Would you do Onlyfans if needed the money?
Would you do Onlyfans if needed the money?
Asking for a friend? It’s tough out here. No face shots.
Would you do Onlyfans if needed the money?
Asking for a friend? It’s tough out here. No face shots.
No and not for the reason you'd expect:
To open an account, OnlyFans requires you to do social media and prove that your social media accounts are yours, and of course they require you to hand over your real identity with your real ID card or passport and a selfie.
This is beyond dystopian. You have to be suicidal from a privacy standpoint to do OnlyFans.
That's actually fucking ridiculous. But I guess if you're willing to put your asshole and face together on the Internet, you're probably not to concerned about these extra steps.
You miss the point.
What if you want to have a Facebook with the name "Joe Smith" and an OnlyFans with the name "Queen Georgina"? Even if your OnlyFans shows your face - which isn't a requirement by the way - it's not your real name. And you may not want to put your face or your real name on your Facebook at all, and keep the two completely separate.
OnlyFans basically destroy the separation between your accounts and links both with your real identity, your real government-issued ID number or SSN. And they collaborate very closely with Facebook in case you didn't know. I know that because I asked them.
As for asshole pictures, as far as I know, asshole recognition technology isn't as developed as facial recognition technology yet.
Im going to assume OnlyFans doesn't do that because they want to. They'd likely be harassed by government if they didn't.
Pornhub had to remove all unverified videos (which was most of their videos) and now anyone who uploads must follow similar rules that OnlyFans has. Pornhub posted an announcement saying they reported 118 instances of child abuse materials while Facebook reported 84,000,000 but that somehow they're the ones being threatened to be shutdown unless they implement more rules.
Im going to assume OnlyFans doesn’t do that because they want to. They’d likely be harassed by government if they didn’t.
Only partially.
They don't legally have to require you to do social media. All they're legally required to do is to verify that you're a consenting adult. In that respect, I get that they require a form of ID and a photo.
But the social media stuff is something they pretend to require to add an extra layer of legitimacy to your account, and make extra-sure you're not a fraud. It's of course complete bullshit. They only do this to collect data.
And don't think for a second you can open an empty Facebook account and tell them "Here's my social media account": they want an old account with lots of real activity. And only certain types social media accounts are accepted. In fact, they're very heavily biased towards you having a Facebook account, and it's a lot more difficult to validate your OnlyFans account with anything other than a Facebook account.
They're in cahoots with Facebook on the social media verification scam. I believe a good portion of their revenue stream is deanonymizing sex workers and selling their data.
I think it has to do with women being trafficked into cam service.
If I remember correctly the pressure came from credit card companies and not any government.
It's to keep kids off the website and even with all that, there's already been cases. I think they dont do enough tbh.
Fortunately some places have zero knowledge proofs where you can prove you're of age without giving your identity
They need all that to be able to give you your money.
It's how you get paid.
They don't need to know under which name I access Facebook to pay me.
I'd sell a lot more than that for riches.
You’ve probably provided ID at every job you’ve ever had. This is to establish legal residency and that you are of working age. I know OF is not a 9 to 5 job but money is exchanged and I don’t see why this is so dystopian, especially given the extra sensitivity around age.
I have no issue with providing ID. I take issue with them requiring me to provide social media credentials. If you don't do social media - and especially if you don't do Facebook in particular - no OnlyFans for you.
Do you find this normal?
I don't.
This guy raging that a media/porn publishing company verifies it's models 🤣
I mean in the history of porn nobody, and I mean nobody has ever been abused.
As a dude no, just because I don't think that I would make enough to justify it.
Quick! Everybody pay this man for dick pics! He needs a self esteme boost!
Please don't, I trust that there are people who would appreciate them but just not enough to pay bills.
It's actually extremely hard to earn money with OnlyFans. You're not the first one to get the idea. There's massive competition and if you're not seriously willing to do a lot of marketing (which basically means going on social media and messaging thirsty dudes/people and being flirty with them), you're only going to earn peanuts if anything at all.
