Wait, my body's own heat is enough? Always has been.

Same here.

But there is middle-ground here. My wife came from a very temperate country. She wants the thermostat set at like, 26.

I'd be happy to have it at 17 and wear sleeves indoors. 9 degrees thermostat difference makes a hell of a dent in the utility bill.

Don't be lazy. You can type with your toes.

I think this meme is mocking the people that turn their house up to 72°F instead of just leaving it at 60°F and wearing a hoodie. The difference in price is quite extreme.

Damn. It's only 4 degrees for me, but my room still gets cold if I don't have the heater on max because some moron decided that an entire fucking wall in my room has to be window.

THAT'S VERY COLD

My flat grows mold if I leave it under 18C for too long and my landlord doesn't care 🥴

Yeah how else will ChatGPT tell you how to distribute (a^{2 +b}2)(c^2+d2)? /s

I'm sorry, me heaters are set to 16°C 😢
In my defence they don't go any lower than that for some reason

True, but also let's not just let ourself dash toward suicide. Society is not meant to sustain nudism in the middle of winter 24/7.

Both uses are a problem, one is just more unnecessary than the other.

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Okay, you can heat your house but only to 50 degrees.

Yeah, nah, I'm on the side of the government paying for utilities. Human right to electricity. Figure out a system to prevent overuse, but everyone deserves to have heating and cooling when needed.

That said, definitely wear a sweater in the winter if you can. Acclimate to the season and you'll hate going outside a lot less, and need less heating in the winter. I typically don't heat most of my home in the winter (I don't have central heating). I just use a space heater in whatever room I'm in, and move it to the next room with me, and wear warm clothes. I'm in Tennessee, which routinely gets well below freezing in the winter. Not ideal, but it works

Pets? One of my cats found a nice solution for that: recruit some dumb human as her heating pillow. (The "dumb human" is me, by the way.) And when I'm not on the bed she sleeps inside a blanket folded in the shape of a pocket.

...although winter here rarely goes below 0°C, subtropical region and all that shit. If I was a bit souther I'd probably have some heaters in the bedrooms, and that's it - there's no reason to heat the whole house.

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God, I recall when we lost power for a week in the middle of a freeze, it was so cold that my multiple blankets weren't enough to keep me warm when trying to sleep. I had to break out a nasty comforter that I've got that doesn't breathe at all and gets real sweaty during normal weather. Worked well to lock in the heat.

It hit -8 C last week where I am, still a pleasant 20 C inside without having turned the heat on.

I probably get a lot of free heat from my neighbours apartments though, I would guess.

As long as it's bearable with additional layers on, I'm going to lean towards doing that, as cool bedrooms make for amazing sleep quality.

If I'm spending 10 minutes walking between buildings and then an hour sitting in them I'd rather be comfortable for the longer amount of time.

:(

Gets ya from point A to point B.

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There was the one guy that always walked to class in strappy sandals, a short sleeved shirt, and shorts. No matter how cold it was outside, in New England, there he was.

I live in Canada and tbh I'm with the Chad on this.

Not saying "turn off your furnace" but energy use (and cost) baloons exponentially based on how hot you have your thermostat set at. Lower your thermostat to the point where wearing a sweater indoors is enough and save money. It's not even just about the money, it'sresponsible energy usage.

And I'd be happy to subsidize the first X GJ/mo to help people keep themselves from freezing, but if people want their apartment to be the tropics that's gotta be on their dime.

Same with electricity. I'll subsidize keeping your lights on but I'm not paying you to mine crypto.

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Sweater wont keep you alive

Wait till you hear about the latest tech: two sweaters!

To be fair, you could wear winter gear 24/7. I lived like that for a bit. The real reasons we need heating are structural decay and pets. Pipes burst below 55 and pets don't do well below 65.

There are real reasons to heat your house besides just wanting to be warm.

I'm in the UK and have managed to get this far this year using just jumpers and the heat generated from folding at home on a couple PCs.

Nearly caved last week when temps dropped to around 0 but then i found my slippers

Just set your thermostat to 60 instead of 70

I walked to school uphill in the snow BOOOOTTHH WAAAYYYSSSS.

Ok cranky grandpa, go sit back by your space heater.

I live in Northern mn where it goes like -40f I don’t wear more then two sweatshirts all of winter I don’t do outside activities in the cold tho

Yeah, good luck with only a sweater in Newport VT.

