9mo ago

Colombia's Medellín declares war on sex tourism after US citizen found with two little girls at a hotel

english.elpais.com Medellín declares war on sex tourism after US citizen found with two little girls at a hotel

The city’s mayor Federico Gutiérrez announces the six-month suspension of sex work in the neighborhood El Poblado and limits operating hours of the bars and clubs in the area, in which he says sex trafficking is taking place

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Was it Matt Gaetz again?

This is just political theater to make it seem like the Governor is doing something. Colombia, and much of Latin America, has a much larger issue being extremely wealthy countries with vastly poor populations.
These countries are being kept this way purposely so that they can be exploited by much wealthier nations(US, Spain, France, Netherlands, India). This breeds a culture of self regulation and minimal government intervention, riddled with corruption and a populace left to their own devices.
Prostitution in the touristic areas hasn’t been stopped at all, just pushed a little underground while the cops look the other way, because they are also customers.
Fixing this problem requires something that won’t occur in our lifetimes. Which is unfortunate as Colombia is one of the most beautiful and magical places on earth. Antioquia specifically is such an amazing place and the Paisa people are so unique and kind. Really beautiful when isolated cultures can survive this long.
- I agree on this type of declarations being pure theater.
  Which isolated culture do you refer to?
  
  The Paisa people were isolated in the Andes mountains for a long time as it was difficult for the Spanish to access when it was part of Gran Colombia. The culture around Medellin and the coffee triangle is different the rest of country and kind of similar to the Southern hospitality in the US. Everyone is so willing to talk to you and invite you to gatherings even if you’re a stranger.
  They are no longer isolated but their culture persists. I just hope all the tourism doesn’t spoil it.
- Fixing this problem requires something that won’t occur in our lifetimes.
  Hard, sad truths.

It tracks that he went back to Florida.
- It was matt gaetz wasn't it

At a press conference, Mayor Federico Gutiérrez said that he would be signing two decrees: one, prohibiting sex work in the area of Medellín for six months, and another, the enforcement of a 1 a.m. closing time for bars in the area for a month.
So now people will not be able to make a living because of this scumbag. Were I a sex-worker in the area, I'd be pretty pissed off. I don't know a better way to address this, I'm just saying that this is why we can't have nice things.
- This doesn’t even address the problem. Literally doing nothing is a better solution than the one implemented.
- A far better solution would be to get the sex workers to help with finding and stopping paedophiles & the pimps who support this horrific shit
  Get the police to worth with, not against, sex workers.
  I'd bet anything that sex workers would be able to help identify and track down under-age prostitution.
  
  I hadn't actually considered this. I think you're probably right.

what does shutting down sex work and bars do unless children are at bars & doing sex work???? classic carceral thinking, making whatever processes/institutions that enabled this more oblique and underground than transparent

Politicians are such fucking idiots. "We've got a pedophile problem" "Close the bars at 1 am, and make prostitution extra illegal"

These people are the scum of the earth and fucking disgusting to look at too. And before someone gets my ass on body shaming, actually come down to Latin America and observe the kiddy diddlers. None of them are attractive.
All the attractive foreign men who can easily get any woman they want either hire expensive escorts or use Tinder.
The plan itself is a ridiculous one and only looks to be an iron fist approach to something that isn’t going to be solved through aggressive measures like this.
- Trying to say that pedophiles are all explicitly unattractive is actually a terrible idea. Just like any other crime, body type has absolutely nothing to do with it. And pretending it does just makes it easier for attractive offenders to fly under the radar.

Passport Bros are a disgrace to human race.

I was confused by reading it "after US citizen found with two girls at a hotel".
I think I was thinking about adult tiny woman. But now I realise where the problem is.

Ban all crackers instead, bound to be more helpful than whatever the fuck this current plan is
- Haha, that's a good one
  hexbear
  Oh wait you're serious
  
  Shut up, cracker

Better late than never I guess.

