it was funny because of how ridiculous it is to have a communist Nazi
Stupid, or liars. Remember, that is always an option.
Communists were literally one of the first groups targeted for arrest when Hitler came to power in 1933. Like 10 seconds on google.
To quote wikipedia : The first [concentration] camp was Nohra, established on 3 March 1933 in a school. The number of prisoners in 1933–1934 is difficult to determine; historian Jane Caplan estimated it at 50,000, with arrests perhaps exceeding 100,000. Eighty per cent of prisoners were members of the Communist Party of Germany and ten per cent members of the Social Democratic Party of Germany.
This obviousy proves Hitler had tens of thousands of communists imprisonned in concentration camps to hide the fact that he secretly was a communist/socialist ! /s
But then again Hitler did kill Hitler so maybe he was just playing the long game to catch Hitler off guard.
Oh, so now Stalin is a communist?
The Axis alliance between Italy Germany and Japan was literally formed as an anti-communist alliance.
Dear Leader says Hitler was a communist so he was, all of you are wrong!
Ah just like dear Winnie The Pooh, who we swear is a good communist, and China is the greatest egalitarian state.
(Ignore our billionaires and Uyghur genocide)
I was looking for this comment. It just shows Elon's lack of knowledge and the will to say anything for the sake o confirming your beliefs.
I suspect he knows, he’s just a bad faith self serving douchebag
Lost cause of the south levels of willful delusion
Is this the whole "Nazis were socialists because it's in the name" thing again? The far right love to pull this point out, ignoring the fact that as soon as he had power, Hitler had anyone remotely socialist in the Nazi party murdered so he could get on with the fascism. The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board. Anyway, it figures that Musk thinks Hitler was too left wing, since Musk thinks the whole universe is too left wing. And it's characteristic of Musk that being to the right of Hitler doesn't even give him pause.
The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board.
Sort of. Hitler didn't found the party, he joined it as a mole in order to spy on it for the military. He ended up doing a lot more than most moles, eventually taking it over and expelling the more socialist (though still racist) founders.
Hitler hated socialists and tried to change the name as soon as he took over, but was convinced to keep the name because it had become a popular brand.
Breaking: self proclaimed genius is, in fact, an idiot.
Didn't his own dad say he was... the R word?
To be fair his dad's opinion isn't one that I respect.
But yes. The man has more money than God and basically his entire family has completely disowned him, with the exception of the baby he carries around as body armor because he isn't old enough to know what that is yet.
For anyone else in the world I would hope that would be something of a wake up call.
Or a liar. Remember: in real life, people can, in fact, lie.
If Hitler is communist then the Nazi party is communist.
If the nazi party is communist then nazis and supporter of the nazi ideology are communists.
The far right is comprised majorly of nazis and supporters of nazi ideology, then the far right is communist.
The far right has Trump as a leader and have an ideology similar to their supporters, then… Trump is communist.
America, you know what to do with those commies.
Red scare, don't let me down now!
Just wait till you find out what color MAGA hats are!
Brilliant 👏
Saving for future use.
If those people could follow logical trains of thought, we wouldn't have any of these problems in the first place.
Fucking idiots. Does it mean that Trump is a communist?
"I am so far right that compared to me Hitler was a communist" FTFY Elon
Ahh so elon is now publicly declaring he doesn't know what he is talking about.
That's what he always does right?
Now? Always has been.
Don't think he's actually that stupid unfortunately, this goes deeper than that and is far more manipulative
So ... then they're both communists too?
Funniest are people quoting Goebbels who said something like that...
Like... Bruh.... You are falling for the tricks of the minister of propaganda of the Deutsches Reich of 1940 in 2025...
Oh yes. In the early 1900s Nazis waged openly violent political gang war against the communists out of love and similar views.
I know this sarcastic, but conflict between various communist parties with slightly different views have been quite common in history
Pretty big difference though, the Nazis specifically targeted "Judeo-bolshevism" and were formed specifically to combat rising Communist sympathies and organization.
Conflicts between Communist orgs usually arose from incompatible differences in principle, such as whether or not to support such and such Socialist org, and usually the fighting isn't based on extermination like it was in Nazi Germany with the Night of Long Knives.
They can agree as much as they want. They can agree to suck each other's cocks too.That doesn't change the facts. Stupid people remain stupid people.Populism remains populism Stop listening to them.
Yeah, all the comments he made about the secret agenda of European jews to spread "judeobolshevism" through communist organizations and annihilate the Aryan race were just jokes about his good friends the communists. Him and Stalin were actually best buddies.
