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Germany's far-right AfD welcomes Musk backing

www.dw.com German politicians criticize Musk backing for far-right AfD – DW – 12/20/2024

After Elon Musk posted his support for Germany's far-right AfD, the party's leader Alice Weidel expressed her gratitude. Other German lawmakers have criticized "interference" in the country's upcoming federal elections.

Summary

Elon Musk expressed support for Germany’s far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party on X, stating “Only the AfD can save Germany.”

Party leader Alice Weidel welcomed his endorsement, urging followers to review her criticisms of German politics.

The AfD, polling at 19% ahead of February’s federal election, is officially under scrutiny as an extremist group by German authorities.

Musk has previously questioned the party’s “far-right” label. Controversy surrounds the AfD, including links to a meeting discussing deportation of migrants.

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Germany's far-right AfD welcomes Musk backing

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Damn, so he’s just going to buy every government? I guess the first one was so cheap, he figures he can afford at least four or five more.
- I miss when rich guys just bought sports teams
  
  Or built libraries
  
  I miss when they had their heads chopped off.
- Didn't his estimated wealth nearly double in the past couple years? He's got enough money to buy all the governments at this point
  
  Buy government, get money from government, buy another government - rinse and repeat.
  
  Doubled in the past month. ~$220 Billion to $440 Billion or something.
  
  Basically just one of those idle clicker games at this point...
- Fortunately, AfD is not in the government and possibly never will be
  
  They have been getting traction consistently and German politics moved significantly to the right over the past years. Now supposedly progressive parties like the social democrats and greens spout stuff that five years ago was exclusive to the AfD and maybe the fringes of the Bavarian CSU.
  Even if they don't govern they get their way more and more, which helps normalising their positions more and more, which gives them more and more votes.
  
  They had 93 seats in the German parliament as of 2017 and are now the second most popular party as of a 2023 poll.
  I just got those numbers from a DDG search two minutes ago. Where did you get your information?
- He's . . . he's a CEO isnt' he?
  
  Didn’t you hear? He’s the new president of America, just elected by the people, with his secretary Trump by his side
- People have a real problem grasping the wealth of 500 Billion dollars. At the Median US household income it would take 12 years to make a million dollars; 1,200 years to make a hundred million dollars; 12,000 years to make a billion dollars; and 1.2 million years to make a 100 billion dollars.
  His wealth is essentially limitless. It is that of a moderate sized country like Norway or Israel. When he can have an effect with 100 million dollars he could influence 5,000 elections with 500 billion dollars. And that's not even talking about his investments in social media, PR cult of personality, and straight up vote buying in broad daylight.
  I sincerely hope he and X end up banned from Europe, with a warrant out for his arrest in relation for doing this. Because America has proven unable to stop him. Another country might though if they come down hard on anyone accepting his money and as hard as they can on him without using their military.
- Cheap? More like insanely profitable. It's like any good business venture: you use your successes to expand.

So, has Musk straight up admitted to being a white supremacist or has he only dropped anvil-sized hints so far?
- I mean this was pretty blatant:
  
  Do you have a link?

Elon: "Why are they considered far-right? They don't look far-right to me!"
Also Elon: ⬅️-----------------------------🙋➡️
- It's pretty much comes down to
  Do they support trans people and trans rights?
  Yes: Woke mind virus.
  No: TAKE MY MONEY!
  That's why he's in right wing politics now, he's said as much. His trans daughter, who he dead names, was "stolen" from him.
  
  I highly doubt that he ever had a real connection to his children in the first place.
- As a believer in Horseshoe Theory (Just hang around a tankie long enough, you will too)
  I'm really hoping these people somehow wrap around to being left.... I mean that won't happen because the Horseshoe only bends one way, but damn.
  
  Nationalists sometimes wrap around to left.

Bruh.
Is Germany gonna do the "Defensive" part of Defensive Democracy?
(Please ban AfD already)
- Realistically, it's not gonna happen. There's too much cowardice in our political system for that.
  