Passport bros?
- A term used to describe people who go to foreign countries to hook up, usually to fulfill a ethnicity kink and usually presented as those who can't pick up local women so usually somewhere prostitution is not really frowned upon
  
  I just want tall blonde passport girls to become a thing

Sex pests are a major export from western nations to the rest of the world, it's about time this infestation started being addressed.

It would seem there is one thing Americans find sexier than their own family members....

Wtf is wrong with people who are pedos. There must be some chemical imbalance that we should be able to fix by the time kids are 10 and never become pedos. I mean it's wishful thinking but damn it's 2024!
- It's important to note that the attraction to kids, and actually diddling them, are technically separate things.
  No normal person has trouble not raping people of the opposite gender, no matter how wild their libido gets.
  So while research has essentially proven that the condition itself can't be cured, it doesn't automatically mean a person also wants to rape.
  It's when those two things go wrong at the same time, that you get a monster.
  So basically, teach consent. If you don't raise a rapist, they're not gonna end up a child molester, even if they feel the attraction.
  Also "fixing it by the time someone is 10" is gonna be difficult. People tend to be attracted to people their own age, so what, is a 14-year-old a pedo if they do something with a classmate?
  
  To add on to this, many people who do commit horrible acts against children aren't pedophiles, in the sense that they are sexually attracted to children. Many of them are sexual sadists who are aroused by the act of inflicting pain and abuse, instead.
  
  Oop... ooh boy here we go with the twitter/reddit talking points 😬
  There is zero amount of attraction you can have to kids before you become a monster. The only difference between a MAP and a chomo is time. I'm honestly floored here of all places you would see pedo apologia like this, but the federation has been disappointing me a lot recently.
  EDIT: Wait what?? I didn't read this until now but "People are attracted to people their own age" maybe it's just my asexuality talking but i'm pretty sure you don't feel "attraction" until your sex juices start flowing. One thing I do remember as a kid was feeling socially pressured to go out with girls even though I was prepubescent and had no interest in that sort of thing, and not understanding why I didn't feel like I had to. Wasn't until I was a full on adult that I started to realize just how much western society low-key pushes pedophilia onto you.
  EDIT2: I'm appalled by the reception of this comment and by the fact that the original comment has been allowed to stay up. Allowing pedophile talking points is going to cause permanent damage to both the quality of the community and to the legitimacy of Lemmy as a whole. How are you going to convince normal people to join this site when stuff like this is heavily upvoted?? I sure as hell don't feel safe and i'm sure many others would feel the same way.
  EDIT3: I just looked at the guy's profile and you all ought to be ashamed of yourselves. It's like 90% anime shit.
  
  I'm going to respond to your last point. First, Jackie Chan wtf meme. Second, kids becoming sexually aware while they are the same age and want to experiment, fine whatever. My point was older people taking advantage of straight up kids between ages of months to 17 years old. That's not a typo, i said months because there are straight up fuckin monsters out there. I wish there was something, say vaccine ( i know, controversial) or another form of medicine that could remove the urges or feelings that a potential pedo might have later in life before it's too late. That's why i said age 10, since i don't think kids become aware of their body until they hit puberty.
- I feel like this is a crime that really doesn’t get taken serious enough. There are so many studies showing that someone that was assaulted has a higher chance of continuing the cycle of assault when they are adults because it messes with their brain. There really is no seemingly help for a lot of these fucks, are our society is worse off with them.
- It's because the people in power are into that sort of shit. Pedophilia is about power and control, which are the same attributes that capitalism pushes to the top. Why else would you think that Epstein's black book had literally every billionaire and countless millionaires in it?
  Until capitalism is abolished it's going to continue being "a societal problem"
  
  Unfortunately I don't think we can draw a line between capitalism and pedophilia, specifically.
  Though theres something to be said about people in positions of power partaking. Just look at religion.

Death penalty for pedos would be a quick deterrent
- Ah yes the death penalty, famous for deterring crime.
  
  Castration then?

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