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Conservative views

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I CAN'T SAY WHATEVER I WANT says man who constantly says whatever he wants
- some people misinterpret "freedom of speech" meaning universal freedom of speech. all it mandates is that the government isn't going to punish you for saying shit. It does not protect a person if other people punish them for saying shit.
  
  Another way to say that is: Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences your speech elicits in others.
  
  You also aren’t entitled to a platform. A website not letting you post something isn’t about “freedom of speech.”
- I don't want push back when I speak!
  What he really wants with his freeze peach..
- My bet is it's a trick to justify themselves to their dumbass fanbase later on. "They censored us for years, now we're in power it's only fair that we get to arrest people who criticize us!"

(Actual conversation)
Freedom loving conservative™: Speak your mind it's your right to say things even if it offends people
Me: The 50k dead Palestinian civilians won't bring back the dead Israelis from Oct 7th
Freedom loving conservative™: HOW DARE YOU, YOU ARE A TERRORIST SYMPATHISER AND YOU DESERVE TO BE DEPORTED, THAT SORT OF SPEECH SHOULD BE BANNED
- Honestly, hardly anyone I know IRL knows specifics about Israel and Palestine.
  
  I don't, but I've chosen not to. There are plenty of problems in my own country, let alone one half way across the world.
- it's* your right

You mean crazy, hateful, transphobic racist ones?
- Why are you being so divisive?
  
  I'm just going to assume this is sarcasm, because otherwise, my hope in humanity starts wavering
  
  Let's see, the conservative Christian right just voted in a nasacistic tyrant twice. They want to declare America as a Christian country. They want to abolish the separation of church and state. They want to teach creationism in schools. They want LGBT to register as sex offenders. They want to remove books from schools and libraries they don't like. They want to immediately execute every death row inmate. I'm not sure why I'm pissed at conservatives.

When conservatives whine at you like this, just remind them that they are in a cult. When they get mad at you, accuse them if 'censoring' your free speech.
- Go further than that, tell them they're mindless sheep, that they're cucks to the ruling class, that they fall in line to whoever makes them feel good and don't have an independant bone in their body. Remind them that Trump had 4 years with full control and accomplished zero of his promises, and that they're idiots for falling for the same trick. Remind them that they're the loud, stupid, obnoxious ones who have to be placated by the world or they throw a tantrum. Tell them when Trump dies nobody will remember the people who supported him and nobody will help his followers when they're in trouble.
  Seriously, we have to take gloves off and find ways to hurt them on a deeply personal level. Because we should have been doing this from the start. Because it's all they really understand.
  
  I told a former schoolmate that he was acting like a snowflake and he lost his freaking mind. I expected it to bug him but holy crap.
  
  Like how we can’t call them gay anymore because gays get upset I worry about calling them cucks…but cucks like humilation so ¯(ツ)/¯
  
  damn that was satisfying to read

Fasten your seatbelts. We enter the Hard R Zone.
- Not as enjoyable as the Twilight Zone.
- 🎶 Highway to the hard R Zone 🎶 Ride into the hard R Zone
  
  HEY LANA

This is a very 2002 take.
Modern Conservatives just scream the N-word at the top of their lungs
- Nah. We're not totally there yet.
  A lot of them still need to dehumanize others by saying they eat pets first, pretend they're criminals and make them enemies by claiming they're stealing jobs
  Over time, it will become normalised and an entire new generation of f wits will emerge

Me: Oh no censored by the state?
Con: uhm no a post was hidden on a social media website
- It's even sadder than that honestly, it's actually "I suspect that my post wasn't recommended as hard as it could have been"

Yeah this isn't even going to be close to reality in about two months.
- It isn’t now. Go watch a science video on Facebook and read the comments. Every time I report all the idiots, and every time Meta decides not to remove the blatantly hateful, false information.
  
  dude I keep forgetting Facebook exists until someone talks about it in present tense and it gives me a little surprise. it's like someone saying they looked something up on askjeeves
  
  I don't have a facebook account for that and a myriad of other reasons. But I agree I am lagging culturally because of it. I'm sorry that I get that way on here when I get all wound up.
  
  I don't use Facebook but I find that on YouTube people will spout blatantly awful bigoted takes and any kind of response I make, no matter how much I try to clean up the language, will get shadow deleted
  
  Had some guy calling everyone dunces he disagreed with on fb.
  Apparently, it doesn't violate community standards
  Either does porn, or any form of harassment
  But apparently, me telling people that I was safe overnight at a hut when hiking, where and how many people isn't ok, and that post was removed

All humans are equal, some are more equal than others.

This isn't even a joke. There's pretty much a caller on LBC saying this word for word
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR4rHPpoPHQ
- This is amazing, the only thing I have found close to this is in the US is when CSPAN allow callers. They don't even need questions, they often twist themselves in knots on their very own.

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Mexicans and zero taxes

"Somebody disagreed with me! Conservatives are a persecuted class just like Christians and black people and those other races!"

What's the point of these imaginary conversations?
- It is a rhetorical device. Do you really need that explained or are you just employing one of your own by pretending to be obtuse?
  
  Wow, so aggressive. You political crowd is insufferable regardless of your spectrum. Just a bunch of angry losers.

You mean stuff like "we should deport illegal immigrants" and "abortion is murder"
Because conservatives aren't really afraid to say them. At worst, he's just trying to avoid another ban.
- They aren't afraid to say "your body my choice" and "repeal the 19th" nowadays either
  
  That's extreme, and not part of the right.

Those are actually Libertarian views posing as Conservative views because Conservatism has been taken over by billionaire libertarian think tanks, looking to lower their taxes.
- This is a no true Scotsman fallacy. The simple truth is that conservatism always served fascists, it's just more overt now.
  
  I didn't say anything about fascism, that's a whole different topic entirely. So weird that's you've brought a third term in whilst claiming I was playing on the no true scottsman fallacy (which I don't believe is the case).
  Conservativism is about the family unit, the church/traditional culture, and serving your community and nation. Conserving tradition in the name and style of your ancestors (so Confusionism is fairly conservative for instance, as it focuses on ancestors worship and supporting your parents).
  Libertarianism is about reducing government, avoiding taxes, and maximizing individual "freedoms".
  They're simply two different ideologies. Has nothing to do with a not true scottsman fallacy. Has to do with the fact they're obviously not overlapping sets of values, and in fact oppose each other greatly and often.
  However American have been tricked into thinking they're compatible.
  Your comments and those supporting it are proof of this. You've been had by billionaire think tanks and mega churches. Brainwashed into seeing them as the same ideology when they're actually in opposition.
  Foolish American. Brainwashed people are bound to vote against their own interests. Lambs to the slaughter.
  
  It's not the Scotsman fallacy. You don't even address the arguments and try to show how it is.
- Taken over... a hundred years ago.

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