What a load of absolute horseshit that speech was.
"We'd be well served to remember the long and cherished tradition we have in this country of settling our political differences at the ballot box. For nearly two and a half centuries our nations elected officials have properly resisted the temptation to oppose their political rivals through the weaponization of our justice system".
First of all plenty of Congresspeople, Senators, Governors and lower politicians have been tried, and sometimes convicted, for crimes before. So he's full of shit on that point. Second Republicans did endless investigations of Hillary Clinton and found no law breaking, but they definitely tried their hardest. Third although every President since at least since Eisenhower has been guilty of war crimes Trump is the first to do garden variety white collar crimes. Of course he's the first to be charged with them! Fuck this guy.
They only care about the law when attempting g to apply it to others, but get upset when it’s applied to themselves.
I think politicians have always said whatever suits them at the moment, but the absurd and immediate public hypocrisy these days is just incredible. It’s not even couched in subtlety, it’s immediate and in your face.
It’s rare, but it happens. They’re consenting adults.
E: look, I’m not a fan of this age gap, but everyone’s making up rules about what’s acceptable. Either they’re adults or not, 18 is the cutoff, and if no grooming was involved you can dislike it all you want but they’re still adults.
E2: looks like they met when she was under age. So, no…this doesn’t work right at all.
Rose and his wife Chelsea (née Doss) married in January 2011.[30] At the time, he was 45 and she was 21. He met her when she was 17.[31] They live in Cookeville, Tennessee, with their two sons. [6]
Doesn't say when they started dating.
I will agree that it's case by case, but if he started grooming her at 17 it's grooming.
Grooming doesn't always relate to age or age gap either. If a man is a teacher or leader at church camp or something, some position of authority it can go beyond the age of consent and still be considered grooming.
I'm a huge fan of the "half your age plus seven" rule. Even if it's legal (assuming no grooming prior) it's still pretty creepy. Especially since that's the age you marry - presumably you've been together for a bit before that too.
I'll join in and say you're right. Policing morally "wrong" but legal acts is a very conservative way of doing things. You can point to dozens of activities that conservatives decry as "immoral" or "sinful" yet are legal and nobody cares what they think, but when it's two adults who get married with a large age gap suddenly everyone wants to be moral guardians. Two consenting adults can make a legal choice, and anything more than that is nobody's business.
That said, in this particular case, this dude met his wife when she was still in high school. He absolutely groomed her.
but everyone’s making up rules about what’s acceptable.
The hypocrisy for me is that folks want to dictate what is "morally acceptable" while objecting to other people's wanting to dictate what is "morally acceptable". In this case, and it all too common with Republicans generally, he did apparently groom her from a young age. But we can make a judgement based on that fact, not the fact of the age differential.
If counter with:
"We'd be well served to remember the long and cherished tradition of settling criminal matters in the courts."
Basically they want the right to commit crimes without consequences beyond the possibility of simply not being re-elected.... But only for Republican politicians. Democrats should be treated differently.