Sen. Lindsey Graham Suggests Nuking Gaza, Calls Hiroshima ‘the Right Decision’
Sen. Lindsey Graham Suggests Nuking Gaza, Calls Hiroshima ‘the Right Decision’
“So when we were faced with destruction as a nation after Pearl Harbor...."
The US was never faced with destruction during World War II.
People like Graham are oblivious to the huge opportunity WWII gave us to dominate markets because Europe and Asia had been destroyed. They think it was American Exceptionalism all the way. Their inability to grasp this is why they are ineffective at leading now that other nations have caught up.
Obviously you haven't seen that fine documentary The Man in the High Castle.
Or the one about a post-Trump presidency, The Handmaiden’s Tale
It's very hard for people (well, neurotypical people) to understand what real destruction means when that contests their system of considering themselves (and their friends, their country etc) very cool.
Most of those advocating for bombing cities and big wars would turn into whining piss-smelling sacks of shaking meat the moment they meet one person not weaker than them angry at them in a back alley.
I mean, yes and no. Pearl harbor wasn't the only place hit 12/7. Philipines, Guam and Wake were all hit as well
Hong Kong and Singapore were also attacked and the empire invaded Malaysia.
America took a sharp hit square in the face, but Britain got sent home in a body bag at the end of 1941. By Feb 1942 the UK had lost all of Malaysia, lost Hong Kong and lost Singapore. They lost 12,000 troops, the rest surrendering. Zero soldiers made it home. Out of 120,000. Australia and New Zealand were in extreme danger and the Raj was expecting assault at any moment. I'm the spam of a few months Japan had sunsetted the largest empire the world had ever seen.
America had never been pit against such an enemy. You have to take all of WW2 into that context. Fuck in WW1 they played soccer across no-man's-land on Christmas. The next year the Canadians had arrived and...well...I'm not saying shit about canuckistani military just that over half of the geneva convention exists because of Canada.
He can make both those statements. He should absolutely not be comparing them.
The decision to nuke japan was based on factors entirely different than any possible factor to nuke gaza.
In any sane world, senators suggesting dropping war crimes all over another country would be immediately removed
This is an interpretation of what happened. It's the one that paints America in the most favourable light, for sure.
Another one is that the "no surrender" mentality was a direct result of the terms of the Potsdam Declaration which demanded "unconditional surrender" from Japan. Japan knew they had lost, they were just hoping to fight for the SPECIFIC surrender condition of the preservation of the Imperial line (aka, let the Emporer still be the Emporer, preserve the family).
Had the Potsdam Declaration permitted that concession, it very well may have been the case that no nukes would have been necessary.
Anyways: tough to understand the exact truth of any hypothetical situation. I just think it's unfortunate that the "The USA HAD to, though" argument is so often repeated without a very full context of the surrounding political realities. It's a very bite sized explanation, and it paints the USA in a fantastic light. It's perhaps not a coincidence that it was AT Potsdam that the west hinted to Stalin of the existence of the nuclear bomb.
What's the point of building the thing if you can't prove to the world you have it, and are willing to use it?
Imagine how much better the world would be if there was just a simple process of psychological screening for would-be politicians, and psychopaths were barred from holding office.
There is already, it's the electoral process. But it selects for these people to hold office rather than bars them. It bars normal people.
Better screen for sociopaths too.
Casually arguing for breaking the taboo on using nuclear weapons.
Forget Gaza, this is how human civilization ends.
We have been saying that Israel is a moral and legal hazard to the entire world as it rallied its allies to throw out all resemblance of a rule based international order recognizing such basic human rights like not being slaughtered and having access to basic food, water and medicine.
So is Turkey.
But the guilt for colonialism and belligerent Christianity apparently lies so heavy on Westerners, that they are ready to absolve it with the blood of Christians never involved in those.
It's an especially disgusting kind of virtue signalling to combine being against Israel, but for Turkey and Azerbaijan.
This should disqualify him from ever holding office again. I know it won't, but it should.
You mean it should lock him behind bars for life.
Ya know, if post Civil War reconstruction had actually happened and we'd de-confederated the South like we de-nazi'd Germany and Japan the GOP wouldnt exist today.
Well, kinda, since the parties swapped roles in the Southern Strategy as a response to the civil rights movements, back then the democrats were the overtly racist ones. So we could assume the GOP would still exist but it would look nothing like the "modern" (hah) version.
We didn't de-nazify Germany. We put Nazi officers in charge of NATO and we joined the Catholic Church in protecting Nazis and distributing them all over the world.
Relevant:
Ahh yes, dropping nuclear weapons right next door, risking fallout in your own territory and pissing off every country around you, as well as all your allies. Why not?
How dare you question the blinding brilliance that is Lindsey? I'm sure his masterplan accounts for things like inciting a global nuclear war with some clever solution that isn't just waiting it out in a congressional bunker with all his cowardly friends while we all die horribly, right?
indeed, the bunker has been upgraded to a SpaceX satellite mesh hotel.
