Exactly. Being close to pissing myself in the cinema due to the incessant false summit endings soured that film a bit. Rewatching the extended version at home was amazing though.
The ring is destroyed like halfway through the last book. Tolkien was really into worldbuilding, and he refused to let the ring be the end of it. He had to ramble for another half a book about the fallout afterwards. Aragon getting crowned king, Frodo getting banished to the Shadow Realm, some more politicking in Rivendell, and I think we hear a little bit about the elves too?
I’m also not a fan of the series, FWIW. I read the books. Gave them a fair chance. And fucking hated every minute of it, because I kept expecting it to get better. Because everyone loses their shit over it, so it has to get good eventually, right? I’m a massive fantasy nerd, but LOTR is just a slog.
He did the same thing with The Hobbit. Smaug dies like three quarters of the way through the book, and he doesn’t even get killed by one of the characters that we’ve been following for the entire fucking book. The main characters just sort of wait for him to leave the lair, then rummage through his pile of gold once he’s gone.
Compared to how they would get made even today, 20 years later, they’re incredibly well-made and somewhat faithful to the material, shield-surfing, dwarf-tossing, no musical numbers, and no Tom Bombadil aside. The actors involved knew they were working on something special and gave it their all, sometimes even their toe. They stand as the pinnacle of fantasy adventure movies, nothing made before or since can even hold a candle to them, except from maybe the 1983 epic masterpiece, Krull.
LOTR is great. It’s pretty much the template of every single fantasy story written since the 20th century.
The Peter Jackson films are probably the best adaptation of any novel ever made, but with as long as they are, they’re TikTok videos compared to the books in the universe. Know that if you ever read any of them (the Hobbit is a great and short start btw), those fantasy tropes you see are coming straight from the source. Those greedy dwarves obsessed with gold were invented by Tolkien’s creative (and somewhat antisemitic) brain.
…btw, I assume you’re referring to the original Peter Jackson films. Saying that you don’t like the Hobbit film trilogy is not an unpopular opinion at all. In that case, I think the films were longer than the book lol
Lord of the rings or the Hobbit? The LOTR books are a slow burn, but the Hobbit is a much easier read. The first one I read was the Hobbit and I don’t think I’d have gotten into the trilogy without it.
All the people of my generation (Millenials) absolutely love the ever loving shit out of LOTR but the new one, Gen Z, are more into Marvel and fast paced movies from what I've seen.
And that's fine. I will keep that epic and timeless masterpiece for myself 🤷♂️
In fact, I think I'm gonna get high and watch all 3 movies tomorrow to start my vacation properly. Thanks for the reminder!
Yes i do think this tik tok destroyed brains have smth to do with it but i like old films like charlie and the chocolat factory or the 1954 version of 20000 miles below the sea, just lotr is sooo boring for me
I hate LOTR! I've never heard anyone else say that. Thank you for making me feel less alone!
I made the mistake of reading the books before watching the movies. Say what you want about JRRT being a world building genius, the books are dull as shit. They are the most boring thing I've ever read. I was an avid reader at the time and ended up skipping large portions of the books to try to find any plot.
Of course that ruined any chance of me enjoying the movies. I tried watching Fellowship but I went into it with such a negative opinion after the books that it was unwatchable.
I love the movies from what I remember, but I watched them as a kid.
I also loved the Hobbit novel. But I have tried on at least three occasions to start the book trilogy to no avail. Not sure what exactly it was, but I usually get through the first chapter and then my interest just dies. Maybe I will try an audiobook version next time.
I'm disappointed to see that there are posts on this community that are half-assed. I mean, come on, I see this kind of quality on another platform in another community of the same name.
Sorry, it was just smth i didnt think much about, i just wrote it because its an unpopular opinion, idk i just thought that would fit and it would be cool if you could add a "casual" tag to your post so that people dont have to high hopes
From your comments, it seems like you may just not be in the target demographic for these kinds of films. It sounds like you're a teenager, and while there may be some teens who enjoy these films, they're definitely intended for adults. Also, you mentioned that you live in a non-english-speaking country. There's a lot of English films that manage to translate well to non-english-speaking audiences, but LOTR is unfortunately not one of them. The characters speak heavily in metaphor and idioms, most of which don't translate well. It's the same reason Western audiences often have difficulty with older Japanese media.
Have to agree. I'm gen X and most of my gen loves 'em. I've always personally loved fantasy & science fiction. But both times I tried struggling my way through LotR it was like reading a dry, bland history textbook written my an academic in love with his own navel.
