But think of all the shareholder value that could be created!

Name another tweet that has as many applications besides dril's entire account and

Not only that, but there's literally a Star Trek episode about this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Time_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine)

Of course, it's about torturing O'Brien.

I don't think you understand how the system works.

I'm pretty sure crimes like murder etc. are the ones that should be getting thousands year sentences. Has nothing to do with cost of living and housing price imo. I'm open to an explanation.

There's a Deep Space 9 episode about that!

That Black Mirror episode still affects me to this day shudder

also star trek: deep space nine.

And Outer Limits 1995 iirc

Also a Carey Elwes documentary about assholes with six fingers

2 I think, though I don't remember the other one that's not White Christmas.

Technology like this could actually be used to help the rehabilitation process by dilating time, and allowing the offender to be rehabilitated without actually wasting much of their actual life.

It would most likely be used for harsh punishment in this universe, but its nice to imagine living in a better one, sometimes.

So I was on a jury pool in December.

After the attorneys for both sides finished their dog and pony show, the judge himself made each of us answer the following question:

What is the purpose of criminal incarceration?

A - Punishment

B - Deterrence

C - Rehabilitation

After all seventy five of us had answered, all of us who responded with anything other than punishment were dismissed. Even those who answered a combination of the choices. Nope. Punishment was the only correct answer.

To my amusement, this barely left enough people available to fill the jury box.

I followed the case. Guy robbed a convenience store. No death. No injury. Got fifty nine years.

It's not complete horseshit. The application might be, but the idea isn't.

I remember a Slavoj Zizek anecdote about it.

I know it’s a shitpost, but the idea behind something like this is counter to the point of rehabilitation.

Its counter to our understanding of entropy. Brains simply don't work like this.

Sounds like you found some more time that you could be working!

No, sorry. Ethically, this technology can only be used for torture.

Can I use this to make my 48 hour weekend feel like a 480 hour weekend?

No, because its a technological fantasy.

People can "lose time" such that they don't realize how long they've been unconscious. But they can't "gain time". That's not how brains work. You can't get an extra six weeks to study for an exam an hour before the test. Nothing will let you do that. Its pure wizard-tier shit.

But now they got a plan to kill you which they has planned on for 1000 years.

Are you saying that prisons actually reform people now?

I thought they were just private institutions that made insane amounts of money charging people 5 dollars for a pack of ramen and limiting their ability to visit family and friends

I think it would rely more on fear factor. Like they put someone under for what feels like 2 months, so they are on the brink of giving up hope, then pull em out and go "alright now we'll assess you're status and determine whether to put you back in for 10 years"

I speculate it wouldn't work on a variety of people though, as their brain could already be adjusted to altered time perception through the use of drugs. Even without hard drugs or Adderall, you can still fuck with your time perception using only weed and sugar (the food-- as in drink four cans of cola and get super baked immediately, then set 15 minute timers and get lost in your own head, see how long each of those 15 minutes feel)

With that username, this photo is all you should ever comment.

Yes, Let them single step using the same input data for a couple of weeks that will teach them!

Just make them do planks all day.

and a Star Trek episode

Literally.

Likely inspired by Vernon Vinge's The Cookie Monster:

https://museum.netstalking.org/storage/cyberlib/lib/burz/ving4.html

Lmao yeah I came here to say this..

But alas, I was too slow :(

I wouldn't call OP a jackass for not providing the source for a shitpost.

It’s older than that if you want to cite fiction

Which someone saying “maybe one day we can” is

You could imagine.

QED

This philosopher hack has also written about eugenic BS aimed at sculpting humanity to have a smaller carbon footprint. I'm ok with op not actually linking to her crap.

lol and its only a few paragraphs long. Coulda tried harder, Rhiannon Williams...

One day Steve said: You know what? Keeping a prisoner a life for a thousand years is fucking expensive. What if we didn't have to?

And from that conversation our company was born. Little did we know that death sentence is still a thing or that humans don't even live that long. But boy did we scam some investors.

As long as it's a cheaper alternative, the massive unstoppable psychopath violence machine will develop and use options like this. But yeah let's continue to give corporations more rights than humans and feed them actual energy and love too because what the fuck do i know, nobody has of course found a better alternative than hyper capitalism ever it's not like I live in a country where tax and systems have made some of these horrors less or anything

What do you propose instead of incarceration?

That's exactly what I was thinking. It feels like anyone advocating for this only cares about punishing people and not actually solving any problems.

And showed why it was a bad idea. Just another instance of the 'painsphere'.

The Culture already did it

Surface Detail - Iain M Banks

DMT already did it.

Outer Limits did it too: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0667983/

The Sentence. It stars Niles from Frasier (David Hyde Pierce)

There it is. One of the most disturbing episodes in all Star Trek, and it's exactly this. That and Inner Light, genuinely dark shit.