  I feel like I remember hearing when AfD was getting less than the 5% (or whatever it is) minimum to be granted proportional seats. I knew they had grown in popularity, but they're at 19% now. 19???!
  They should have already banned them.
  Meine Oma war 11 am Kriegsende, und hat mir natürlich viel von dir Geschichte persönlich erzählt.
  For fucking shame. Honestly.
  Makes me quite sad :( as an German Australian. And and as any human who's been to school in the last 40 years.
  When will humanity learn that capitalism is the problem, not the foreigners...?
- I hear there are 3 or for 4 candidates for chancellor now one is a lesbian Nazi removed living in Switzerland so no, no wehrhafte Demokratie.
  All candidates are not well liked in terms of approval ratings so hooray 2025.
- AfD is cheering while the SPD's thugs attack and arrest Jews calling for an end to Israeli terrorism.
  Not lookin' good

Don't the conservative bobbleheads talk about evil globalist conspiracies? Like, I found it right here for you guys! It was right in front of you the whole time!
- In case you are unaware, when a racist says “globalist” they are not talking about worldwide events, the word “globalist” is a direct replacement for the word “Jew [derogatory]”.
  
  Huh, guess I missed that dog whistle. I thought it was just the opposite of a "nationalist", people who want to create a new world order and all that.
  I guess I'm not surprised they think it's the Jewish people doing that, but didn't think it was exclusive to them.

The rest of the world might need to bring the US to heel. We're exporting hate and racism as a means to build fascist states around the world. Our rich are so rich and protected by the US military that they are becoming untethered from all remaining constraints about law and sovereignty for other countries.
Here be dragons.
- Yeah it’s weird because you can both see Russia as an exporter of hate, but the US is on it too. I guess before late everyone will be on it.

Musk has previously questioned the party’s “far-right” label.
Shut up Musk. Your countries political center (if it existed) would count as conservative in Germany.
- Our political center is far right anywhere else. Democrats are right-leaning centrists and Republicans are literal Wolfenstein Nazis
  
  Hey now dont insult the Nazis in Wolfenstein, they at least hated the Klan. Also at least one cared about his mecha dog, Hitler also shot an Arizonan which is the correct response.

@MicroWave
He is just pissed because a Union just sued his Tesla Gigafactory in Grünheide, so he goes crying to the ones most likely to make the boo boo go away if given power.

As if I needed any more reasons to hate that fucker...

on the same day that an anti islam afd supporter committed a terrorist attack on a christmas market even
elon sure can pick them
- In case someone needs to read the story:
  https://www.dw.com/en/magdeburg-christmas-market-car-ramming-death-toll-rises-to-4/live-71129061
  An anti-islam, ex-muslim, pro-afd, rams a car into christmas market killing atleast 4 people so far.
  
  I know far-right extremists aren't the sharpest bunch or the most well-adjusted but I'm trying and failing to understand the reasoning behind ramming a christmass market as an anti-Islam action.
  
  The site doesnt load for me but afaik it was a 50 year old doctor from saudi arabia that committed the attack. Allegedly, he was unhappy with the treatment oft refugees.
  Also, it would make little sense for someone whos pro-afd to attack a Christmas market

Are we allowed to discuss the many many benefits that society might receive if Elon Musk were in fact assassinated?
- I’d be, with extremely little resistance, willing to listen to your argument. Tread heavily if you dare.
- Sure would be nice if he just dropped dead of natural causes.

Foreigners need to stay out of politics. Musk especially included.
- Foreigners don't have political rights by definition. This is something that should be enforced to the last consequences.

Meanwhile Tesla sales are down in Europe 28% despite an increase in overall EV sales.
- For the month maybe, but its possible imports are gonna be higher in December for various shipping reasons. Monthly numbers aren't always good indicators and have always been used to attack Tesla even when they were growing, not to say it might not be a preview of whats to come either. It's around 15% YTD.
  
  Tesla Europe sales also down 14% year-to-date.

Elon truly is the embodiment of cancer wow. First Nigel farage and now AfD.

So Musk really is just going full Bond-esk super villain with world domination right? That's what this is? He doesn't have to win any election so long as he can just buy every government, which he can then ensure he owns all the money, to buy more...
- See, this is why I don't mind George Soros, a billionaire, is funding left wing causes. Too much of the rich class is disproportionately funding the right. Fight fire with fire.

One of their supports just murdered 2 and insured 60 when he drove his car into a Christmas market...

Nazis welcoming another Nazi.

Did people also saw Hitler like that before he got in power?
"Oh look that bozo doing shit again" and then bam, the bozo is the head of state?
- I mean, have you ever really looked at him without the hindsight knowledge of what nazi germany would be like? he's so fucking lame.
  
