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Conservative views

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Those are actually Libertarian views posing as Conservative views because Conservatism has been taken over by billionaire libertarian think tanks, looking to lower their taxes.
- This is a no true Scotsman fallacy. The simple truth is that conservatism always served fascists, it's just more overt now.
  
  I didn't say anything about fascism, that's a whole different topic entirely. So weird that's you've brought a third term in whilst claiming I was playing on the no true scottsman fallacy (which I don't believe is the case).
  Conservativism is about the family unit, the church/traditional culture, and serving your community and nation. Conserving tradition in the name and style of your ancestors (so Confusionism is fairly conservative for instance, as it focuses on ancestors worship and supporting your parents).
  Libertarianism is about reducing government, avoiding taxes, and maximizing individual "freedoms".
  They're simply two different ideologies. Has nothing to do with a not true scottsman fallacy. Has to do with the fact they're obviously not overlapping sets of values, and in fact oppose each other greatly and often.
  However American have been tricked into thinking they're compatible.
  Your comments and those supporting it are proof of this. You've been had by billionaire think tanks and mega churches. Brainwashed into seeing them as the same ideology when they're actually in opposition.
  Foolish American. Brainwashed people are bound to vote against their own interests. Lambs to the slaughter.
  
  Remember when Elon claimed to be a libertarian before literally joining the establishment Republicans? Libertarianism isn't real. "Libertarians" bend the knee to conservatives and fascists so quickly it doesn't matter what the ideology supposedly says. It doesn't matter that you didn't "say" anything about fascism. If you can't connect these two things, that is simply a failure in critical thinking.
  
  I'm the one saying Libertarianism has been sold to Americans under the brand of Conservatism.
  ... and it's important to point out (particularly to young people) that these two philosophies don't mesh.
  You're free to say "No! All you conservative voters are actually fascists and you're evil and stupid and need to stay away from everyone!" - and continue to see whether that shaming moralism of young men starts winning them over. You're free to persist with declaring everything right wing fascist.
  After the last election some might suggest it's not winning any votes.
  
  Take a break from sipping the debate bro juice.
  
  The idea that you're a credible advisor when you can't even keep track of whose arguing what is ridiculous.
  If you don't have a response and want to take a break, you don't have project that onto me. You can just stop responding and walk away.
  
  It's not the Scotsman fallacy. You don't even address the arguments and try to show how it is.
- Taken over... a hundred years ago.

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