It's telling that it needs the second sentence you wrote for me to realize you were speaking about Hitler, not Elon. I don't say he's gone of that far, but it wouldn't have supposed me at all.
Let's invade Russia and kill 15 or 20 million peasants as a prank.
I love it when folks are so stupid that they're ignorant of how stupid they are.
They are not ignorant. They know exactly what they’re doing.
The problem isn’t the Elon and co say this. It’s the middle ground people who, for the most part, are reasonable but have little education about politics, and don’t want to participate beyond soundbites.
In this case, the phrase works on two levels.
Most of these people would admit Hitler was bad. So, this reaffirms the statement Communism is bad. Even if they don’t know what Communism is.
For others, Communism is bad. This allows them to hear “We’re not like Hitler” about Elon and Co. They have no idea how bad Elon and Co may be, but at least their not commie pinkos.
The real genius of capitalists has been to persuade the electorate that there are no viable alternatives to capitalism.
McBain to base. Under attack by Commie-Nazis.
A commie-Nazie is such a weird combi-nation
So she admits that her AfD supporters also support a communist.
Read George Orwell "1984"!
Americans: "Hitler was a communist."
BuT tHe PaRtY hAs SoShUlLiSt iN iTs NaMe So It MuSt Be TrUe A nAzI wOuLdN't LiE
Americans: "Hitler wasn't all bad. Sure, he killed some people but not as many as people say. He helped save the economy and even loved animals and children"
they know this isn't true but they also know it works to say it
Consider the martyr Luigi in these troubled times.
people can agree on whatever they want to. However facts say these two are fucken morons because facts say something entirely different about hitler.
You Americans really need to do something about this clown coughluigicough
It's like defining masculinity by looking at Musk.
It's like defining a sane leader by looking at Trump
Are they the same morons that say Hitler was an atheist, despite him repeatedly quoting the Bible and the SS having "God is with us" on their uniforms? 🤔
Yes, he was opposed to Catholicism because it was a threat to the total rule of the Nazi party over every aspect of life, but he was following "German Christianism", which was a Protestant splinter group in line with Nazi ideology.
Which shows how much they don't know about history. Given that Weidel talked about rather fictious versions of schools in Germany, I'd say that she did not spend enough time to learn anything worthwhile in there.
She lives in Switzerland... So yes...
Yes because that's thing thing we care about, not that he was also a mass murdering fuckhead.
Braune Scheiße macht braune Scheiße
Why do they lie in a way that makes their hero be on the opposite side as them?
Hitler scares right wingers because he turned the colonialism that Western Europe plundered and looted the rest of the world towards Western Europe itself. Lebensraum was settler-colonial, after all. However, right wingers are fascinated by such an idea and wish to replicate it on their terms.
Amazing how they are revising history. So was Hitler good or bad? I thought they are staunchly against communism?
Edit: wait, so they are saying Hitler was bad because he was a communist and AfD is conservative and against communism? Incredible.
Not like it really matters. A lot of self proclaimed communists on the fediverse actively supported Trump, such as ML and Hexbear.
If nobody agrees what or who communism is then it gets used to describe anything and everything.
Ba dum tsss
Eh, three arrows isn't really a good source either. Being against Socialism/Communism (one of the arrows in the 3) is a big red flag for attacking claims of Nazis being Socialist. A much better source would be Blackshirts and Reds by Dr. Michael Parenti.
Here's where the arrows come from. Figures that social democrats aren't authoritarians and thus don't like tankies which the KPD very much was. Calling them, at least at that time, "against socialism" is gross libel. (Technically the SPD still hasn't abandoned socialism, at least when you look into their party programme, but new labour etc).
I guess a much bigger red flag is coming from a .ml instance and re-heating "social fascist" rhetoric against SocDems.
...can't believe I'm actually defending the traitor party but it's against tankies so meh.
Talk about misinformation: Wired purposefully didn't cite actual statement which was: “The biggest success after that terrible era in our history was to label Adolf Hitler as right and conservative. He was exactly the opposite. He wasn’t a conservative. He wasn’t a libertarian. He was a communist socialist guy,”
With the context it reads more like communist-like person, not literal communist.
But the context be damned, we hate Elon and Wired confirms our bias so we eat misinformation like it's a gospel written by God himself
You're overreacting too far the other way. Sure they're not saying he was a duck, they're saying he was a goose, but for many practical purposes, those two things are the same.
Furthermore, they said what they said in the way that they said it to foment precisely this sort of confusion (or because they're equally confused. Take your pick.). Did they go on to explicitly say "not an actual communist, but a bit like one"?