Unless you're really top 0.01% beautiful, but yeah as you see that's unlikely.
It's basically as much work as any other job, so yeah, might as well do any other job.
I feel like the top 5 - 10% could probably make money, not just the top .01
I meant you wouldn't have to work as hard as normal jobs if you are top 0.01% beautiful, not that you can't make money unless you are. If you aren't top 0.01%, you'll have to do lots of work to make money.
If I thought I could actually make even $5 on OnlyFans, I would have one right now. Ain't nobody wants to see a 40 year old, out of shape, awkward geek dude jack off or show his butthole.
And if you tell me you actually would: gimme $5 and I will.
I'm not married anymore, so I don't have anyone to compete against either. 🤷🏻♂️
I mean, there's market. The biggest problem is marketing yourself to people who would pay. Most people don't want to pay for porn unfortunately (but they sure want it, so they use leaks or piracy). Also, payment processors for adult content have very high fees.
Selling yourself is not an easy job. If you can, then sure, go for it. But for each person making thousands there are thousands of people making pennies.
No one wants to see my hemorrhoids.
This is the Internet; there are at least 7 people that want to see them.
Yeah, butt are they desperate and loaded?
Do you want to see my hemorrhoids?
Doctors do. Then they want to charge you lots of money for having seen them.
Why don't they call them assteroids?
I would do OnlyFans just for fun if i was female and or attractive
Already have. If you want to limit the exposure to e.g. not damage any future career opportunities then just make it expensive. I did it for £12.99 a month, no free page, no PPV, no RP etc.
Converted from existing audience of older men I had on YT (3k subs back then), minimal marketing, mostly 1-2 GIFs a week spammed to various subs for it that didn't have too much effect (ig i was being downvoted by bots/other women?) and had about 5-6 users total across a few months so I ended up having close to ~£100 total which was good groceries money (pre the mid-2022 price inflation) for the month or so I was out of a job, not enough to live on on its own but a good bonus, meant I could eat something other than bread and beans once in a while.
Fwiw it was fun and a great ego boost ngl, kinda almost makes me wanna do it again even though I def don't have to.
That’s how my friend is about this. She wants feel attractive and make some extra change at the same time.
People underestimate how much work is involved with anything involving selling online content. This isn't just Only fans.
But if it's an hour of work to make $100, why wouldn't I?
There are people giving plasma for money.
There are people jacking off animals for money.
There are people who spend hours scamming old people for money.
Time is a investment though. Unfortunately $100 a hour is not the best use of my time. But maybe it is for you and your situation.
Curious what you do that 100/hr isn't a good use of time, because that sounds like something I'd like to learn about.
I'm a programmer and I make a pretty decent salary, enough to support my family and weather any emergencies.
The free time I have, I would do these in this order:
Notice that trying to make MORE money is at the bottom for me.
And if you ARE money driven, working hourly isn't how most people became rich. They usually win the lottery by doing a hobby that ended up paying dividends. Like building a app and getting bought out, or collecting Pokemon cards or something.
Sure. Only problem is nobody would pay to see me naked.
As a cornfed brick-shithouse built Midwestern hairy dude in my late-30s, I'd do it right now if there were a market for chubby hairy dudes but I know better and I'd rather not embarrass myself.
There's a kink for everything. It may not be a large base, but I'll bet it's there.
The fact that it's a niche interest means that people will pay more for it... And trust me... People LOVEE late 30s chubby hairy dudes
If I knew I was going to make some money? Sure. But I hear it's super difficult since so many people do the same. But if you think you have a gimmick, or are super attractive, you could make a but of change.
You really need to put in a lot of effort to market yourself. Being attractive helps, but it's not all.
That's a good point. It's not like we're lacking attractive people on the internet.
If I was attractive, yes.
Boi ain't nobody paying for mine
Yeah, I need something like an OnlyFoes where people pay to inflict my content on someone they didn't like.
