7mo ago

Seeing this stuff makes me physically sick tbh

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Absolutely 100% agreed. The organizers of the Palestinian protest should have kicked them out.
Not only is this despicable, it dilutes the very important effort of raising awareness of what Israel is doing in Gaza.
- Paid actors?
  
  Dunno. There's idiots everywhere.
  
  Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity

Anti-zionism is not antisemitism.
- "kill the Jews" and "death to the Jews" are antisemitic not anti Zionists. JFC
  
  Solid attempt at pretending to miss the point.
- Yes it is, and its a smokescreen to say it is not.
  Your downvotes doesn't make your racism not exist. Mobs always think they're right. Fuck all of you.
  
  Do you care to back up your claim at all or are you just going to go with "these two distinct words with distinct definitions actually mean the same thing because I said so" the same way TERFs and transphobes talk about sex and gender?
  Is it possible to support the black community in America without supporting black separatism?
  
  Saying an imperialist Jewish ethno-state is bad is the same as saying Jews are bad!
  Yeah, you're not real bright.
  
  🤓
  
  It can be but it isn't necessary. I am a Jew and not a Zionist. Obviously the example above is anti simetic, but there are peaceful (but depending on your views perhaps tenuous) arguments against the state of Israel

Genocide is bad. Racism is bad. Mmmmkay.
- That's all that should need to be said.
  I don't care who's genociding, it's wrong
  I don't care who's the racist, it's wrong
  I don't care for their reasoning or defenses, they are wrong regardless.
  Tolerate neither, ever

Uh, who's standing for either one of those besides fucking shitheads?

We don't stand for this, the bottom picture are 2 graffiti made by people who we don't know, or when they were made, and 2 protestors with anti-Israel posters, not anti-Semitic. The wide movement of protests are absolutely not anti-Semitic, and you trying to post shit like this conflating anti-zionism with anti-Semitism is disgusting
- The star of David makes the posters ambiguous they could refer to either Israel or Jews. The grafitti in the images is explicitly antisemitic. Splitting hairs over this is pretty gross imo. I don't like crticiism of Israel being called antisemitic, but that doesn't make antisemitism suddenly ok
  
  Dude, nobody is saying the graffiti is not anti-Semitic, it literally says "kill the jews", how on earth would that not be antisemitic. I'm saying they're putting the graffiti on top of protestors in an obvious attempt to conflate antizionist protests with antisemitism

Are you implying there are people who didn't stand for the first image and might stand for the second?

They’re the same picture

Yeah... I can denounce nazis while and at the same time denounce what Israel is doing in Gaza with a clear conscience.
I think you are mixing up the Star of David with the Israeli flag, which has the star on it.
Edit: I didn't notice the 2 smaller photos, that shit is unacceptable.
- The others ones are also iffy. Talking about the abolishement of a jewish state while using the phrase "the final solution" is just bad.

In my opinion leftists should create a Zionist symbol to separate Israel(the state) from Jewish people.
If they can convey the separation of the two for normies that would help their rhetoric game massively. (Israel ≠ Jewish people)
I stand by all effort to deny fascists the luxury of an effective narrative (Israel=Jewish people)
- I mean the girl with the poster with the trash bin clearly put the Israeli flag in it, not just the star of David. If that's going to be called antisemetic then there's no symbol you can really use without getting called antisemetic for it.
  
  yeah and the other protest one has the american flag in the middle so it to points to governments. I mean the graffitti at the top is not necessarily related to protests at all. You can always find shitty graffiti. Im sure I could walk around the city and within an hour find something with removed written somewhere.
- There is no symbol that can realistically do this. The symbol is just the vessel, and it's subject to change. Defund the police, turns into, well, the police just need more training, turns into, well the police are underfunded, turns into, fund the police. There's not like, a way by which you can easily meme your way out of it, because it's just what happens. The best defense has always just been a kind of moving target.
- I vote for Israeli Flag with a swastika in the middle. Or is that a little unsubtle?
- Huh? The flag of Israel already does not mean all Jews. It's a state, not an ethnicity or religion
- I concur. It would help combat the default response of "yOu'Re An AnTiSeMiTe!" to any criticism of Israels policies or its shithead leaders.

Um, we don't?

You can not guarantee that there will be no idiots at a public protest. But if the organisers are aware of them being present and do nothing, they should be judged accordingly.

As I keep saying.
If you accuse those against Israel as being antisemitic, you're gonna make more of them actually antisemitic

Well yeah, antisemitism is antisemitism. Antisemites can and should fuck off, and we should aid them in that process.

Of course. Shouldn't need to be said, but here we are

Jews should not be faced with Antisemitism

Op is totally not a propagandist. Just memes he likes

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