Unbelievable

Which is exactly why I'm against the death penalty and in favor of legalizing and taxing recreational drugs to fund rehab. I don't care if you're the Dalai Lama or a homeless drug addict, every life has equal value in my eyes.

Just to shake the wasps nest, what about Nazis?

You're just being foolish to trust them.. I'm Canadian and always heard how our cops weren't as bad as American cops, then we had protests in my city and the Canadian police proved they can be every bit as sadistic and psychotic as American cops. So can European cops. Don't let your guards down

I know several ex-cops because they saw everyone around them was a bastard, they are great people.

I live in Canada and also know several cops who are great people;however, even they would not raise a finger to expose fellow cops who are indeed bastards

That's the problem, it's not a few bad apples, it's a shit ton of them and the few remaining good apples are too afraid or just not care to do anything about the rest

It probably helps that in most European countries police training is in the thousands of hours and in America it's under 6 months.

https://www.trainingreform.org/not-enough-training

I know several cops and they are all great people.

No, they aren't. Even if they are kind and friendly to you, they are still cops. They are still the state sanctioned users of violence whose primary job is to keep the status quo in which the rich own everything, and the workers don't. Where people live on the streets and children go hungry.

Here in Vic Australia too. They're mostly legends

The only people I know who hate cops here hate them because they either didn't solve their issue, or they are generally known to act like asses.

It probably also helps that nobody carries guns here so they can operate on a shoot last, ask questions first policy

I get a different vibe from cops in Europe, and I wonder if it has to do with countries where they have mandatory military conscription / civil service.

I sometimes wonder if in the US, we had some kind of system where everyone was forced to serve as a police officer, say between the ages of 18 and 21, we would have an entirely different system. Instead of attracting power hungry psycho killers, you would have normal people who understood they were performing a required service for their community and society in general. You might then get more mutual respect between cops and civilians since everybody will have been on both sides.

Also, it’s almost as if anyone who wants to be a cop should be immediately disqualified. Same with politicians.

Same. I'm in the US, and every cop I've personally interacted with has been reasonable and professional. But I'm pretty mainstream (not a minority, dress conservatively, etc), so generally not a target for police enforcement. So it's hard for me to know whether my local police are better than average, or if our heavy demographic skew is the main contributor to our low crime rate (i.e. they could still be targeting minorities unfairly, it just wouldn't be clear from general stats).

Regardless, even my local police have far too much power, so I'm absolutely in favor of ending qualified immunity and splitting the force into armed and unarmed officers. We've had some local incidents of police overstepping their bounds (e.g. I'm in Utah and remember this incident very clearly, though that was in another jurisdiction).

It's pretty normal in say, Italy and Spain (or at least populated/Catalonian parts of Spain). Everyone immediately brings up Genoa G8 when a police do stuff.

I'm curious in which European country. At least here in Germany ACAB definitely applies

I know several cops and they are all great people.

No they aren't.

Wouldn't that be ABAC, not ACAB?

So then why do they chose to defend and enable bastards like this guy?

Notice how none of his cop co-workers are demanding his removal and refusing to work with him

This argument goes around and around every time someone says ACAB. There is a culture of protecting your own in police forces - it seems to happen all around the world. This culture causes otherwise good cops to overlook actions of their peers that shouldn't be overlooked. If you let someone get away with something illegal, when your job is to uphold the law, then you are not doing your job and are really not a good cop after all - you're just as bad as your peers. ACAB is a much simpler way of saying all that.

Nope, if others were not bastards, this guy would not be on the force and would be in jail. They rally ‘round the family….

And other cops aren’t.

We have here, from this case alone:

• 1 absolutely insane individual who recklessly killed Jaahnavi Kandula, Kevin Dave.
• Daniel Auderer, who laughed at her death and said she was lower value anyway
• Mike Solan, who didn't shut Daniel down the moment he said that, also coincidentally SPOG president
• Whomever is authorized to discharge all 3 of these
• Whomever gave any of these 3 their positions
• The Union that defends these guys
• The cops willingly giving money to that Union

We have more of such cases than Police Unions.

Think of the system like a force field (the physics kind, not the scifi kind). It pulls bastards into it. If you're not, you're in its presence, and you're susceptible to its effects. It's more like "No Humans Are Immune To The Corrupting Influence Of Militarized Institutions" but ACAB is a lot easier to say.

All cops. No exceptions. They are raised by selfish parents to be a selfish person who sees others as beneath them. It's how cops are found, look for the greediest person in the room who would hurt others for gain and make them a lap dog. Cops aren't smart enough to know they are being used. All cops. No exceptions.

She’s not getting back together with you lmao get over it

How do you expect any system to "uphold the law" without violence? Or are you just condoning police violence and not defense from police.

What's with the lol at the end, is this topic a joke to you?

I think that analogy is worse. If my scumbag sibling killed someone and I didn't say they were a scumbag and distance myself from them and instead defended them and enabled them to continue being a scumbag I damn well deserve others' ire.

This isn't the one bad cop in America, this is just one of many whose colleagues enable and approve of their actions. Often defenders of these shitbags say, "it's just one bad apple" but they forget the rest of the saying that one bad apple spoils the bunch. In this case, too, the people that should hold themselves to a higher standard as a group are the ones making themselves look shitty by not doing so.

Not sure how people with family and friends of "decent cops" can defend them as a whole, particularly when most of them call on their cop friend or family member to help get them out of tickets. They're just as bad (lol).

Murder. You're not going 75mph in a 25mph zone and trying not to kill people. Doesn't matter whether there was a specific target in mind.

You are required to obtain a new driver's license within 30 days of moving to Washington.

https://dol.wa.gov/moving-washington

i mean yeah, that's pretty bad, but like, he also shouldn't have been driving in the first place so.

The moment he put the car into drive he should have immediately pulled himself over and issued himself a verbal warning.

idk man, probably charged and arrested, but what do i know, i'm not a cop.

it is at least a year old

but ok we are protesting wrong. got it.

Why?

oh if you think i am defending cops then i have failed terribly at communicating the sarcasm and disdain in my tone lemme try again

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