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Trump Voters Got What They Wanted | Those who expect that Donald Trump will hurt others, and not them, are likely to be unpleasantly surprised

www.theatlantic.com Trump Voters Got What They Wanted

Those who expect that Donald Trump will hurt others, and not them, are likely to be unpleasantly surprised.

Summary

Democrats are grappling with Donald Trump’s decisive victory, which included popular vote support and wins in traditionally Democratic regions.

Analysts suggest that Trump’s appeal lies less in specific policies and more in his embodiment of resentment and populist anger.

While some blame Harris’s choice of running mate, media influence, or Biden’s timing in stepping aside, many argue that Trump’s support reflects a desire for his “tough-guy” rhetoric and promises of “social revenge.”

Despite the potential consequences, Trump’s supporters expect him to hurt others without affecting them.

Trump’s second term will likely bring about the destruction of the rule of law and the expansion of his power, leaving voters to confront the reality of his actions.

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Trump Voters Got What They Wanted

www.theatlantic.com /newsletters/archive/2024/11/trump-voters-got-what-they-wanted/680564/

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When his policies inevitably hurt them, they'll tell you it was someone else through some form of advanced mental gymnastics.
- “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” Minton told Mazzei. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”
  -- 2019, Crystal Minton, a secretary at the prison who is also a single mother caring for disabled parents
  
  I still find it so fucked up that people vote specifically to harm other people.
  
  How much you want to bet she voted for Trump again this election.
  It's going to be fun watching medicaid get gutted.
- Someone else
  Democrats.

I hope we all do the same thing, show no sympathy and tell them shut the fuck up you voted for this. He told you what he was going to do.
- This time we'll have all the evidence in the world... plus a 900 page booklet of stuff they were planning to do.

He tried to get one of his most loyal and closest allies Mike Pence and his family executed in an attemped coup. Just imagine what he's willing to do to his voters to get what he wants.
- From my (probably) ignorant European/German viewpoint, don't many Democrats also own Guns? I still believe the average American has very different viewpoints than the average russian (they had to deal with that kind of shit for over 60 years now) and are a lot less apathetic...i'm not entirely sure if trump goes on a "people falling out of windows" spree you guys are just going to accept it and fall over. Granted, i've been moping the last few days probably the same (many of you probably don't realize how influential the U.S. still is), but i don't think it's "Game Over" per se....
  So...yeah...there's still a little glimmer of hope, that glimmer being at least 40% of american people...
  
  Yes, many Democrats and those on the left also own guns. Maybe not as large a percentage of us as Republicans, but there are plenty of us.

They're just gojng to say 'I voted for cheap groceries and gas, not for this!' and absolve themselves of all sin.
- Look. I voted for trump on Nov 5th. It's the 7th now so that's the past and I said I'm sorry. You can't bring up my past decisions and hold them against me. People can grow, learn, and change. You have to forgive and forget and if you don't then you are the problem and need therapy.
  It's basic cheater logic
  
  What is so infuriating is that they feel entitled to this kind of mollycoddling for their own bad choices. Even if they do it again.
  No one should criticize these special snowflakes. I even had one dumbass tell me, "I know you don't like Trump, but I had to vote for him, because Hollywood and the liberals make me feel bad as a white cishet male" or words more or less to that effect. This was by way of "apologizing", mind you, the very week of donnie's "win" in 2016.
  First of all....Hollywood? WTAF? Do these dipshits really think that it is the President's job to govern Hollywood and how they make white males feel? Yes, Hollywood has been rather cloying at times in their sanctimony, but JFC, you don't have to consume their product for any reason, wokeness considerations aside. Voting for the likes of donnie is not going to do shit in that regard - if anything, Hollywood is only likely to get more obnoxious in their sanctimony and generally shitting on the majority of their audience and then wagging their finger at everyone when they have another multi-million dollar failure on their hands. Why these man-children cannot grow up and realize that Hollywood is not really capable of doing anything to them if they don't buy their products, I will never understand.
  Secondly, if liberals make him feel bad somehow, his response is to vote for one of the most corrupt, inept, and stupid people that has ever run for the office? I just can't understand this at all.
  He didn't think donnie would do anything for him. It was a revenge vote for some perceived slights from "Hollywood" and liberals.
  
  You can't bring up my past decisions and hold them against me. People can grow, learn, and change.
  Sorry, advocate for the devil; you've had 8 years to grow and reflect on the first presidency. That defense doesn't work twice!

They won't even fucking notice.
- They won't even care. Anything at all to "own the libs".
- Worse, they’ll donate to him for the pleasure of being stepped upon.

I cannot wait for the ending of FEMA and hurricane after hurricane slamming the south like a BBC.
The GoFund me for Florida will be glorious.
- Couple it with privatizing the national weather service so there will effectively be no warnings, and most of FL is gonna be dead anyhow.
- I’ve already vowed not to donate to red states/areas anymore. Pick your removed asses up by the bootstraps next hurricane season, morons.

I'm gonna laugh so hard. If we can't have a good country, we can at least have a bad country for all the people who voted it in.
- I'm done being a generous citizen. Transactional interactions only for trumpsters going forward.

I'm looking forward to the young Latino men, Gen Z, and women, especially white women,getting what they voted.
- Thing is, the qons built a parallel media structure for a reason. As Chomsky said, many of these people have a RIGHT to be angry. It's just that they are angry for the wrong reasons, and angry at the wrong policies and people responsible for those policies.
  That parallel media structure's entire purpose is to ensure that the "angry white males" (or whatever demo) is angry for the "right" reasons, and never get any ideas about who is to really be blamed for their misery. So they'll be shown caravans of immigrants headed for the border, scary black on white crime exaggerated out of proportion, told eggs now cost 4x as much because of what the trans did, and so on....
- Especially Latinos (+30 R vs 2020?!). Lots of "But I'm not an illegal immigrant!" when the ICE raids start up. "Sorry, your name's on the list." Off to the camps they go. Big whoops.

Good. Suffer and die.
We'll rebuild from those ashes should we get the chance to

They won't be surprised, they'll just remain angry because they'll be given new scapegoats to blame by the propaganda machine.

How many times are we going to hear the magabrainz whining that "he's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting, you guys!!!!"
- “I didn’t expect the leopards to eat MY face” says voter who voted for the Face-eating Leopard party (paraphrased).

That is their choice to make.

I can't wait to observe the consequences of people's actions.

"Voters who voted for the winner got what they wanted" uh-huh....

Democrat voters supporting their party hard shift to the right got what they deserved.
They can't expect to win elections if they continually ignore the needs of voters.
- Because now democrats being too conservative won't be an issue?
  The lesson people will take away from this is that LGBTQ and especially trans rights are a losing issue with voters. It will be that women's needs should be considered only if they don't disturb men's privileges.
  There isn't going to be a left-wing realignment. Leftists just took a fatal hit, they just don't realize it yet.

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