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'Direct attack': Trump said to be prepping 'much bigger insurrection' after rally comments

www.rawstory.com 'Direct attack': Critics say Trump is prepping 'much bigger insurrection'

Donald Trump's comments at a rally in Minnesota on Saturday led several prominent onlookers to label the former president a "very real threat to democracy" who is preparing another insurrection. Trump earlier in the day spoke at a Bitcoin conference, where the attendees said his speech was "ramb.....

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The last one didn't work, so that makes sense
Good god, why is he a free man
- Why is he allowed to run for president?
  
  Because this country has a festering fascism problem
  
  Because Russian money has infiltrated The Supremacy Court
  
  blatant corruption that no one's doing anything about
- Bin Laden didn't have shit on how much this guy is a threat to American democracy.
  
  bin laden was an accelerationist and made it much easier for this orange sack of sh*t to, decades later, cleave the insane from a divided and distracted america.
- Corruption, due to the traitor John Roberts and his decision in Citizens United.
- Merrick Garland.
- Because they have managed to subvert the US legal system. Not that the other side made it particularly hard for them.
- Hopefully this time with a competent President in the White House, a proper response will take place to any traitors. Maybe some more of these whackos can become martyrs for agent orange.
- First was not a well planned attack. It was only a trial to see what would happen if they send a mob to the White House.
  
  This time he won't have the advantage of already being in the white house and having the legitimacy of already running the government. I'm sure that will make things harder as well
- I don’t understand why he’s not in prison after being found guilty. What happened to sentencing?
  
  It was delayed till September as the judge needs to look at evidence admitted in the case that may now fall under the Supreme Courts made up presidential immunity ruling. Trump's team is trying to argue that the case should be tossed because evidence of things Trump did while in office were used during the trial (even though the crime started while he was only a candidate and was all admitted into evidence prior to this newly manufactured ruling).
  
  white collar crimes are notoriously lax on criminal punishment when it comes to anything that isn't fines.

Theres one last job Biden needs to get right. A big part of how Trumps last coup attempt got so far was because security was very light that day and the response slow, as trump was still in charge of all of it.
This time Biden will be in charge. Maybe this time he'll take the threat trump poses seriously.
- Agreed, I hope everyone will be diligently watching. It's hard to believe how close we have come (and how close we still are) to have our democracy be in such danger and so many people to not care or actively support it being harmed.

Speaker Johnson will refuse to swear into Congress on January 3rd a handful of those Democrats, claiming there are “irregularities” in their elections that must be first investigated.
There’s nothing Democrats can legally do to stop Speaker Johnson from pulling this off: he can postpone swearing a member in for as long as he wants.
Then, regardless of how many votes Biden won by, electoral or popular, the House simply refuses to certify the electoral college votes of enough states that the minimum of 270 isn’t reached. Under the 12th Amendment, like with the election of 1876, that throws the election to the House, where each state has one vote.
While a majority of Americans live in a state run by Democrats, a majority of the states themselves are run by Republicans. Each state gets one vote for president in the House, and right now 26 state delegations are GOP-controlled, meaning that a majority of the House would simply vote to put Trump back into the White House, 26-23 (Pennsylvania’s delegation is 50/50). All totally legal.
- Then Biden declares martial law and files a lawsuit forcing them to certify the results.
  
  imho, considering the extremely wide range of immunity the supreme court has already given to the executive, Biden would only have to declare the results certified himself - he wouldn't even need to declare martial law, much less file a lawsuit.
  it's fucking deranged, but that's where we're at.
  
  How about the Biden admin declares a few official acts - very precise, such as arresting Johnson and anyone else complicit in such things, as well as those directing such things, and send them all to Gitmo (or given a drumhead court-martial if the admin so chooses). All complicit qons are replaced by Democrats, and life moves on.
- "totally legal" doesn't mean anything at that point. Anyone can declare a coup is legal, but what matters is how everyone else reacts.
- ~~Do you have a source for this? Is this an actual plan they've talked about or is it just a possibility?~~
  Nvm, just saw the comment with the article

The previous crop of insurrectionist losers got treated with kid gloves, so there would be no claim of political retribution. Kamala gets elected, the new ones will face a black woman prosecutor. Do you really want to be on the receiving end of that?
- They'll just paint her as racist against white people - there's always some bullshit spun they can parrot to their drones. But fuck em - they are weak and scared. I've not been this hopeful for the future of America in a hot minute - so I cannot wait to get out there and vote for Madam President Harris.
  
