Conservative Plan Calls for Dozens of Executions if Trump Wins

Yes. Each book is a stand alone, but they do go in 'historical' order.

Slightly off topic. Max Allan Collins Nate Heller books are 'hard boiled historicals.' The latest "Too Many Bullets' covers the Bobby Kennedy assassination.

Seen it. I usually hate TV shows with subtitles, but this one kept me going.

I'm voting Biden, but not happily.

I can't really disagree with you. The issue is we have reached the actual point where the current crisis dwarfs all others. Maybe I was just younger then, but it didn't feel like we had such existential threats in the Bush and Obama years. I remember people said that Romney winning would be the apocalypse, but it's laughable to say that would've been the case in hindsight.

I think what we can take heart in is that we've been seeing a gradual increase in progressiveness in the party. And not just a small constant increase, but a significantly growing one. There are a nontrivial number of Congressional members who are incredibly progressive, and they've shifted the mood of the party notably leftward. The Inflation Reduction Act was a historic level of climate spending, to the point that Europe felt pressured to pass similar legislation. And the IRA actually closed the corporate tax loophole too -- large corporations raking in billions in profits now have to pay a minimum 15%, even if they could previously loophole their way to $0.

I wish things were faster. Gaza in particular has highlighted to me just how frustrating it is for things to only improve at a snail's pace. And specifically with Gaza, I don't think the progress is actually amounting to material changes.

We are seeing material changes in other areas though. Healthcare could be a hell of a lot better, but as someone who relied on Obamacare for a few years, things have actually improved for people. The important thing is that we don't lose heart, and that we keep pushing for better. The US has a rich history of leftists persevering to accomplish women's suffrage, civil rights, labor rights, and gay rights and equality. As long as we press forward, just like they did, we'll be successful. The arc of history is long, but it bends towards justice and good.

If we could just bury the fascists for good, we could start to make serious progress.

We're gonna need a bigger tent

The first thing the nazis did, was purge the bureaucracy. Taking away guns was no concern, at all.

Privately owned guns played no significant role in the nazis' rise to or hold on power. Anything else is simply marketing by american gun sellers.

Some of their victims hid, refused to give up their arms, and fought back. They didn’t survive.

About 10-15,000 jewish germans survived the holocaust by going underground in Germany. They were colloquially called U-Boote or Illegale. Of course, that has nothing to do with guns. Guns were, after all, handed out to any able-bodied male.

If guns were the answer to dealing with fascism and authoritarianism, germany never would have had the holocaust.

That is only partly true. Germans are only a small fraction of holocaust victims (<5%). The victims overwhelmingly came from eastern Europe, particularly Poland and the Soviet Union. The holocaust happened in the wake of the advancing Wehrmacht. A more far-sighted response to german war preparations would have made a difference. A lesson one must bear in mind in today's world.

Yeah, it's a fucking joke to assume that guns are a hedge against fascism. They'll take your guns or shoot you. Maybe there's some protection in being an organised group in the moment, but if they want to get you they'll get you.

Part of the reason the Nazis didnt face too much resistance is because a possible major for of resistance got purged before their rise. The Spartacists got purged pretty thoroughly by the Freikorps who also used it as an excuse to purge other similar groups.

Also guns would be one of many different tools in such a resistance scenario, alongside things like car bombs and just stabbing people. Its just convenient to have a long range weapon that requires little training, mind you stealing a gun or manufacturing one would also be viable i guess.

I have some bad news.

Even if Trump gets prosecuted for 1/6 before the election, there is ZERO chance it's completed before the election. There will be appeals carrying it on for YEARS.

That being said too, there's nothing in the charges that would disqualify him on conviction. There SHOULD BE, but there isn't.

Ideally I'd like to see Congress get their shit together and get a Constitutional amendment that says "Convicted felons are inelligible".

That would solve the problem right there. Convict him in the Stormy Daniels case, problem solved.

Word? Do tell, what will happen if you don't get your way? Make sure it's actual information, per rule #4, misinformation is a bannable offense.