O'Brien exists to suffer haha.

While that would indeed be awesome, that's not the route they proposed. It's more about slowing down the perception of time, rather than being able to actually do something peoductive during that.

Philosopher Rebecca Roache, who leads a team of scholars, explains two methods to this madness. The first involves psychotic drugs that distort a person’s sense of time.

With a simple pill or injection, prisoners may believe they’ve been incarcerated for much longer than any natural human life could allow.

The second approach Roach explains is a bit more complex. Option number two involves uploading human minds to computers (da f*ck?), and speeding up the rate at which the brain functions. On her blog, Roach writes: "[...] This would, obviously, be much cheaper for the taxpayer than extending criminals’ lifespans to enable them to serve 1,000 years in real time.”
https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/new-technology-could-make-inmates-feel-like-theyre-serving-a-1000-year-sentence-in-8-hours-scrol/

Despite thinking, "wow that's a disgusting way to see and treat humans", and some obvious moral concerns (like, social isolation for what feels like 1000 years, which will fuck up most people badly), which make this feel like a black mirror episode, the mind-upload issue is technically extremely tricky. Even if we had the technology to "upload" the human mind, it will be a copy, a clone, not you individually. And if we don't have an option to download the copy back into your brain, it will just be a waste of energy.

More importantly, an intriguing question is raised: After such a download, will this be you? Or just a copy of a copy and thereby another being which just replaces another one.

Another thing I find important to ask here: what's the point of penalties? These suggestions seem to me like psychological torture rather than measures to "correct" social behaviour. In no way resocialisation seems to matter here. So we just fuck people up by that and unleash them onto society afterwards. Doesn't sound good to me.

Sorry for not keeping my reply focused on your idea. I had some time to spare and this kept me busy.

A few trillion years trapped punching your way out of a time loop...

Sorry, best I can do is knitting and crochet. But think of all the sweaters and socks you'll have.

Without knowing more about the research, my gut tells me that it has been a tad sensationalized. Very little research is actually directed towards a specific goal in mind from the get-go. Normally, there are people researching a specific topic, reporting their findings, and then speculating on potential applications.

So if I had to guess, there's some company/institution/organization researching neural interfacing pathways or brain augments or something like that, a hypothesis that introducing X, Y, and Z conditions can alter one's perception of time, and then under potential applications they list "accelerated prison sentences" as one such possibility. Then suddenly you have sensationalist news articles about how researchers are developing a dystopian system to make 1000 years pass in 8 hours for prisoners.

This is likely going to end up in the same manner as the dozens of "Scientists may have discovered a cure for cancer" articles that turn up every year.

No-one was researching this topic. This interview came out of a philosopher’s ass. https://alexandrite.app/feddit.de/comment/9260446

Miles O’Brien must suffer

Probably the best "O'Brien Must Suffer" episode.

A similar premise was used in an episode of the 90's revival of The Outer Limits. Had David Hyde Pierce in it.

There's also a book by iain M banks called Surface Detail, part of the culture series. It was an entertaining albeit troubling read.

So it's all going perfectly to plan.

Or would they be so filled with rage when they come back to reality that they go on a rampage? I would find whoever created the tech and kill them then kill myself so they couldn't torment nexus me again.

You get a billionaire behind it and work in AI? All the venture capital. All of it.

My favourite episode: White Christmas.

Heroes did it.

Also Inception, kind of.

And Interstellar.

of course there is

Picard got a wonderful lifetime experiencing a peaceful culture in which he was a musician and scientist with a loving family beamed into his head.

Obrien got the memory of decades of imprisonment in which he killed his only friend.

It's sort of an actual plot of a Voyager episode, too. The one where they force Tom to relive a murder he didn't even commit.

There’s a free movie on YouTube called other life about this as well

Or that episode of The Outer Limits with David Hyde-Pierce.

One of my favourite episodes. I need to hold my right hand with my left to prevent myself from watching it too many times.

This was from 2014, maybe where they got the idea from even.

I once had a dream lasting months, ultra vivid.m, ending in a futuristic battle scene in which everyone around me was massacred and then I was killed last. Woke up, and three minutes had passed since I last looked at my phone.

I agree - figuring out how to take advantage of time dilation for therapeutic purposes would be very cool, and potentially quite useful. This is kind of what I hope comes from renewed research into psychedelics, being able to pick out the mechanisms for all the different effects and developing techniques to cherrypick just a few with therapeutic benefit with a much reduced risk of freak out. We may already be there re:time dilation alone with TCMS or something, idk.

But real talk - which do you see getting funded for wider use first, 5 year retreat in an hour, or psychic prison?

(Actually, saying it at loud it might be even odds, depending on the price tag folks can assign to the retreat)

I'm also kinda scrambled now though

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