It's true, basic human empathy was invented in 1984 by Vladimir Stalin in order to destroy the west.
Should have done it earlier tbh.
Pelosi telling Palestine protesters to go back to their Chinese HQ will forever stay with me. How did she know about the Chatanooga Checkpoint? Have the Deep State infiltrated the Gen Zedong Lair?
The New York Times published an article accusing various journalists and activist groups (including Code Pink) who criticised USAmerican imperialism - including some Indian ones - were Chinese state proxies. I suspect this "information" had already been passed around US political elites resulting in Pelosi's reaction.
The New York Times article was followed shortly by the Indian fascist government arresting / torturing journalists that were allegedly associated with those mentioned in the article; Indian governments have long accused journalists critical of them as Chinese proxies (eg "urban Naxalites") because they document atrocities such as in Kashmir, and BJP-associated pogroms where they go to a village and kill every Muslim/Christian/lower-caste child and woman. The raids lasted over 100 days.
The liberals in the comments here do not understand or care the extent of depravity that is the American Empire.
Don’t forget the time India killed a Sikh dude in Canada, that shit was crazy
"no, they're just sympathizers of hamas terrorism"
"I am a heartless psychopath after money and power, everyone else must be too" - liberals.
Liberals: "Trust me! anyone who oppose us are only a large number of hard working innovative scary red masterminds who receive the aid of the invisible hand to travel to the other end of Asia, disguised themselves as Palestinian people, and stage mass peaceful protest! This is why we need heavy authoeritarian government intervention in all aspects of the lives of our citizen despite our redefinition of Capitalism from government by rich property owners to minimal government intervention in the economy!"
It's become impossible to tell how many Dems actually believe that and how much of the rhetoric is just pushed by shills and bots.
Mostly bots. A few users have a ton of alt accounts.
The irony is that the people calling others bots are actually bots.
Even if we are arguing with bots or the fed, at least any lurkers reading this thread discussion will hopefully learn something and potentially be more sympathetic or support our side.
I do highly suspect it is bots, shills, or the fed as we are seeing a lot more trolling than normal on our instance today.
Idk. So many idiots out there id say it's more shills these days. Especially when so many of them are happy to do free pr for dems
It's not that I don't care about Palestine and Palestinians, I want them to be able to live their lives freely and peacefully without the IDF bombing the hell out of them and killing the innocent men, women, children, and babies there. It's that the ask from the "why don't you support Palestinians?" crowd is to not vote for Kamala Harris. You want us to stay home or vote for some nobody 3rd party candidate which paves the way for Trump's 2nd term and a promised end to democracy.
Well, yes. Of course we don't want you to vote for a cop who would continue a genocide. And if you really cared about people outside crackerland, you wouldn't want that either.
Also, YOU NEVER HAD DEMOCRACY YOU FUKKIN KKKOLONIALISTS
Sakai was right.
The first step is admitting that the US isn't a democracy to begin with and never has been. At its most democratic, it is "democracy for the rich with some labor unions that aren't completely powerless as negotiating entities for subsets of workers but nevertheless have little to do with what the ruling parties of the country do."
If you go back in time to the original language, you get that language coupled with genocide and slavery. As time goes on, it doesn't get a lot better. Civil rights paved the way for liberals to act like "we've got democracy now because people have the right to vote", but ignores mass incarceration and its disenfranchisement, it ignores the electoral college, it ignores voter suppression, it ignores gerrymandering, it ignores lobbying, it ignores how little regular people have anything to do with what people are candidates to vote on in the first place. What is democratic about that system, for a person who can afford to drop thousands on buying politicians? Sure, something. What is democratic about that system, for a person who is working two jobs to make ends meet and getting eaten alive on means testing and debt? What is democratic about that system, for a person who gets racially profiled and thrown in jail over false accusations, if not gunned down in the street over absolutely nothing other than the whims of police?
I don’t really disagree with anything you wrote.
The thing I still can’t understand is that the consensus of Lemmygrad and other leftist Lemmy instances is that both of these things are somehow true at the same time
- electoralism can’t work, voting won’t fix this
- voting for the democrats is bad
And I can’t understand this logic. Voting simultaneously doesn’t matter but also matters and is a full throated endorsement of genocide.
I also agree that we don’t have a real democracy, but if the choice is between “fake democracy with project 2025” and “fake democracy with milquetoast corpos” I’m not sure why I would do anything to help the openly fascist fascists take power.
You are right but getting trump in office will lead to more Christian fascists in the Supreme Court.
We lost roe vs wade last time, what are you willing to lose this time?
As a white male I have nothing to lose. It’s my niece and my sister’s unborn kids who will be the one paying for your petulance.
The Democrats are more keen on continuing the genocide than beating Trump. That is a democracy not beholden to the masses.
