Musk's Starlink backtracks and says it will comply with judge's order to block X in Brazil

My plan was to get punched in the face!!! Yet again, I am ahead of the curve!!!

I didn't even have a plan.

I drew a map of Zelda 1 once. Does that count?

You can jam the signal with very little power, and you can prevent people in Brazil from paying for the service.

The links require a station on the ground, and services must be paid for monthly. Those are two things a local government can control pretty effectively.

I love that he is so stupid that he didn't realize he could back out of a legality by saying, "LOL JK."

He's got a huge clean ai dataset

Why would he pick a fight with the only group in the world that currently supports him?

Why would he pick fights with himself?

Sorry. To clarify what I meant: the "bummer" is that I want the situation with Starlink, Twitter, and Brazil to result in the permanent downfall of that dogshit site, and severe fines for Starlink so that other countries can look toward Brazil as an example of how to deal with the kinds of social media sites that allow disinformation to propagate.

The fact that Starlink has agreed to comply takes off some of the heat, and therefore leaves some of the territory of fully exploring the legal ramifications of holding reich-wing billionaire freaks somewhat accountable for the shit that their companies do unexplored. Yeah, it's good that Twitter is still forbidden from operating in Brazil, but I would have liked for Musk to face more repercussions through Starlink as well.

I hope that the EU still takes action against Twitter though, with or without any additional escalation involving Starlink.

Typically, I would agree. However, what is happening with Twitter and Brazil isn't censorship; it's Twitter refusing to appoint legal council to respond to any legal complaints within Brazil's jurisdiction. Musk has made the conscious decision to have Twitter not be legally-compliant with Brazil's laws, therefore Brazil doesn't allow them to operate there.

It's not suppression of speech. It's the consequence of refusal to even acknowledge the legitimacy of the Courts by refusing to appoint council.

It's not just hilarious. Twitter gives him way, way too Mich influence and power. It's critical that stops.

Starlink to an extent, too.

Agree with you that I am conflicted though.

The censorship you're talking about, was about 6 or 7 accounts that were instrumental in instigating a January 6 style coup attempt in favour of the previous president who lost the election. Those accounts were causing unrest among the population, and were calling for violence in the streets.

Brazil doesn't look too kindly to that, given its history. They wanted those accounts banned. And instead of arguing the legality of banning those accounts in court, musk decided to get all of Twitter/X banned in Brazil.

In other words, it's Twitter/X's own fault. They could've appointed legal representation and tried to argue that banning those accounts amounted to illegal censorship, but instead of trying that they stuck their head in the sand, like an ostrich, hoping it would blow over, by closing the offices in Brazil and refusing to appoint such legal representation. Leaving the courts no choice but to ban all of Twitter/X.

I'm not even that conflicted, those cheering any government censorship are misguided at best.

What a braindead take

I love when people call out their own stupidity at the top of their comments

You've never heard of biased, politically motivated supreme court justices?

And the solution is a billionaire and his vanity project flagrantly ignoring the Supreme Court?

Alright. What is starlink's legal path to overturn the decision? Whether the decision makes sense or not doesn't change what the decision was.

Point isn't whether it's right or not. The point is that once the supreme court rules, there's no "higher" court to take it to. The lower courts can't rule differently on something explicitly ruled on already, and they can't "overrule" the supreme court since they are explicitly "under" them. So regardless of what Starlink says, they aren't going to change that, at least not any time soon. And X will either be dead, irrelevant, or significantly modified by the time the court changes enough to get them to change their decision.

The issue is when you refuse to engage in the legal process at all you lose the right to find compromise. It's the same reason Alex Jones was defaulted.

People keep telling me to go into research but none of them are willing to pay for my time

If musk and X wanted to argue that in court, they could've appointed legal representation in Brazil. Instead, ol' musky closed down the Brazil offices of X, like the braindead weirdo that he is.

As we say in my country, the person who burns his own butt, has to sit on the blisters.

Eh, still feels like a good chance he'd let his ego get in the way of sanity

Couldn’t they have done something similar at Twitter?

No, believe me, they can. Everyone has a price. The question is how much Elon&Co. wants to offer.

In the case of providing unblocked internet to the masses? Yes. No government has the right to cut people off from news they aren’t able to suppress.

Do you think a government should have the right to block its citizens from information? This isn’t China we’re talking about, although at this rate there will be a Great Firewall of Brazil in no time.

A country's airspace does not extend into space. A nation's sovereignty over its airspace typically ends at the point where outer space begins, but there is no universally agreed-upon boundary between airspace and outer space.

Most commonly, the boundary is considered to be at the Kármán line, which is located at an altitude of 100 kilometers (62 miles) above sea level. Everything below this is generally considered sovereign airspace, while everything above it is considered international space, not subject to any one country's control.

I bet the investors were also worried other governments would notice this product as explicitly undermining their sovereignty. I'm sure that goes over well with regulatory agencies all over.

No problem, Elon can eat his own Doge food.

I’m sure they would change their mind if there were more taxes

I’m not siding with musk. I’m siding with a sky internet that doesn’t have to block something because one specific government decides that SOME information isn’t legal for its people. It’s the responsibility of the company to ensure it citizens aren’t using that sky Internet making satellite dishes illegal or something like that.

It’s disappointing musk is involved with both companies. Although he has destroyed Twitter, it is still used by many people to Share information.