Nah, without control of the levers of government they're just terrorists. Don't forget that the government was well warned about Jan 6, and Trump's team actively suppressed preparation and response. It's not going to be the same if Biden is in office.

There will be no local violence. His supporters are riding rascals through Walmart, the few that could participate will turn and run when shit gets real, just like 1/6

I mean that's a pretty stupid thing to say considering everyone knows you'll get your comment removed and probably also your account banned for explaining what should actually be done, what should actually be being done, right now. Maybe eventually everyone will get mad enough that mods will stop standing in the way of what needs to happen, but by then they'll have pulled the plug on the internet anyway..

You ever heard of guerilla tactics? An authoritarian army doesn't need to be out gunned to have a really bad time

This is actually the incarnation of “Defending the Free State” IMO. To be clear, the right to bear arms does not mean you get to attack and overthrow the government, but to defend yourself (along with other states) against any state trying to impose tyranny. The federalist papers posited this (no they’re not law, and they certainly have other issues) and IMO it makes sense, even if it is a view shaped in a time that no longer exists.

Late edit: you don’t get to attack and overthrow the government because you find some policy inconvenient or irritating personally. Tyranny I think is pretty specific, and has nothing to do with government trying to push things like saving life on earth, incentivizing electric vehicles, someone asking for a different name than their birth gender, or trying to protect kids and everyone else from random or other actors with firearms intent on mass death.

Jesus is an extension of the Christian God so their god says it all.

Donald Schmuck

This is why it's especially irritating when the bothsiderists go on with the #BidenSoOld stuff, or the tankies go on with the #GenocideJoe thing, or the handwringing over whether journalists should side with democracy and so on.

This stuff is right out in the open. Do bothsiderists, tankies or journalists think they'll be safe under this kind of thing?

Oh, did SCOTUS rule that presidents cannot do whatever they want? Did one of the lower courts hold him accountable for committing insurrection or election fraud?

Wake up, friend.

Last time he had a bunch of "normal" (old style) republicans in his cabinet, and they stopped him from doing a lot of what he wanted to do. And of course the career civil servants in all the government agencies followed the law and that stymied a lot of his and his minions' schemes--which they learned from. Now they know where the roadblocks to dictatorship are and have had 4 years to come up with plans like project 2025 and others.

Next time, no one will even try to stop him. Everyone in the cabinet and appointed post will be loyal lackeys who will do whatever trump says. Career civil servants who don't follow illegal or crazy orders will be fired and replaced with those who will. Even the Supreme Court now has the 3 extreme conservatives he appointed along with many many federal/district court judges who were drawn from a list compiled by the same people who authored the project 2025 plans.

The next time ain't gonna be like last time, folks.

He did election fraud and an insurrection last time that he still hasn't been jailed for, why wouldn't he escalate? Nine people are currently sitting around deciding if maybe a president should be legally permitted to execute their political opponents. Six of them are corrupt shitheads and three of them were appointed by an insurrectionist.

Good luck getting the American people to grasp the concept.

adjective (of an action or gesture) carried out with a minimum of effort or reflection. "he gave a perfunctory nod"

Neat, haven't heard that word before

Tell that to the Supreme Court.

It’s fun to say. It sounds like it should be a type of hedgehog fart or something. I like complicated words for totally ordinary things.

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Which equates to 535 kings ruling over 300 million serfs.

Or are they all just sockpuppets for one hidden king?

Smell the democracy!

...you realize that still doesn't speak well to the Democrats ability to organize and pass legislation? The republicans are the threat that they are because Democrats leave this shit on the table. It's like abortion; there have been several occasions in 21st century where the Democrats had the legislature and the presidency, yet it still comes down to 9 unelected elders. They even had a month's forewarning of the Dobbs decision, yet no legislative fix! They didn't even try!

Some people have absolutely nothing better to do with their time. Just point and laugh, they'll take the hint eventually when they don't get the reaction they want.

Considering it's a brand new account made today, I wouldn't be surprised if it's someone who already got banned and is trying to evade it.

I'm not a troll.. I am, however, open to discourse. Or are people with differing opinions/views just not allowed?