Israel wouldn’t do that. They want to give the beachfront property to American politicians as a “gift that’s totally not a bribe”
Would be such a shame if a stray rocket hit Ted Cruz's beachfront house while he's on vacation 🙈
How is it even legal to call for the murder of so many people using one of the most atrocious weapons humanity has invented....but if one were to suggest to apply a guillotine to this person for doing so, they would be in severe legal trouble?
Same way you can say guillotine the rich but not kill Jeffy Bezos
One is seen as more direct, even though the other includes more people
You can suggest he deserves a lot of things - like you can a pedo. What you can't do is say you're going to do it yourself.
Indifference to human life totally on brand for the gop
This is not indifference. This is a call for genocide. And a genocide at Ausschwitz proportions.
I'm saying lindsey graham doesn't care if people live or if people die.
I'm from in Belgium, and have colleagues from countries from both sides of the second world war. The carpet bombing of cities is still talked about every now and then. It's still remembered as one of the worst tragedies during that war (apart from the obvious), and the scars it left in many family trees still pain the people to this day.
Hearing stories from Gaza and the Donbas always remind me of the stories I used to hear from my grandfather, and I believed we left those war tactics behind in the last century. It's absolutely insane hearing an allied country to ours debating using those tactics again.
“I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."
Only thing this guy deserves to hear for the rest of his life.
I’m shocked! Who could have guessed this slimy invertebrate would have zero regard for anyone but himself!?
It’s wild that if anyone were to suggest killing Lindsey Graham they would probably be arrested and called a terrorist. But he can just casually advocate for nuking a densely populated area that is inhabited mostly by civilians and a bunch of brain dead morons will still vote for him.
So did we ever find out if Biden can use seal team six to kill political opponents?
They wouldn't make a decision on that unless Trump was in office.
The only thing Lindsey likes more then male prostitutes is killing POC. 🐞🐞🐞
Who votes for this monster?
More than half of the people who voted, since he ended up getting elected to the Senate.
On another site I saw someone argue that some Republicans intentionally say outrageous things or introduce inflammatory bills on purpose just to get opposing parties and such to rage over it and then they turn around and use that to their advantage somehow.
What a brilliant fucking suggestion, he obviously thought it through and is a very smart man.
Great, now ChatGPT thinks he’s smart.
Senator Graham has always been a pro war, pro bombing, neo conservative.
Yes, he's an American politician?
Nuke him
Holden bloodfeast?
Now imagine the headlines if someone in Russia said this but for bombing Kyiv with nukes.
So were the guillotines, for guys like Graham and all his buddies.
My dog barks some. Therefore nuke Gaza.
When I'm in a worst takes competition and my opponents are Lindsey Graham and Dmitrey Medvedev
Lindsey Graham will say whatever his sponsors want him to say. He shares like 2 of his opinions a year, and you can tell which ones they are because a week after saying it he's already backtracking acting like he never said otherwise. He'll dance any dance to suppress video of him and his prostitutes dick in his mouth. It's a corner he's painted himself in by courting the homegrown hate vote.
My gut tells me that he's a decent guy and I bet he's quite capable at the state level, but he's been in over his head in DC ever since he got there.
Ah, Lindsey graham, still giving idiots around the world hope that they too could be a US senator one day.
4 is to start the apocalypse so that Jesus will come back and kill all the Jews who don't believe in him.
I've literally heard that exact reasoning from nutjobs who know just enough about geopolitics to know that using a nuke in that region would start WW3. Anyone using a nuke in that region would start it. Unless it's someone like North Korea. That would just mean the end of North Korea as everyone else banded together to take them down.
Anyway, beside the point because no one is insane enough to listen to Lady G.
Wild that these comments are excusing a nuke being dropped on a civilian area, that was an atrocity and nothing less.
Like-minded country we need to forge close ties with 🙄
This appeared in my feed right next to a movie called "Cocaine Werewolf". Seemed fitting.
Cocaine Bear sequel or Teen Wolf sequel?
Good question. The answer seems to be Cocaine Shark sequel.
Yeah this is definitely based on reality.
And then people will really wonder why I hate white Amerikans. "Invade this, bomb that, nuke the third", constantly slavering over the next genocide, and they really wonder why 'cracker' is the nicest I've got for them.
Nice stereotype you have there. I'll remind you that even Obama is a war criminal. The problem is America, not some white propensity.
Shut up, cracker; Obama's half-white, only identifies with his Blackness when it's convenient to the party (on some Aubrey Graham timing, no Drizzy), and never even considered putting in the work to killing the white man in his head. How else do you think he was allowed to take the presidency? If he was actually Black in heart and culture, he'd have never been allowed within spitting distance. Funny as shit to me that you'd really invoke the king of code switch like that's a defense for you.
While I'm here, let's address this "the problem is Amerika" bullshit. Do you really think crackers won't still be crackers even when the Empire falls? 'Cause I'm certain they'll be worse. Amerika is only a piece of the problem. The bigger slice is the darkness inside you and yours that has repeatedly jumped out and ruined shit for everyone around them for the past five, six hundred years. Colonialism, genocide, slavery, racketeering, mass incarceration; this is the White legacy you will have to reckon with for the rest of your history.
Fucker would nuke Nanking.
I hate news about news. Here is the actual news: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CWRboGsn-oA
FJB? FLG!