I also love Peter Jackson, but give me Brain Dead over any of the LotR films. They're pretty, but BORING.
My sister completely agrees. She has watched the first one..
Or.. half of it, and fell asleep.
Or so she claims. Meanwhile she has watched a movie like "The abyss" a few times, which is also 3ish hours long
The lotr movies to have their fair share of uninteresting scenes.. personally i hate all scenes with gollum. And the last time i watched the movies i skipped all the scenes with him.. he is annoying and takes up the whole scene with his annoying drunk-kermit voice. I hate it so much.
Everything else about the movies are great. And i appreciate the use of practical effects rather than shitty cgi
I think that among film buffs that is true. Normies though don’t all like it. My brother hates it just because it’s fantasy. I know others who don’t like it because it’s long.
I think if I hadn’t read the Hobbit and the LOTR trilogy previously in high school, I wouldn’t have enjoyed the movies. Seeing the characters in the flesh forming the fellowship was one of the most epic movie moments ever for me.
I agree. The first little bit is okay, but then it’s two and a half hours of D-minor synthesizer droning and a lot of panicked faces and screaming. Tedious and exhausting for nothing.
I read the rings trilogy preceded by the Hobbit as a teenager. Then did it again in my late 20s. I hate the movies. They drag on. The effects are lackluster. The acting is mediocre and not believable. That said I have no patience for cinema. My favorite movie is Big Trouble in Little China. I am not the target demographic for the rings movies. Someone likes 'em, and that's fine.
The effects are lackluster? Several technologies they developed were revolutionary for film. The flames on the Balrog and the huge armies were both practically bespoke tech that they used for the movies.
I'm in the opposite boat- love the movies, not crazy about the books. Love the hobbit novel and have read and re read it multiple times, but I can't start Lord of the Rings for some reason. Never am able to get into it
I felt this way for a long, long time, and I mostly still agree, but I love the universe.
I loved the animated Hobbit from the 80s and I highly enjoyed the Amazon Rings of Power series though, so I think there is something to the universe, just these movies aren't actually good ( to me )
Man, all the comments in here about the "boring" songs and poetry … do yourself a favour and don't ever even consider reading works like, oh, I don't know, practically anything by Goethe, Schiller, or Shakespeare. Or from the other side of the world, the novel A Dream of Red Mansions. Or that Indian epic Mahabharata.
I had a friend at school who loved the book. I tried a few times to get into it and thought it was dull as anything so just passed on it after 200 pages or so.
Fast forward to the films and I actually enjoyed a lot of the first film but the 2nd and 3rd films I found pretty endless. Then later at university people wanted to watch the extended DVDs or whatever and I found better things to be doing those nights after the first time.
Everyone has different reasons for liking or disliking things, but for me my main dislike is the lack of genuine humour in the stories. It is relentlessly serious. I don't mean I expect jokes everywhere but it's particularly po-faced, the book especially. I tried reading it again a few years ago to see if I'd been too harsh on it but still couldn't make it to the end.
So what you're saying is that you don't like one of the greatest fantasy epics of all time, the original that spawned the whole genre, because it's not a good comedy?
That's like complaining that your stove doesn't have an 8k display 🤦
No, I'm saying that it takes itself incredibly seriously which to me - this is my own personal opinion - comes over as a bit pretentious.
Tolkien was attempting to build his own equivalent of an Anglo-Saxon epic from scratch and I get that . I even admire it. But I empathize with his friend C S Lewis (perhaps apocryphal) response when show the first draft "for Christ sake John, not more fucking elves..."
Like I say, I don't expect Gandalf to be slipping on a banana peel while Frodo and Sam do a 'Who's on first?' routine.
But for me there's no change in pace, mood or objective to sustain my interest for the length of the whole work, which is probably why I generally more or less get on with the first book and enjoy the first film; but get less interested and eventually numbed to the rest of the story because it feels like endless servings of more of the same. To me it just comes over like, this happens, this happens, this happens then good triumphs like you knew it would.
Gollum is the only character that truly seems to go beyond a basic 'i am here to do this in the narrative ' and is mercurial and interesting to watch/read
While I recognise the enormous impact and world building Tolkien created, he really couldn't write for shit. The LOTR books are largely boring with small amounts of interesting stuff/action inbetween. Probably should have stuck to short for stuff like The Hobbit.
It's not about the action, it's about the world he created. Look at Dune, for example, that book is objectively boring, but the world Frank Herbert created is what makes it so fascinating