  I mean, actual racism being called out for generations has been habitually and systemically ignored. In the same way, demonstrably false charges can also be ignored.

This man is a terrorist attacking America and so are his voters. They should be treated as such and put in jail.
- Ah yes, let's combine is violent rhetoric with claims of jailing people for committing the crime of...falling for a conman and voting for him.
  That's the spirit.
  
  It may have started as falling for a conman. But at a certain point, you have to ask yourself at what point is each individual responsible for his threats to democracy.
  You either are a willing and active participant or you are willfully ignorant.
  I've met people on both sides of that spectrum and I'll tell you right now, they no longer can claim they fell to his con.
  
  Dude just stated that voting for him is a vote for ending democracy
  Jail for terrorists
  
  They committed a crime. They should go to jail no matter how badly they go kicking and screaming. Who cares what Fox News says about it. Just get the National Guard ready. Why all the games to protect criminals?
  
  says probably a centrist who has ignored every violent rhetoric the right has used for the last decade.

didn't he start shouting "they cheated!!!" months or years before the 2020 election too?
- The moment his polling was behind, just like this.
- He was screaming it was rigged after he won in 2016
  
  And before

This theory has been floating around for months, but doesn't seem to be getting much coverage https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-new-over-the-top-secret-plan-518?sort=new
- Well that's terrifying. The only peaceful way to stop this according to the author:
  The best way to prevent this from happening is to widely publicize their scheme so public opinion will become so intense that they fear the consequences.
  
  Shame that that is literally the best and likely the only recourse we have. Seems like these are huge gaping loopholes we should have closed decades ago.
  
  You are talking about a coup. There are many ways to stop one.

We own the white house this time. If they try this shit again the insurrection should be put down.
- But they control the house... You know the body that counts the electoral votes.
  
  True but Biden is still president and commander in chief until the 20th, I’m sure they plan to spin anything he might do as a coup but it’s a bit different than last time. Still scary shit though
- If they try it this time, there will be deaths, and Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies won't walk away from it. There will be more military there than people and that shit will get shut down instantly.
  
  No there wont. People will do what they did last time: piss and moan, then get on with their distractions.
- I propose the use of Willie Pete if they try anything again.

But I thought the convicted felon was so popular? Why wouldn't he just, uh, win an election?
Also - why not just arrest him right now?

ARREST HIM.

He's literally prepping for a dictatorship, he has all but admitted it.
- all but admitted
  He has stated openly that he would be a dictator, on Dec 7 2023 in a Fox News interview with Sean Hannity.

Cool. Biden is currently President. So there won't be any delays in calling in the National Guard.
How many Ashli Babbitts will it take to put this fascist uprising down?
- That's the part I don't understand.
  He's not in office, so he can't delay any response.
  Hell, if I were Biden, I'd have a plan ready with my cabinet (sec def, sec state, sec home sec), my joint Chiefs of staff, secret service, etc. Also have the governor of Maryland have his Nat Guard ready too.
  Biden himself is safe at the White House. But I would imagine they will be more concerned securing the Capitol building.
  
  You think gop speaker Johnson is even going to call congress into session that day?
  Funny.
- If about 20 of them had been willing to die they could have busted in behind Ashli. Last go round she was the only one interested in taking a bullet for Trump.
  
  She probably had no idea getting shot was a possibility. It wasn't until she got shot that her cohorts realized they were in deep shit.
  
  They only got that far because Trump was in charge and ensured security was soft.
  With Biden in charge, the national guard will almost certainly be ready and waiting, and it won't matter if 20 or 2000 Trumpets are willing to die for him
- On the plus side, if they insist on pushing things to the point where they get mowed down en masse, that's fewer morons and assholes to vote Republican next time

Keep it up orangefuck. Only so many threats before you get taken up on tbem
- I wish I believed that

Yeah he should go all the way. Also, only the most badass alpha maga supporters wear their name, phone number and SSN printed on their shirts in large letters while they do it, completed with some thin blue line flags, a punisher skull, and a no regrats tattoo

The DHS should be planning a "much bigger" response and getting ready to round up and arrest all the perps, from the convicted felon on down to the lowest level chud.

It's a GOOD THING we enact SWIFT Punishment last time a Terrorist sent a Mob of Terrorists to Attack the Capitol!

They arrested hundreds of regular people for J6 but they are somehow powerless to deal with this fuck. Scary how fragile our government truly is.

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