7mo ago

Mandela effect?

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Ver- words are often green because of Latin. "Verde" in Italian, "Vert" in French, "Verdant" in English
- Yeah, except for vermilion which comes from latin vermis and means worm.
  
  Vermillion is such a pretty word to mean worm colored...
  I guess a worm can be cute if you give it a bow to wear.
  
  Same as vermicelli. Pasta that looks like vermin/worms.
- Also "verde" in Portuguese, but red is "vermelho"
- Verd/vert is the prefix. You can’t just cut off the last letter.
  
  Verily.
- Yeah and million is for dollars which is green.
- in portuguese vermelho is red tho lol

Probably because it's similar to verde
- Much more similar to "vermelho" which is "red" in Portuguese
  
  Vermiglio is also red in italian, maybe verdaccio
- Yup. My first thought, "Because it sounds like verdant."
- That seems to be the verdict so far
  
  Yes, verde good.
- I thought "She must be french. It does start like vert".
- Also sounds like chameleon, which are most commonly pictured in green.

naw, its the french poisoning your mind
green in french is vert
- For those of us in the US, we're more likely to encounter the Spanish "verde."
  
  Given most of the US population lives between Massachusetts and Florida (so would likely have more of French exposure via English and history) , and the French influence in lots of English, it's a toss up.
  I certainly learned the French vert long before the Spanish verde.
- We also have "vermeille" in French

No mention of viridian, a blueish green, in these comments, I see.
- Viridian sounds like it should be a red
  
  Viridian sounds like a character in a YA fantasy novel.
  
  Ah, then you might be thinking of vermillion, which is an orangey red.
- My favourite letter is V. This is likely as a result of one of my favourite childhood games; VVVVVV. Main protagonist?
  Captain Viridian.
  I could never forget about the existence of the best alternative to turquoise.
  
  Childhood? Surely not, VVVVVV came out in 2010. That was basically yesterday.
- Veridian Dynamics we can even make radishes so spicy that people can't eat them, but we're not because people can't eat them, Veridian Dynamics, Food. Yum.
  Spelled different, but seemed relevant.
  
  I looked up "veridian" and found out it's spelt "viridian" so maybe that's the true Mandela effect at play here!
- Yeah, I was going to say it might be because people associate it with veridian, but I'm late to the party.

colorblind people are like, "yeah, totally."
- Can colourblind people not see the words either?
  
  this is what colorblind people see every day

Vermillion being red fucks a lot of millennials up who grew up watching Pokemon.
Vermillion city not being a shade of yellow is the standout because it hosts the Electric Gym (yellow themed). Every other city's gym is related to the town color.
- Gotta respect the spoiler warning for a game/show that's almost 30 years old
  
  I just hate long posts. People may not wanna read allat
- Fun fact: apparently vermillion is actually made from cinnabar, so there's no reason why Vermillion City shouldn't have been located on Cinnabar Island.
  
  I want a refund this s*** is unplayable
- Can confirm. Also, Veridian being a shade of green doesn't help.

Verde
- Vermelho
  Edit: I've just read other comments offering more explanation than I did, but vermelho means red in Portuguese
  
  Encarnado
- Werd

It's because the ver looks like vert which is the french word for green
Vermont is derived from Green Mountain
So vermilion looks like it could mean a green million, which sounds like a funny way to say a million dollars.
- Verde is also green in Spanish. A quick translation tells me that in Latin it's Viridis which makes it make sense that it's similar in most Latin based languages.
  
  A fancy word for green in English is Viridian
  
  Vermillion also comes from Latin, Vermiculus. Mainly used in Portuguese as vermelho for red.
- I guess green just has that veeerrrr kind of vibe.

It took me years to even realize Vermilion, Viridian, and Cerulean are hues of colour, not just cities in Kanto.
- All of the cities and towns in Kanto are hues which is why the starter town is called Pallet Town :)
- I'm learning it just now reading this comment!

I won’t let this build up inside of me
- Let it all out

In Portuguese "vermelho" is red
- I always feel like Portuguese is the romance language that hated their parents and refused to participate in any family activities. Like Latin is in the front seat yelling back "Cur non eritis sicut sorores tuae!" and Portuguese is in the way back going, "Pare de tentar controlar quem eu sou!"
  
  Portuguese is what happens when you let a bunch of drunk sailors create their own language.
  
  I've heard it sounds like someone with a Slavic accent speaking Spanish
- Aw, came here to say that and got beaten to the punch. Damn you, fast Portuguese speakers.

I feel the same sort of way about chartreuse. Can we just switch them?
- Chartreuse is literally named after the green French liquor.
  It's my favorite alcohol, and the color is amazing.
  I will not accept this blasphemy
  
  "a drink so good they named a colour after it"
  Name comes from... Well, there's extra steps involved.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartreuse_(liqueur)
  
  Chartreuse is my favorite color! >:| this is blasphemy
- Wait isn't chartreuse a board with cheese and meats?
  
  You’re thinking of Chantilly. A chartreuse is a lady cartographer.

Red and green should trade vermillion for chartreuse.
- THANK YOU Chartreuse is the one I feel like should be a red.
  
