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what exactly am I doing adding deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian sid main to my etc/apt/sources.list? trying to install newest yt-dlp on debian 12.6

All I wanted is to install the current yt-dlp (2024.07.16-1) on debian 12.6.

Suggested way to that according to https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/yt-dlp/download is to add that line to that file (etc/apt/sources.list), but do I really need to download the 1600 files that upgrade would entail?

I don't want to download the tar.gz 'cause upgrading that would be a pain.

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  • Debian sid is their unstable branch; it contains all new packages before they are tested. As such, if you try to install updates from it, you'll likely get a very unstable system.

    You can set it up so that you only get a specific package ( https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#Can_I_use_Sid_packages_on_.22testing.22.3F ), but honestly, if you need the very latest version, I'd recommend just grabbing it from github or wherever. Iirc, yt-dlp has a -U flag which will automatically update it.

  • You're adding the full repository of Debian unstable to your system. This wouldn't just enable you to install yt-dlp but it would also turn your whole system from Debian stable to Debian unstable on the next update. Total overkill for one package.

  • @merompetehla If you're not running sid, do not look for install instructions on the sid page. If you're on 12.6, that's Bookworm (current stable name), look there for help with 12 stuff.

    Best way to use the current #yt-dlp is to uninstall the one from the repo, and grab the current release from the github page and drop it in $PATH somewhere.

  • What you are doing: adding the unstable repository to your Debian system. Debian has three levels of software stability, stable, testing and unstable.

    Stable does what is says on the tin. It’s stable, but older. Testing is gonna be the next major version when it’s deemed stable enough to be called stable. Unstable is for trying out new shit and seeing what breaks. It has the most recent packages and the most problems.

    Stable and testing will be named after different characters from Toy Story, unstable will always be named after the character “Sid” from Toy Story.

    In the context of what you’re trying to do, you are fucking up.

    Yt-dlp can (and should in most cases) update itself by using the command “yt-dlp -U”. But it will only update itself that way if you manually install it from the git page.

    You can do this by downloading it and putting it somewhere in your users $path. This is just like putting a program folder in windows in c:\program files and making a start menu entry manually, except you won’t make the start menu entry because your shell will always look in $path to see if it can run what you just typed. If you’re familiar with Macs, it’s literally like copying the program to your applications directory.

    There’s instructions how to manually install on the yt-dlp git.

    You should do yt-dlp this way unless you have a good reason to use the Debian repos or pip.

    E: once you get yourself straightened out, make sure to add “yt-dlp -U” to all your scripts before they actually run. It keeps you from getting the wrong quality profile or downloads from failing or whatever.

  • Just install it via pip and then symlink its binary file to /usr/bin.

    t. Am running a live stream 24/7 on my orange pi zero 3 (via ffplay/yt-dlp) since forever.

    "Why not simply add $HOME/.local/bin to $PATH?"

    Because it breaks things. While symlinking it does not.

    "Why?"

    No idea, honestly.

    Also, you can take a step further and make a tmpfs partition @ $HOME/.local and then add the following line to your .bash_profile file: TMPDIR=$HOME/.local pip install --break-system-packages -I --no-input yt-dlp &&.

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