Ahh yes sexual harassment for hire. Great idea. Maybe we should have an MMA experience we can order for our foes too.
I pay you to stay off!
/s
Sure, but I don’t have anything to offer.
I have a very liberated sexuality, girls, boys, sometimes among consenting strangers. OF could be a logical extension if I needed money.
However , two things stand in the way: first, I have a job that gives me social recognition and financial stability, and it wouldn't be compatible with the social stigma of sex work.
The other problem is all the work that goes into OF, like on YT channels ot Twitch: communicating on social networks, managing a community, editing, finding collaborations. I don't know how to do it and I don't think I'd like it.
I don't think I could make money on onlyfans.
I would if there was a market for pudgy balding men in their 40's
I've thought about it, but I'm willing to bet that the demand for a thirty something tran is pretty low
You might be surprised.
If the creeps that message me on Grindr are anything to go by, you’d def be surprised. I’ve thought about it, ngl.
There is a huge market for you!
U would be suprised
Yes, especially with no face shots. That being said, I think it's brutally competitive these days. You are probably better off checking the beer money reddit sub if you are having trouble making ends meet and can't find a proper job.
Would fans pay to watch a short, fat guy write code while wearing nothing but his underwear (and sweat pants, and a slightly over-sized t-shirt)?
They might, actually. I know of some people that stream software development to Twitch
Switch to under sized t, and you're on your way
What's the market for fat old dudes like?
Pretty good, actually. Assuming that you can brand it the right way.
For example, if you're okay catering to gay men and can position yourself as a confident top with a dad-bod, there is a market for you.
I love how lemmy just knows these things.
I mean im an older dude so my guess is I could not make much money. Oh and its not like im in great shape or anything.
I’d need to get in better shape first. As it turns out my new workout shoes will be here tomorrow. Maybe the universe is telling me to turn myself out?
My friend has on Only Fans and she doesn’t get very much money. She’d make more waiting (food service)
Well the bigger question is, would you buy it? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Jokes aside... Not attractive enough. Even if I'm attractive, OF creators are quite competitive as it's kind of a "winner takes all" market. So probably not worth it... Besides, for conventionally attractive people shouldn't there be easier ways to make money off looks? For example landing a modeling gig that has a more steady pay or something like that
Only the top percentage make good money. Doubt it will earn more than a minimum wage job unless you do some weird fetish.
The percentage seems to be padded out by inactive accounts or something, even the worst only fans profiles I've seen are showing 'top 1%' banners
Many of the inactive accounts will be people who signed up and started, but made no or too little money, so abandoned the idea. They're still worth counting when working out how likely a new person will be to make money. Other inactive accounts will be bots or catfish where there was never any intention to make money the way people expect the site to be used, so you can still discount a lot of them, but it's not all of them.
I am doing it but not on OnlyFans and not for money. I'd be more than happy to monetize it if it was that simple but I'm a guy making quite niche content so I'll stick with the crowd of few thousand Twitter users following me.
I have no problem with it, but it sounds like an exhausting way of making money.
I have a bit of an exhibitionist kink. If I thought I could make more money then I currently do, I totally would.
Conceptually, yeah, but it seems like a huge hassle to cultivate a following and maintain it.
No. I'll probably try to set up my own website.
I'd do that just for fun, but I don't mind getting paid for that either. The main reason I haven't yet is simply because I've been busy doing other things. But it is on my list of fun activities to try out
I wouldn't even think twice.
I'd probably use Fansly instead of OF, but yeah, absolutely. (Assuming that I had the drive to actually do the marketing legwork and had something to offer that was actually in demand, that is)
why fansly?
Boring reasons mostly.
Im told they offer better options for tiered monetization and the UI is supposedly way better. They also do a better job of promoting smaller creators.
Plus, they never threatened to oust their adult content creators because their payment processor asked them to.
If I thought I would actually make money? Sure. But most people that do OF aren't really making more than pocket change.
