Former Uvalde school police chief, officer indicted in 1st-ever criminal charges over failed response to 2022 mass shooting

- That image is so emotionally appropriate.
  
  We’re all Kylo Ren on this blessed day

The two officers face felony charges of abandoning and endangering a child[.]
- Everyone owes it themselves to watch the PBS Frontline documentary on the Uvalde response.
  Cowardice, gross negligence, and outrageous incompetence.
  The only people I had respect for was the BORTAC team that showed up and got the shit going and actually made entry into the room.
  
  Don't forget about the parents who tried to enter the school but were stopped by said cowards.
  
  https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/inside-the-uvalde-response/

Time for every police union in the country to side with the cowards who enabled the murder of children.
- I work in municipal government, and this is the one national case where I haven't seen any of the police defending the PD. They're all like "fuck those guys. They let kids die to limit liability insurance rates."
- Unions should always back the due process rights of their members....
  Of all the things to shit on Police Unions for, this one actually requires a conviction to be valid.
  Until then, it is every union's moral and ethic obligation to support their members as they go through the legal process.
  
  Unions should always back the due process rights of their members....
  That's not what's being talked about and you know it.
  
  Unions are supposed to protect the powerless.
  From my perspective, the police union wouldn't be especially different from a corporate executives' union.
  
  If all unions were equal, then sure. But many are corrupted or are run by corrupt people.

Dude FUCK HIM UP
I can’t even imagine being outside the school for over an hour with the cops actively preventing me from going in and getting my spouse or child out, getting pepper sprayed and handcuffed, and then at the end of it finding out they were inside slowly dying of a gunshot wound the entire time. I am legitimately confused about how none of the cops involved in that have not been vigilante’d.
If every single one of them get felonies with long prison sentences, they should count themselves lucky as hell that their community is for whatever reason being so forgiving about it.
- I am legitimately confused about how none of the cops involved in that have not been vigilante’d.
  I also think about this a lot. There's like a mass shooting every day but it's never cops, politicians, billionaires.
  
  Cops shoot back, and they protect the other two groups. They're cowards, but cowards will still fire blindly when they're directly in danger.

Wasn’t it already decided that police are not obliged to help anyone? How can this go anywhere?
- Even if it's just a gesture, those people deserve more than they got.
- Generally speaking, any person can take anyone to court for any reason, and any prosecutor can charge anyone for any reason.
  Once it gets to court is where the “but your honor the Supreme Court said X Y Z” comes into it. And in a lot of cases that’ll get you off, and in a lot of cases that will mean the prosecutor won’t even try because the law is so clear that it would just be a waste of everyone’s time to make the attempt. But, the circumstances of the case and a compelling counter argument can make that not the only outcome, and the judge and jury have a lot of leeway up to and including “hey you know what I think the Supreme Court got it wrong as hell in this case, guilty guilty guilty.”
  When it’s fairly applied (which is, certainly, not even close to all the time) it’s actually a very good system.
  
  Precedents get overturned from time to time, and the way that generally happens is when a new case comes along challenging that precedent.
  Maybe this goes nowhere. Maybe a conviction gets overturned on appeal. But maybe we could see a new precedent set. Might as well try, you're probably not going to find a better case to do it any time soon.
- Even if it did, it's Texas. They’d get pardoned by Abbot or some other insane bs.
- Yeah this has already been litigated over and over, police have no obligation to protect or serve
  Edit: Spelling
  
  But they forcibly prevented the parents from protecting their own children. It's fine to say you won't protect and serve but by preventing the parents from going in should be some degree of murder. How the fuck could good Samaritan laws work if the people are required to act.
  
  Which means that every single time you see police protecting nazis, it's because they chose to. Uvalde was police showing us who they don't want to protect.
- They did go out of their way to stop parents from doing something.

I'm not usually 'tough on crime' In this case tho?
Let's see em fry

Finally!

Yaasss, forcing law enforcement to “do their job” or go to jail sounds like a great idea!
- Why the scare quotes?

- I wouldn't be terribly shocked if a caveat was made for this kind of action. When you consider not just the inaction but them prohibiting parents from intervening you have materially different facts.
  I don't see a massive change coming but perhaps a narrowly tailored ruling.
  
  You're 100% right. The supreme Court ruled on the duty to protect and on qualified immunity, the only way the state could get a verdict is if it's very narrowly tailored to either "extremely egregious and inhumane behavior" or for "stopping the parents". There's no other way for a judge to make a guilty verdict and at the same time make it appeal-proof to some degree.
  And we just gotta hope and pray this gets through and doesn't get overturned.

and certainly the worst officer-involved response to a mass shooting in our nation’s history.
Actually I think the Kent state massacre takes that title, sorry
- Reread the sentence you quoted carefully. The Kent State Massacre was not a response to a mass shooting. So no, it doesn't take that title.
  
  Lol the police declared martial law for 10 days after the shooting and justified this with the lie that the national guard was shot at by snipers!