I thought pointing guns at people who you thought wanted to sleep with your daughter was something out of bad jokes and old movies. Apparently not.

This is why it's so important to have AR's at arms reach, who knows how this situation could have ended up had he not been armed.

Bigfoot, Mothman and the Responsible Gun Owner are my favorite mythological creatures of American folklore.

Every gun owner is a responsible gun owner until they aren't.

I didn't even know marked ubers were an expectation. Here you'd be hard pressed to find a marked one.

Massive disclaimer before this whole paragraph that this person's actions are abhorrent and totally unjustified. Just want to provide some perspective on a single relatively minor point.

Regarding the unmarked uber it's actually more common than you'd think. In some cities uber will send you a little decal you're meant to put in the windshield of your car, but it could easily be missed and some drivers who maybe only drive a couple times a month may choose to not have that on display everywhere they go. Uber actually states that you're only supposed to have it installed while you're active in the app, but I don't think it would last very long if you peeled it off and stored it in your car or on a shelf every time you needed to go to the grocery store let alone if you drive for personal reasons on a daily basis. Personally when I was driving uber with that decal provided I chose to just keep it on my windshield, but there's no enforcement of that policy unless people scanned all your windows before getting in and decided that your license plate matching the app wasn't enough evidence to get in your car.

In the previous city I drove uber (albeit it was only around 80k population) they didn't provide any sort of markings. Plenty of uber drivers had signs, but those light up signs in particular are actually sold by third parties and as a result you need to pay out of pocket to get one. While I did choose to invest in a phone mount which is about the same price, I refused on principle to use my own money to buy signage.

So in short I can assure you that there are plenty of uber drivers in unmarked cars, either due to signage which doesn't meet drivers' needs or a lack of any signage provided by uber.

The more he describes himself, the more cocaine I think fueled his actions. That’s like 4 lines of self aggrandizement there, maybe a bump after.

What do you want to bet in all these stories the victim isn't white? Lol

Someone who did this is a medical doctor. I mean he lives in Florida but still, you would think he'd at least ask first.

He crossed the line from protector to posseser is my wild guess. What a weirdo.

Naper.

Probably not an amazing parent if his 13yo daughter is sneaking out to do God knows what. I get being upset, but I'm sure you could talk to the Uber driver or God forbid your own daughter to figure out where she's been.

When you have a gun, especially a "manly" gun like an AR-15, you some people start having intrusive thoughts and desire to use it.

Same with police. If you dress up for war and talk up an us/them mentality eventually it boils over to what we have today. Many cops (not all) are just playing dress-up so they can play war.

It's the escalation of fear in the US. We're force fed fear by the news, media, and Hollywood. Everything is tension and violence.

I find this relevant, how we are less connected with those that provide services: https://youtu.be/q1jRx6VzzhI

The US could be such a nice place...

Not really. You'd still have way too many stupid and hateful people.

They'd just be slightly less dangerous stupid and hateful people.

(And yes, I do mean slightly, but am not going to go more into details of the other methodology with much higher body counts that the hatred of small minded folks have taken over the years.)

Hollonbeck admitted to his actions and said he was "afraid for his daughter's safety

The kidnappers are dropping our own children off at our on front door?

Cocks gun

Not today.

The “afraid for [person]’s safety” line is because it covers his ass for any self-defense stuff. Because now his lawyer can claim that his use of force was justified, because he believed his daughter was in danger.

It’s textbook Concealed Carry stuff. Pretty much any CCW class will teach that if you ever need to use your weapon, you only tell the responding cops three things: 1) I believed my life (or the life of someone else) was in danger. 2) Someone was shot, and then I called 911 and began rendering aid. 3) I’m invoking my fifth amendment right to remain silent, and my sixth amendment right to an attorney. After that, you shut the fuck up and wait for your lawyer.

Basically, the cops are going to find out who fired the gun eventually. So instead of hiding it, (which makes you look guilty) simply claim it was self-defense and then let your lawyer handle the rest. Because now the prosecutor has to prove that it wasn’t self defense, which is much harder than simply proving you pulled the trigger. Because (depending on the local laws, of course,) self defense often only requires that you believed your life was in danger. Whether or not that belief was accurate is irrelevant. So as long as you’re able to stick to your very simple “I believed my life was in danger” story, you’ll likely be able to walk away.

It’s the same shit abusers and PR firms do when shit hits the fan. Instead of waiting for the cops to bust your door in with a warrant, you get in front of the situation and reframe the scenario so it suits you. Dead men tell no tales, so tell your tale loudly and make the dead man look fucking awful. Frame the person you shot as the aggressor, and yourself as the scared victim. You had no choice but to use your weapon, because you were just so scared. That mean (dead) attacker was scaring you, and forced your hand. You flip the script, and the cops will let you go.

Not sure. But for all the talk about how antiwoman these people are they are pretty antiman too and assume any man is a danger to them. Would help us a lot of we looked at it that way, but we don't.

The driver was actually "Exotic Oil Slick Rainbow" according to their tech specs.

Pfft. This is Florida, Desantis is going to make him attorney general within the week.

I wish this were true in practice.

I have been dealing with a crazy ex-friend who as it turns out is a felon who was already dinged for gun possession from a previous felony and now that I have new evidence of it happening again the police do not care at all, even though he harasses me constantly from different phone numbers every day.

They THINK they live in a dangerous place. What they don't understand is it's technically true. They are the danger to the neighborhood.

Reading between the lines here, it sounds like what happened is the daughter left the house without permission and that pissed off daddy. So he decided to wait by the door with his gun until she came home and then shove a gun into the face of whatever guy dropped her off. I guess he forgot Uber exists. He probably thought a friend or boyfriend was fropping her off.

they fantasize about shooting an invader so much that the first person they see becomes an opportunity. people have shot family members who come home in an unexpected manner or at an unexpected time. they own guns with the hope that one day they can kill someone and feel like Eastwood or whatever.

I guarantee that these people have never lived in the ghetto. People who pull guns on the regular have more morals and honor than these wannabe cowboys.

Here in Texas, there isn't even a waiting period, at least for handguns.

Bruh put a gun in a man’s face. He ain’t learnin shit.

Ok, it didn't sit right with me (still doesnt) so I looked up how the heck this is even allowed. Turns out Uber in their infinite wisdom is allowing teens 13-17 to make uber profiles in select cities. Personally I am far from ok with that BUT, I did find out some relevant information. Turns out you can only create an uber account as a teen if the account is linked to a guardians uber account that gives you permission, and gives notifications and live trip tracking to that guardian. So this absolute clown is either lying or when his kid went missing he reached for his gun before and without reaching for his phone and actually checking his notifications to see if his parent tracking stuff knew anything about where his kid was, or maybe a friends parents knew where she was or even the police. Nope, just got the gun even though he would have had to have known his kid had an uber account and that he had access to its tracking.