This is a great way to mess with the self appointments lords of the thermostat as they caw their favorite sayings like "Wear a sweater" and "turn the lights out when you leave the room".

It's the nuclear age grandpa. I'm cranking my thermo to 23. Take your shirt off if you're warm.

I can confirm that this works. Outside temperatures are right around freezing right now. Indoors, we're still hovering at around 23C and we have yet to turn on any heating. I wouldn't call this unethical though. Homes are built this way by design so that you share the heating.

my apartment is like this and it heats up to like 80°F without any thermostat setting even when it's below freezing outside

or... just set the heat only for 55 if the pipes are your only concern. You'll still save a lot of money on heating, and you won't have to deal with your stuff getting flooded.

How is this unethical? I live in those conditions and if I turn my heat on I have to walk around naked, the heat from the neighbours is enough

A smart thermostat would likely have record of the set and actual temperatures.

good luck finding an apartment that A) will let you install a smart thermostat B) a camera and C) finding an apartment with a 3 pipe climate system as its usually 2 so you dont get to control if its heat or cooling year round.

Cold one or hot one?

Gloves wear big ass gloves use gloves that make your hands look like Mii character hands big ass spheres attached to the ends of your arms zero functionality just big ol gloves

The older I have gotten, the more true that has been for me. I'm in an enclosed room with its own electric heater and it's plenty warm in here because I'm comfortable in a T-shirt, but my fingers have been like ice since I woke up well over an hour ago and they aren't getting warmer.

Meh I just deal with the purple arms

I'm a very chilly person who loses dexterity fast. I find some quick exercises warm me up pretty well.

But yeah you've got to heat your space to a minimum of comfort

Fingerless wool gloves.

7200' here, I'll keep my furnace as well. I usually only keep it at 62°, unless I want a $600 gas bill. But, that the tradeoff of having mild awesome summers.

I mean, I'm in Moscow and it's barely below 0 degC.

But - yes.

My old housemates were the opposite lol. We tried saving every penny on heating costs. In the winter, we taped the windows over with cardboard for better insulation (they are old single-pane windows), and fashioned an automatic door closer from an elastic cord to keep the door into the living room shut (our "warm zone"). Instead of using gas heating, we mined ETH with our gaming PC's (this was before ethereum went proof-of-stake). Between the three of us, the total energy output was close to 2kW, so totally viable for keeping the living room warm. Pretty sure we ended up earning money from heating the house lol.

Nothing wrong with wood as a construction material. The key factor is the insulation.

looks around at countless houses made from wood I guess northern Sweden, which gets below -30°c every year, lost its European status.

This is.. Uninformed.

You do realize that there's insulation in those walls right. That's the whole point of wood frame construction; you stuff the gaps between studs full of several inches of insulation. Besides, most of a homes heat loss isn't through the walls anyways. It's through any openings in those walls (windows, doors, etc) and through the roof.

Earthquakes would say otherwise for at least part of the US. Also, without full-time mechanical ventilation, that would be misery in a lot of the US. The climate is also different to some places in Europe and varies hugely on US region

Such ignorant shit

./confidentlyincorrect

nobody can afford that here lol

It does not have to be brick and mortar. The house with the best insulation I know is made of wood and straw bales.

Wood is a better insulator than brick actually. Sitting outside in the winter on a wooden bench would feel warmer than on one made of brick even if they are at the same temperature. A log cabin without insulation is better insulated than a brick building without insulation. Problem is that US homes aren’t log buildings but stick frames boarded up with cheap chipboard.

Wearing a sweater still makes sense there. To spend less energy.

But in that case it'll be more a matter of heat isolation. Though when such a low temperature exists on the outside consistently, air humidity drops and it sucks heat less. I think it works this way, but that's pure intuition or something, my physics knowledge sucks definitely.

I doubt they could pass the Turing test.

Build your house better

Igloo effect

You’re supposed to put the sweater on the newborn and not just yourself in this scenario

I won't go into detail because it's personal and a bit gross, but adding on layers doesn't always work for me due to a disability. I just become even more uncomfortable, and my extremities are still in pain...

And risk burning yourself when the rubber wears out in 3 years and bursts?

Nah, get yourself one of those oat-filled microwavable teddies. Does the same job but with less risk of severe burns and doesn't need replaced every few years.