I don't think most people would be interested in paying for first-person shooting competition video--although maybe they would if I had the $8k or so for a VR camera so that it could be immersive--and most people don't have a huge interest in rope tops. So, eh.
If you don't enjoy it as a hobby, you won't enjoy it as a business.
Do you enjoy taking nudes for fun? Go for it. If not, OF would be the worst "job" you've ever had, being just below roaming in train tracks looking for pennies.
Amazon hires anyone hiring.amazon.com
Most people don't enjoy their hobbies anymore when they turn it into a business.
Benefits
Health benefits, parental leave, paid time off, holiday overtime, employee discounts, and more.
It's insane that those things have to be listed in a so-called developed country (except employee discounts, that's an actual benefit)
I will do even for free, I just want someone who can setup everythign and I act as a model lol
Its not that much work, i managed my exs snap and tinder before onlyfans was a thing and got ridiculous amounts of money. It was quiet sad.
I'm a photographer who needs a model. If you're nearby and serious, let's talk.
I volunteer as tribute
If I was very desperate and my current job no longer sufficed, sure I'd hop on OnlyFans or FeetFinder and give it a go. The problem I have is more one of laziness. I like showing off my body, and spend a good amount of time cultivating parts like my ass and thighs to look attractive. The limiting factor is that I don't have anyone to hold a camera. It's a lot of fun to model, it's a lot less fun to setup a camera/mic, create a scene, and actually take 30-40 pictures/30 sec vid clips. If I had to do it for survival, I could, but I prefer just sending simple thirst traps to fwb.
Ok if for some reason, let's say I like, went viral for wearing a speedo on a dare, and suddenly the whole internet is like "yo wheres his OF at?"
Absolutely. It'd be a quick few fucking million dollars.
But like, as a nearly 40 year old dude who has no general recognition? I would earn $0. There are tons of penises to look at just like mine out there for free.
No, I would rather do a side job than selling my nude body - even if I was to keep it as anonymous as possible. I feel very strongly about unauthorized people seeing my private parts - and by unauthorized I mean anyone I don't have a sexual affection for.
And I would be ashamed even more if friends, colleagues or family got a hold of my OF and somehow figured out it was me (for example super drunk me could easily leak myself for whatever stupid reason).
I am aware that I would likely have a fanbase as I am a slim short king in my early 20s but I am making enough with my job and the regular IT stuff my friends and family come up with (building & upgrading PCs, fixing software & hardware issues, helping with privacy issues, selfhosting and smart home tech... the standard stuff) and I feel that I would make less or have less relaxed quality time if I was to do OnlyFans.
As for your friend. If they have any hobby they could make a side job (like I am doing with IT service) I would do that before. I got a creative artist friend who makes artworks and puts them on Etsy and another one does music & patreon and keep OnlyFans as the nuclear option.
I’m not the right demographic to make money doing that.
Honestly no. It doesn’t align with my values.
I suppose there is some level of poverty I would consider becoming a sex worker for, but it would be an absolute last resort.
Would if I could. Nobody is gonna send me money for nudes.
They ought to pay the models better too.
If I didn't already have crippling self-image issues, I'd have seriously considered it.
Maybe foot stuff. I got weird feet
Yes, but I would blame capitalism for forcing me.
Many years ago I used to stream to a cam site. I walked passed someone who pointed me out to his friend and said he saw me and where online he saw me. It wasn't a good feeling and while some people may stream for a kink I did it solely for money and that interaction brought about all kinds of feelings. And I still worry now that I will be recognised and even have it publicised. But if I fell on hard times I might do it again while opting to hide my face.
I wouldn't recommend it for others, it looms especially if opting to show face.
how much money, and for what kind of content?
Well, given that it's you, I'm thinking something stinky.
Have you heard of......cake farts?
i'm ashamed to say that i have
and the worst part of the experience was the fucking delicious looking cakes were ruined
No, but more because I don't think there's a lot of demand for what I could offer and I'm not charismatic enough to get by with my personality. If I thought I could make enough money to be worthwhile though, sure.