2mo ago

Will there ever be a sino-soviet esque split between Lemmygrad and Hexbear?

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6186705

And most importantly, who's gonna be our Hoxha?

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My friend in Hexbear sent me this picture of the shelves in his Bearmart:

It's just a matter of time before they cave to liberals; we need to defederate NOW to protect ourselves.

Never gonna happen, they're our comrades in arms against the liberal servers.

We should do it for fun for a day. No warning.
- just drop by hexbear and talk about meat in our behald, that'll do
  
  Okay. I’ve got to ask. Don’t judge me. But what is our behald, and why do we have meat in it? What volume of Capital is this in? Should I be concerned?
- And then it lasts until Lemmygrad falls due to Gorbachev becoming admin or some shit.
- Ooo, April fools day

No, but I wish they would read more. It's pretty obvious only a few read theory and the rest barely read more than the headlines of articles.

It’ll be over sex work
And we already have a Hoxha
- We're not doing a split over it because as the admins have said we don't defederate except from porn and open fascist instances.
  Now could Hexbear throw a shit-fit and defederate from us? That I could see happening easily. There are numerous drama loving types there and there was that one big thread accusing us baselessly of bigotry because someone got moderated and took it personally to the point of stirring up trouble and calling names as well as for defederation.
  I mean just looking at the comically ridiculous struggle sessions hexbears start among themselves it's almost amazing it hasn't happened already.
  Warning, minor criticism incoming: There are far too many there that are given far too much ear from their admins in ways that further pointless and counterproductive in-fighting over nothings that exemplifies the do-nothing, always bickering western left. It's my second favorite instance after this one I want to be clear, I like a lot of the people there and I'm glad it exists but I do have my problems with it. People accuse MLs of being authoritarian (and so we are) and yet it's not us but the left unity instance that is constantly having people appeal to the authorities in the hierarchy (ironic) to settle this or that little tiff or disagreement and to impose sweeping changes on others and communities and so on as a result of someone calling to the admins with a convincing sob sorry or whatever. I mean look at the current struggle they have going on over their changes to their shitliberalssay type communities. Just a total disconnect from the masses of their site including long-time users who love that stuff. It's kind of funny to me but also kind of sad. As the old saying goes, it's a land of contrasts that Hexbear.
  
  Now could Hexbear throw a shit-fit and defederate from us? That I could see happening easily. There are numerous drama loving types there and there was that one big thread accusing us baselessly of bigotry because someone got moderated and took it personally to the point of stirring up trouble and calling names as well as for defederation.
  Was that about Lemmy.ml as well? Apparently, they saw Nutomic's transphobic remarks, and saw personal issues on age-of-consent views held by a mod named Davel, and was rantin' on and about that
  As for calling names and stirring up trouble, yeah, they can be a handful
  I mean just looking at the comically ridiculous struggle sessions hexbears start among themselves it’s almost amazing it hasn’t happened already.
  That's a Chapo thing, and I think it prolly did
  People accuse MLs of being authoritarian (and so we are) and yet it’s not us but the left unity instance that is constantly having people appeal to the authorities in the hierarchy (ironic) to settle this or that little tiff or disagreement and to impose sweeping changes on others and communities and so on as a result of someone calling to the admins with a convincing sob sorry or whatever.
  Yeah, you have to remember, these western leftists came from an exodus off r/chapotraphouse, a banned dirtbag leftist subreddit based around an edgy left-wing podcast, and brought their chaotic energy as well onto chapo.chat, now known as Hexbear.net.
  I guess this appeal to authority is overcompensation for their historic chaotic brosocialist vibes...
- What are the respective positions on sex work?
  
  Ours is the Marxist position which seeks the complete abolition of prostitution and other forms of sexual exploitation including pornography. Their position is not that.
  
  My position is Kollontai position, unproductive work has to be abolished 👍
  https://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/1921/prostitution.htm
- either that or meat
- Apparently, they're banned...
- Consent is term that refers to the exercise of free will, which is an idealist concept. No one consented to being born, so no one fully consents to anything else that happens either.
  
  Sure, that's a take.
  You can conclude from there that all forms of exploitation are fine because consent didn't exist anyway, or you can leave it in the trash.
  Philosophical gymnastics divorced from grounded materialism that leave us with "nothing is real, everything is permitted" nonsense don't have utility in Marxist discussion.
  Sorry about the sass, I think it's a topic that sets me off.