  Yeah exactly
- Maybe? He did try to take power once, failed, went to prison for like a year and then got right back to it.
- People didn't think of him in that light till WW2 started.
  Before that he was actually beloved by most, so much so that when he annexed Poland, the rest of Europe and America basically went "Aww shucks"
- Unfortunately I'm fairly sure that particular monster actually had some sense of charisma and strength-projection. I'm sure people still saw through it, but couldn't say much because he was considered a "world leader" with the rest of em.
  This, of course, was before the grand spectacle that was reality television, so now our megalomaniacal monsters simply have to generate interesting headlines and do bozo nonsense to attempt world takeover.
  I'm legit surprised MrBeast or a Kardashian hasn't attempted to buy rulership over a smaller country at this point. You know, just for the views.
  
  Well that is the thing, musk just did and not a smaller county.

Say goodbye to western style democracies! Say hello to Russia style pseudo-democracies!
- Depends how western. For americans Russia is on the west.

In semi-related news, the defences around the German Constitutional Court were just reinforced.

That's low. Even for AfD.
- It's not surprising though. From what I've seen they are just Red Hats Deutschland Edition. Just need some altered merch and bam, Deutschlun'! MDWG!

He seems to not mind if someone would cut a swastika into his forehead.

Can't say that I'm surprised. Both are pro-RuSSian trolls and just absolute morons in general, but it's still pretty interesting, because the AfD absolutely hates EVs and prefers RuSSian oil imports. I honestly think that Musk just isn't aware of their EV politics, and it makes all of this so much funnier 😂
- Elon's actually come out against EV subsidies. It seems counter intuitive until you realize he's so detached from any one product that the power he's derived from his wealth is more important now.
  
  At this point it's not about the money, it's about ~~THE METS BABY!~~
  It's about feeling like he's in charge. At this point he's so drunk on attention and power that he'd order a nuclear strike on his own daddy's Emerald Mines if he thought it'd make him look like a big man.
  
  Tesla sells their EVs as technical avantgarde and elitist sports cars. When EVs become commonplace, they'll face serious competition. People won't be content with their mediocre build quality and terrible ergonomics any longer. Musk countering EV subsidies is deeply based in reality.

Both want politics for the rich, but tell you that they act in your favor.

No. Just no. Enough internet for today.

Arsch auf Eimer
- Ist Elon Arsch oder Eimer oder beides?
  
  Austauschbar

If Germany decided to pull an Israel on him, I wouldn't protest the German embassy.
- I would prefer a Russian.
  We dont want his innocent family to all be bombed out of existence. Just Musk falling out of a window would be great.

Lock them up.

Is that he has those Black Sun ghouls following him everywhere now?

No, no, no, no, no, no!

Over/under on months before spacex is manufacturing missles to arm these groups?

Moderator warning: calling for Elon Musk or anyone else to be assassinated is a violation of Lemmy.world ToS.
- calling for Elon Musk or anyone else to be assassinated
  Yeah but we can discuss it without saying it should happen, right? (not trying to be a dick about this, honestly)
  
  Yes. That is fine. There's a difference between saying "this sort of thing could lead to Elon being killed" and "Elon deserves a bullet in the head." The issue is with the latter, which has been a big problem in this thread. It is not legal to do that in the Netherlands, where the server is based.
- There was a time where the US were shooting Nazis instead of putting them in charge. Is it really bad to wish those times came back?
- Elon Musk should be shot in the face.
- So it begins... Reddit 2.0
  
  Just hop to another instance that doesn't have the same difficulties as .world. Reddit 2.0 on Lemmy requires us to be compliant.

Well he is not wrong, compared to the USA they are not far right.
- They are so far right that the already far right French Le Pen kicked them out of the EU coalition for being too far right.
- Oh, they are.
- Many of them are neo-nazis and/or right-wing extremists. A comparison with the GOP is difficult but I'd say they're similar in their hatred of non-white people and their disdain for liberal democracy.
- "The Holocaust was nothing but a minor blemish on the glorious millenia of German history."
  AfD party leader
  Not far right at all.
- Fuck Off, He is far right even in the US.
  
  Not sure why to fuck off, I assumed that the US is far more right in comparison. You know, openly wanting to deport everyone etc.

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