Vegans of Lemmy, would you eat lab-grown meat?

I would not mind eating lab grown and I think it is great if people would eat that instead but ive been vegan for so long that i have no interest in meat. I hardly eat mock meats, its only in social situations to not stand out to much.

I don't have any ethical issues with it, I just don't find meat appetizing anymore. I'm all for having the option for people who want it though.

It's a lot of effort to solve an issue that's already solved by being vegan so eh, I'm pretty indifferent to it at least at face value. If it can compete with a vegan diet in terms of climate and ecosystem impact then I'll support it but I've no interest in it personally. I don't really have any justification for not being interested, I'm just not.

I'd be much more interested in seeing artificial cheese made from proteins created by yeast or bacteria tbh.

My ethics and my mouth think it's a great idea.

But I feel like my intestines would complain a LOT.

Vegetarian here. It's not something I'd personally buy or use in meals, as I don't really have the desire to eat meat. That said, if it happened to be in a dish I really want to try at a restaurant, sure I'd eat it.

No, I dont like the taste or texture

It would depend how this lab grown meat affects the environment or who produces it, how, what price it is.... I'm not opposed to it, just need to see the details.

I've been vegetarian my whole life and vegan for ~4 years or so, and I would definitely eat lab grown meat (assuming the conditions you stated).

I almost certainly wouldn't eat it often but there is sooo many cultural dishes I haven't ever tried due to them containing meat, which I would love to try sometime.

Admittedly I expect that most things I would not end up liking, but the ability to try would be really nice.

Vegetarian not vegan, but I wouldn't really have an issue if ethical. Nutrition is another matter to consider.

I don't eat meat because it causes suffering in another. Plants have no concept of pain without a brain, nervous system or even nerve endings. So to me, the question becomes if the lab grown meat was ever attached to a brain that could feel suffering.

Now as far i understand it, lab grown meat isn't nessecarily grown in isolation from a cow. But in a solution primarily compromised of blood extracted from living cows. That's without question better than killing a creature, buuuuuuut we all know that when profits are involved the health of a animal is not prioritized.

So it really depends, while I don't miss meat, once lab grown becomes widely available I'll make my choice depending on the exact process of how it reached the grocery store.

Let's take this a step farther.

Would you eat human meat that was grown in a lab, if you could know for certain that the cells that were used to form the cultures were harvested from a consenting adult that was duly compensated? What if that person not only had consented, but wanted to be eaten, because they had a vore fetish, and enjoyed the thought of people eating pieces of them?

No, I think it's a good idea but I'm fine with plant based alts. I think it's a lot better than having to kill animals for food but still seems like a lot of extr steps when you can just eat plants and stuff mad from plants without requiring a biological reactor, and lab. I would also assume that the process requires at least some more energy or resorces than regular food processing methods. So it wouldn't win any points on that front. I was raised vegan for context, so I've never actually tasted real meat and don't see any reason to try it now, lab grown or not.

If it's not wasteful/polluting to produce it, I don't see why not

Extracting the stem cells may or may not cause harm to animals. If it is extracted from a live animal then it would cause harm and stress to an animal.

The medium used for growing may not be vegan (like FSB which is extracted from an animals death). But reportedly companies are moving to cheaper, plant-based, mediums.

Even if the process caused no harm or stress to animals, I'm not sure i would eat lab grown meat. I've already completely replaced meat in my cooking, and learned how to make much more nutrious meals. Adding meat back in would be regressive. Not to mention i feel like lab grown meat in particular will have been made possible through animal suffering research. While I'm glad it will have potential to be a net positive in the long run, i personally don't feel the desire to support lab grown meat

Fwiw my wife had a long period of being vegetarian primarily because she doesn't like the taste of beef. So that reasoning does occur as well. She's not vegetarian any more but mostly keeps to chicken due to the taste

I would not trust anyone who tells me it's lab grown. I've had so many restaurants and people lie to me that someone ws vegan, out of malice and out of incompetence, that I just would not believe that a burger was "lab grown" instead of made with cheap meat leftovers.

If somehow I I could assure that it was made without animals being hurt, maybe. Meat is unhealthy so I would still mostly avoid it.

Only for fish/eggs/dairy. I've never really liked pork or beef.

10-year vegan here , 20-year veg. My answer is no no no.

Other than the taste and what it represents, there is far better food to eat which is grown outside than animal flesh.. grown inside a lab no less.

Nah, the stuff I am cooking without meat tastes better anyways.

I'm a vegetarian, and the answer is no. I find the idea of vat-grown meat disgusting, like something out of a bio-mechanical nightmare.

I’m a lazy vegan. I intend to stop eating animal meat as soon as cultured meat is viable. Maybe opportunistic vegan is the term?

I would not east lab grown meat. At this point meat grosses me out, and vegan protein is already very tasty.

I think lab grown meat mostly appeals to meat eaters who recognise that eating meat is wrong but don't have the discipline to go vegetarian/vegan.

Personally I think it's still kind of gross. I wouldn't judge anyone else for eating it though. It's gotta be less harmful to the environment and animals than full strength meat. Right? It is less harmful isn't it? Guys?

Yeeeah, it's not going to be environmentally friendly, probably the opposite. In the lab grown meat discussions people seem to forget how incredibly efficient cows are at converting biomass to muscle.

For lab grown meat you'd need a circulation system that can reach all parts of the meat and provide it with enough nutrients, proteins, supplements and all that while also removing by-products such as ammonia that result from chemical processes in the cells.

So you'll end up needing a circulation system, immune system, bones for the meat to not get crushed by it's own weight ideally, recycling system like the liver and logistical system to back everything up, and that's assuming the whole process will be energy efficient.

Adding a brain to it makes essentially gives you all parts of a cow except the cow can largely produce the meat without any oversight and will do all the nutrient differential equations automatically.

We're still decades away from being able to scale this up while being within the same order of magnitude in cost. It's far easier to do a decade of chemistry and biology on textured soy meat to perfectly replicate the flavor, texture and nutrient profile of cow meat. This shouldn't come as a shock since plants are more efficient than animals in creating protein.

I'm personally hoping for genetically modified soy beans that have good amount of the amino acid leucine which is lacking in most plant protein.

Sidenote: We are close to fixing the methane emissions of cows by feeding them a supplement mixed with the feed.

Why not celebrity meat?

As a vegan, I would not eat lab grown meat.

It's mainly a texture/concept thing, my food needs to be safe from disembodied muscle, fat, skin, cartilage, bone, minced meat containing the combined flesh of thousands of raped and tortured carcasses, the faecal matter and bacterial colonies all meat is covered with, and the horrifying possibility of meat containing hidden cysts full of pus, bits of hair, teeth, genitals, eyeballs, parasites, tumours, zoonotic diseases, prions, etc.

Lab grown flesh would hopefully be exponentially cleaner, and far less problematic than the current rape torture factories and abattoir system, but I will never be able to thematically seperate labgrown meat from what meat currently is, not enough to be able to put it in my mouth and chew it anyway.

Also, all sentient life (as we know it) is made of flesh. Lab growing billions of disembodied chunks from a handful of sentient animals? There is still deep horror to this. Granted it's on a completely different scale to the current system of livestock atrocities, but it's still horrifying none the less.