Half of Young Norwegians Say Online Piracy Is an Acceptable Way to Save Money

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A new survey from Norway reveals that 50% of young people under 30 believe that pirating content is an acceptable way to save money.

A new survey from Norway reveals that 50% of young people under 30 believe that pirating content is an acceptable way to save money. The survey, conducted by Ipsos, highlights that the high cost of streaming services is a key driver behind this attitude. Links between piracy and organized crime or malware, appear to be of less concern.

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Well, since I don't own what I buy, I don't see how pirating is anything other than getting something from a cheaper distributor.
After all, how can I steal something that can't be owned?
- You see, streaming is a service and you choosing to not use their service is... uhmm... theft!
  
  hahaha such entitlement from them, right?
- Yeah, I'm just watching/playing the content, I'm fine doing that without the license, which is the paid part anyway, right?

People are being exploited and screwed over left and right. Piracy is not even a blip on the radar.
If society was built on moral rules and honest behavior, then maybe people should feel bad about pirating. But this society? Lols.
I struggle to even see the difference from slavery on most days.
- When companies treat you as a criminal even when you do try to do everything their way, it really becomes hard to care.
  The way many companies act, you'd think they believe that you have to be a sucker to buy/use their own products.
- Even when honest, I can approve the piracy in those days, as companies exploit everything, it acceptable for me.

Young people under 30
as opposed to old people under 30, like me! Still pirate though
- I think regular people who started to use the internet during the 90s and 2000s tend to know how to pirate more than the ones who started using them at a later decade.
  excludig techie people here because

As a Norwegian I talked to some acquaintances about a TV-series they liked and I asked "Cool, where can I watch it?". Then we all just looked at each other and laughed.
- I would laugh too
- Norway is so expensive 😬 even for us Swiss people
  
  Yeah, it is almost as if the companies operating in the area are price gouging on the basis of workers' salaries 🤔

Links between piracy and organized crime or malware, appear to be of less concern.
When rich have rape sex trafficked victims this one never comes up 🤡
- Or the fact that the billionaires are burning the most oil (which Norway sells them BTW) and baking the whole planet.

If I can't own it, why would I pay for it?

Honestly, I'm surprised it's only 50%. They don't have a cost of living crisis there?
- I suppose they don't use their superlatives quite that inflationarily.
- Well, 50% of young people asked were willing to admit to their piracy lol
- Not really. Just stay away from the capital/Oslo.

well, before that and for generations, banks printing money was an acceptable way of governments to make rich people richer and all others poorer, so i can fully accept that stealing was learned from govs and the richies there. change how "the successfull" accomplish their successes and you can teach the kids how to live without stealing, keep abuse by gov and richies as is and all the theft is done exactly as ordered by govs and richies, no matter the age.

You guys are saving money?
- It saves a lot of money for each subscription service you can skip.
  I only had to buy a VPN and a cheap mini PC as a server. And then a 1tb SSD. Then I needed to buy another 2tb. And then I had to run Ethernet upstairs for it since the WiFi card couldn't keep up. Then I had to upgrade the router to support the new gigabit cabling...
  Eh, well, at least I get to keep something out of it.
  
  Yeah, I'm going for a bit more storage, currently sitting at 108TB. The price of my home server could pay for around 75 years of Netflix.
  
  Yeah, at least you OWN something. With digital games or subscription services you are at the mercy of companies.
- If you only leech and you're not a hoarder, it really doesn't require much. For most people there's not really any need to store every single piece of media they've ever consumed or hope to consume...some day...maybe. Or setup tools to automate their uncontrollable hoarding.
  
  Oh God this is going to become the new "clearing away all grandpa's old Playboys and VHS tapes and newspapers," isn't it?
- Yep, roughly $400 a week.
  I run lean, dude. You don't want my life.
  If it's about the hobby, the low end is what an old laptop and a crap hard drive? Cycle out new releases as they come and go.
  I could set someone up with Jellyfin and a full arr suite for $50.
  
  Yep, roughly $400 a week.
  Huh? How? Were you subscribed to every single streaming service that existed?
  
  Saaaame. If I paid for every movie I watched, I’d have no moneys.

That figure’s come down significantly since the age of vikings though
- "Saving money by" vs "making money by"
  
  "A penny saved is a penny earned!"
  Benji F

Those are rookie numbers, you've got to pump those up.

Half of young Norwegians are wrong
- That’s a great answer.
  Safe sailing on the high seas, me hearties.

Music artists aren't getting paid.
Companies regularly buy up IP, then leave it unavailable.
No central ability to find things.
All licenses are temporary and have no end date.
Companies are regularly raising rates far beyond inflation.
Lowering quality for a given price, then making a higher price point to get it back.
Adding advertisements and raising rates to get rid of them.
Selling our watching habits.
Or, you can download it and not deal with any of that.
When piracy rates go up, it's because customer service and value has gone down.
- Lowering quality for a given price, then making a higher price point to get it back.
  This.
- Yeah. I stopped pirating for like 3 years because of Netflix having enough content to occupy me (and I had a he'll of a lot more time on my hands then than I do now). Now Netflix doesn't have shit and everything is spread over a ton of services. I can either constantly be changing subscriptions around or pay like 7$ a month for a VPN and have everything..... Hmmm, tough choice.

As a norwegian who is back to pirating after a break of around 10-12 years, it is not primarily a cost issue. Hell with hardware investments it is costing me more tho that includes stuff for gaming (roms, i currently dont pirate pc games).
What it is is a service issue. Self curated collection of movies and shows beats the fragmented shit that is current streaming platforms not to mention the flood of utter garbage on tgese platforms you have to sift thru to find somethinf worth watching. Not to mention the privacy aspects and in general the "ownership" model (ie licensing without really knowing the terms).
Fuck that shit and im never getting fooled again.

I have a few Norweigan friends and they say the same.

As a young Norwegian I can say that I've saved a bit of money by pirating. I have a nas with 10s of tb of movies disney or Warner bros can't delete from my library.

just got to a 364 ratio so i'm doing my part

Corporate Businesses treat streaming services like it's Cable all over again. Content available here, content available there, no content available anywhere for some shows and movies.
Gaming industry pushing hard to default everything to $70 as the norm, while certain editions are in triple digits and even having the gall to ask for another $30 or $40 for battle passes.
Spotify CEO and Joe Rogan both are paid far more than any music artist on the platform.

Slavic syndrome?

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