  I wonder if the mental association is due to people thinking of French colours:
  Verte=Green, looks vaguely like vertemilloon
  Rouge=Red, looks vaguely like Charterouge
- Chartreuse is named after the liquour which is named after the monastary which is named after the mountains which is named after the village which is of ambiguous origin but likely named from a Gaulish tribe. So you're gonna have to rewrite an awful lot of history if you want to come after chartreuse.
  
  I, for one, am willing to make this sacrifice. Specifically to say it's worth it for someone to rewrite a lot of history; I've got a thing going on so I can't volunteer for that even though I really want to darn.
- Chartreuse is named after a liqueur, not after wine. It's literally green.
  
  And vermillion comes from Kermes vermilio, a red insect used to make the pigment. What's your point?
- This is my platform when I run for public office.
- Eh the chartreuse is originally the name of the mountain and it's got green trees on it 🤷
  
  It's named after the liquour, if you follow the chain of naming it goes beyond the mountains regardless but the color is named after the color of the liquour, not the colour of the mountains.

I wish it was not a color at all. It should be a number.
- Right after freemillion
- Ver= green. Million= monayyyy

Because "vert" is the French word for green.

How to start a fight with an etymologist...
- Just tell them that beetles are stupid
  
  Hahaha hahaha, fine, dammit, take my upvote, DAD

Isn't it yellow? 🤔 I vaguely remember Vermillion Town in Pokemon being yellow when played on a GBC. I've always associated it with yellow because of that.
- Ahaha I found my generation-ish of people. Fantastic. I always liked the way you guys generally speak; guess this is why.
  Pokémon was awesome.
- Which generation? Cause in the OG games (other than Yellow), every town was a shade of either red or blue (depending on which version you had). The only town that was the same color as its name was Lavender Town IIRC.
  
  All of the towns for me were black and white...
  I was still rocking a Gameboy Pocket.
  
  I never had red or blue; I had Yellow. My first gameboy was the Pikachu GBC that came with the game.
- Yeah I always thought of vermilion as yellow too.
  I thought that cinnabar was red.
  
  Cinnabar is a red pigment. Quite toxic, so not really in use any more.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnabar

Vermillion (or more precisely vermillion) is the name of a fruit fly (Drosophila) mutant with bright red eyes (as opposed to wild type, which has brick red eyes). I always knew my genetics PhD would come into handy one day.

I have a fictional scenario I invented where a blind man is completely confused that “maroon” is a shade of red, not blue, given that it relates to the sea.

No, it's yellow like Electric type.
- Literally my thought.

Its because people confuse it for Viridian. I used to oil paint so these things sound similar.

i thought it was like a billion rats ...
- It's clearly a million the word is right there.
  
  well people also thought it meant green. and look what happened to them

Sounds like a Tolkien book to me.

As soon as I found out that Vermillion was red, the name of the tavern from Hello From The Magic Tavern made a lot more sense

I think you're having a Mengele Effect about the Mandela Effect
- Well that can't be a good thing
- I should go.
  
  This better not be cats...

Vert means green in french (the t is silent)
- I was first exposed to the word from pokemon red/blue on the OG Gameboy, grayscale and all, and I think that's why I associate it with green, latin root word. Vermillion City, Ver... de?
- This is exactly why vermilion gets me every time.

There's a wonderful game I played called crosscode, and one of the areas is called "Vermillion Wastelands" and everything is red. Also that's the first time I heard the word so can't relate
- Bro, you never played pokemon?
  
  I THINK THIS IS WHY I THINK VERMILLION IS GREEN.
  
  Interestingly, vermilion (the pigment) is made from cinnabar, which is another location name in Kanto.
  
  Oh Yeah. As a kid I never actually knew how to pronounce the word.
  
  I've only played a couple, like sapphire and black/white. Never played the one that's from

Verdant, verde, vermilion.

I would be happy for it to switch places with Chartreuse, which feels strongly like a red word and is definitely not a bright yellow-green
- Completely agree, came here to say this.

Chameleons are green. Verde is green. Vermillion is green 100%
- Chameleons are green
  So, like, chameleons do this thing, right, where they don't feel like being green for a bit =P
  So I guess Vermillion is green maybe 90% of the time

Chartreuse as well tbh, just the other way around.
- You just need to drink more fancy alcohol and associate it with the liqueur it's named after.

I'm finding this out now from this post.
When people named flowers as 'Vermillion' I assumed the stems and leaves were some weird shade that I wasn't recognizing.
- That's because you're a dog, and we can't see red.
  I mean, they, you, can't see red.
- I had a hard time reading the post since I thought vermillion was green so it took a couple tries

I played too much "Sword of Vermilion" on Sega Genesis to have this particular issue.

For me, this word is associated with red

Viridian, vermilion, and verdigris. That’s why it feels green.

I first learned the word from the Vermilion Flycatcher, which is a bright red bird

mandala effect
- Or maybe deuteranopia

I feel the same way about cyan. It should be a shade of red damnit!
- as a graphic designer this feels super wrong. especially since it's the exact opposite of red.

No no no, it's yellow because Pokemon.

Maybe you feel that way because green vermin are seen as ill

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