A cool guide to Early warning signs of facism
A cool guide to Early warning signs of facism
A cool guide to Early warning signs of facism
It was sold in the gift shop, not on display. I know it’s not an enormous difference, but let’s try our best to keep the misinformation just on their side.
I'm prolly gonna get down arrowed for this but, this correction came off very pedantic to me.
I've noticed in speaking to conservatives, those I assume you meant by "their side", they don't care about fascism.
They don't care to read these 14 points, they don't care about politics, they don't care about accuracy. They care about the narrative.
It's sold in the Holocaust gift shop, while they buy red hats at the MAGA grift shop. The rhetoric is the only game they understand. They won't care if it was displayed.
I do think it’s important to be unassailable, because it’d be easy to say “the libs are making misleading claims” and then people not paying lots of attention will think there’s a “both sides” situation going on. I’m sure we all assumed it was literally on display as an exhibit; I was mislead. If you stick to transparent, honest language, the “both sides” stuff falls apart.
The MAGAs are unreachable, but the poorly-informed are out there too, and making them easier to confuse (by actually also spewing misleading-but-technically-true things) is not a good strategy.
Would a demo version not be on display?
Maybe, but that’s still insincere. When truth is on your side you don’t need to use weasel language.
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I dont think sexism fits, racism/race supremacy does. Emphasis on corporations also don't fit, wouldnt government taking control of them fit more?
Those two aren't mutually exclusive, but as long as the corpos kowtow to the government, they often let their leadership "stay in control" despite the government ultimately calling the shots still.
Sounds like it's the holocaust museum folks you need to argue with about that.
Sexism certainly does. Telling women that their place is in the kitchen and making/raising babies is sexist.
Not at all but its often a trope put out by right wingers. So, I can understand the confusion.
Fascism, at its heart, is corporatism fully realised. Fascism is also just capitalism when you try to say no. Of course, the nazis pretend that X company is nationalised but its profits are all given away to cronies, be it 1930s Germany and italy or 2020s Russia.
Left wing ideology is the community, as a whole, must own both the government and the means of production. Right wing ideology is the opposite of that where the private owns the government and the community as a whole, as if you were wages slaves or cattle.
Umberto Eco, who grew up in fascist Italy and has written extensively on the characteristics of fascism, disagrees with you about the sexism.
no, IDK why so many think the government controls corporations under fascism.
under fascism, historically, business owners largely just became part of the ruling class and helped dictate policy in their favor. (sounds familiar doesn't it)
it's less that the government took control of the business and more that the businesses were let into the government. not to be controlled, but to control and benefit. sure, you had to fall in line with the party, as all people did, but it was more of a power grab by the rich than a dictator controlling them. falling in line just meant going on stage to publicly declare support for the party and condemnation for their enemies. remember, fascism is all about showing off and being the big macho man. it's about looking the party more than feeling and being it.
if the government took over businesses under fascism German and Italian companies would be very very different today. as it stands, they either benefitted or got burned down.
No, fascism has no religion and government intertwining and corporate power is not protected under fascism, because fascists want everything under government control, which includes corporations as well. Most of the points are correct, but I feel this is a bit biased and overall trying to project current issues through nazism; both are bad, but I think it's very important to make the distinction. Know your enemy.
Most fascist dictatorships have had large privatizations and all have favored corporations in economic policy. You act like business-state collaboration under fascism was unique to the nazis, but it was also central to fascist Italy, Francoist Spain, and right-wing dictatorships like those of Pinochet or the military in Brazil.
Fascism happens when capitalism is in crisis because it’s better for the corporations than socialism would be. Both Italy and Germany had strong socialist movements in the years before fascists came to power, and fascists are consistently funded by a business community that fears losing everything it has. The fascist emphasis on the state, nationalism, and war, is only because it’s required to suppress organized labor.
i believe you're thinking of authoritarian communism, like north Korea or the ussr.
all examples of historic fascism had very strong corporations that were heavily subsidized by the government. like Nazi Germany and fascist Italy.
now, we've never really seen a true fascists state outside of wartime, but that might be kind of the point of fascism. they must always be in wartime.
You mistook Fascism for Nazism. Especially flag is a Nazi symbol
And you know what that bundle of sticks is called in Latin? Fascis. That's where the name comes from.
Also, nationalsocialism is just one of plenty forms of fascism. It's an umbrella term. And arguing that a poster warns of the wrong sect of genocidal nationalist dictatorship, is just absolutely beyond any kind brain rot.
bundle of sticks is called in Latin? Fascis
Yes, what about it?
Also, nationalsocialism is just one of plenty forms of fascism
National Socialism was in Germany, perpetrated by Hitler, Fascism was in Italy, perpetrated by Mussolini. Every semi decent historian will tell you that
You might find this seminal essay on Fascism interesting.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism
You’ll have to notice that the image in the post replaces “traditionalism” with “nationalism”.
This was the essay I was going to post. It's very good.
Human rights under biden are so great. He's pretty much blown all the potential human rights issues in Palestine.
You're right. By that single, solitary metric he's not much better than Trump. Luckily most folks realize that leaves a lot of other facets to consider.
Imagine seeing 100,000+ innocent lives as a single solitary metric. The amount of heartless brainwashed simping for a guy that can barely string together a coherent sentence is incredible.
does ANYONE outside of hexbear not ridicule you? this bIdEnBaD argument was weak and pointless the first time some tankie sharted it out of his face anus.
what do you think is going to happen to palestine if trump wins? because you can bet all your CCCP flags that it'll be exponentially worse than whatever's happening with biden
Yes, I totally get that you imagine that Trump will be worse. In reality, the only evidence we have is that biden is absolutely awful and has the blood of many thousands of children are on his hands. I get that you don't count them as humans because they speak a funny language and are too dark for you, but the whole world isn't a self-centered child stuck in their own little bubble.