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In Capitalist America

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GOOD! If those Cops DIDNT have all that Gear then they would just WAIT OUTSIDE if there was ever a School Shooter MURDERING all the Children inside!
- I get what you are doing here but I think you are misled. The police has a monopoly on violence to protect the state apparatus and the ruling class. Protecting normal citizens is a means to an end of that, it never was the goal. The US police originated in a force that brought back run away slaves. Are we talking about run away slaves? Is there private property at risk? Is the school shooter threatened any organ of the state? So why bother? TLDR ACAB
- Is this sarcasm?
  
  Uvalde.
  
  Bruh

And you have 15 minutes to inhale your food before you're kicked out of the cafeteria. Keep up that productivity.
School district here even got rid of passing time to lunch. Your time begins the second class ends
- So I'm new to this and couldn't figure out why kids don't finish their lunch. Why are they given like 15 minutes to eat? It's unhealthy.
  
  The why is beyond me. Trying to meet state hours in minimal days to save operating cost? Lunch pulls admin and other staff to monitor instead of doing their other routines, so they try to minimize it maybe?
  15 to eat, kick them out to recess so they can clean tables for the next group.
  Many don't bother to eat because the lunch line eats up their time, too.
- Where I am, parents have to pay extra to have their kids stay at school during lunch. Like we're paying a babysitter to watch them during that time. And then if we don't pay the kid isn't even allowed to stay on school grounds at lunch time.
  
  Where is this hell?
  
  Is this Spain? Random guess.
  I hope it at least means they get more than 30 minutes
- In my country lunch is completely different. We also only have 15 minutes to eat, but we just eat in the classroom with the teacher of the previous hour. So you have to bring your own lunch, in my school you can even buy any food. But at least I am allowed to go into the city during lunch.
  
  But at least I am allowed to go into the city during lunch.
  I doubt 15 minutes are enough to go into the city and eat there.

Its a sacrifice children must make. There is no other way.
- ...and if they're shot in the line of duty, that's just their jobs as school students.
  
  How else will Jesus know we love him if we don't have, routine, mass sacrifices, of our children?

Suck down your slop so officer Asswipe can have NVGs and play Urban Army Man with his racist asshole friends!

Are you guys feeding catfood to kids now?
- Its what the cat wouldn't eat.
- Does food made from cats count?

you don't like cops, because they take a lot of resources for mostly nothing
I hate cops because I'm an anarchist and think the state shouldn't have a monopoly on violence
we're not the same
- Por que no los dos?
  
  what?
- I don’t like cops because I think they are gigantic pussies

I mean, this isn't specific to capitalism. Pretty sure north Korea is similar.
This is just baseline authoritarianism.
- Pretty sure north Korea is similar.
  The NYPD has a bigger budget than the DPRK. And New York hasn't been under siege by Pennsylvania for the last 80 years.
  
  The NYPD is also not in constant famine, they're one of the richest cities on the planet.
  That's like being surprised rent is more expensive in midtown Manhattan than in rural Texas.
  
  Pennsylvania, fix that
  edit: scratch that, Jersey should join in
- I saw a meme that called Plainclothes Officers "Secret Police" and it made me realize how much we're all brainwashed.

Shit schools make poverty trapped children, and poverty tapped children are more willing to not care about the legality of trying to survive or gain reputation with their friends/city. And the police love locking away people.
It's a win/win. You lower the cash to schools, increase the cash to police, police catch more "Criminals", and the politicians who sold this can tout the tough on crime to the next election cycle.
- Until the criminals learn to bribe police more than what politicians give them, and start buying more and more cops, and puff you are in a dictatorship ran by thugs
  Wait, sorry nothing changes
- And the low quality food means there is a bigger pool of low IQ aggressive high school graduates who want to join the police force.

Can't lie tho. My lunches looked like this maybe not as bad but I loved em. The lunch lady was nice too and would give me extra sometimes
- That's the saddest thing I've ever heard
  
  Oliver Twist energy. I wonder if he ever had to pay off school lunch debt to graduate.

Everything goes to the lowest bidder. I'm certain the samples looked a lot better.

Do they look like that though?

I think you misspelled fascist.

My school lunch was pretty good. Plus I got free lunches at that. Thanks Ma, for being poor.

City officials be like: Bring BACK THE BLUE food tray.

I had better food even during the fall of USSR

Or is it the other way around?
- You mean without the strong police, there would be an upcoming rebellion by the schoolkids?
  
  I mean that police will be deployed to any demonstrations trying to improve the school lunches. Or any other standard of living.

We wouldn't be the most powerful nation on earth of it were any other way.
- Maybe being the most powerful is overrated

I don't understand here.
Back in my old time, cafeteria food was also shit, so everybody was bringing their lunch (a sandwich, some fruits, a little boxed juice) and we called a day.
Is that piece of bread and rice (rice right?) and the piece of brown chicken we are seeing in the corner (badly cut out of the picture for more dramatic effect) free of charge? If so, what are you complaining about? If not, why don't you bring your god damn sandwich like it has always been?
- If so, what are you complaining about?
  I believe their argument was something along the lines of: 1. Over-funded police. 2. Underfunded child care.
  Your argument seems to be, and correct me if I'm wrong: It's always been shit, and you [sic] can bring your own lunch.
- I was thinking that seemed pretty decent as far as school food goes. Still, the point still stands.

Tbh, the way schools run is more akin to communism than capitalism. That food is trash because the school cafeteria isn't competing with anyone else.
- The food is trash because its supplied by a competitive process that try’s to minimise cost.
  Cafeteria competes with other prospective suppliers of cafeterias, but the children have no agency in who supplies that cafeteria. Only the local authority or whoever runs the school gets to choose.
  
  Minimizing cost doesn't work in a competitive environment because everyone will go to the competition that makes better stuff. The children have no agency to pick a different cafeteria.
  You're smoking the bad stuff dude. Quit picking sides and start looking at the mechanisms.
- Schools in America are.. Checks notes.. communist?
  
  Yes. You don't choose which school you go to. That's decided by where you live. There is no competition, and you're not paying to go. Funding comes from government and decisions are made by centralized authority. Communism. Everything about it is communism.
- American school lunches are the perfect metaphor for laissez faire capitalism, actually:
  they used to be much better, but due to a combination of deregulation and maximizing for profits over quality of living for the general population, they've gradually declined to the point that it's only due to the heroic efforts of severely overworked and underpaid workers that they're even edible and nonpoisonous.
  
  What does that mean?
- Oh yes I forgot bidding out contracts to multiple suppliers that are private companies is ... Communism?
  It's literally a failing of capitalism (cheapest bidder usually wins the contract) that the lunches aren't better. Be mad about it if you want to, we all should be, there are absolutely problems with school lunches in many districts.
  Now you could talk about how there isn't a lot of competition and there are monopolies like Sysco in the food service industry, but still the suppliers for school lunches are privately owned companies in the USA.
  
  When the bidding process is "whoever goes lower", there's no customer decision making. That's not capitalism. That's a simple rule.
- The food is trash because the budget was cut down to the bone ("muh taxes") and the cafeteria workers have to bulk purchase out a bunch of prepackaged ingredients made by companies that lobbied the government to reclassify tomatoes as vegetables so they can squeeze out a little more profit. You're right about one thing though; there's no competition. The game was rigged by corporations from the start.
  
  Real competition is the core of capitalism. There needs to be direct customer choice, and prices that aren't just fixed.

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