New language

Back in my day when you wanted a computer to do something, you just asked her to do it and then underpaid her because women can't hold real jobs.

Gates and inverters!!?

Luxury!

In my day we had to use transitors and resistors and, if we were lucky, maybe capacitors.

Back in my day we had an abacus and if you wanted it to do something you had to do it your damn self. And that worked JUST FINE.

Things like lombok make the boilerplate less of an issue in modern Java too

And god help you if you forget those 3 lines somewhere and you silently have database failures or something else.

When you handle all your errs the same way, I'd say you're doing something wrong. You can build some pretty strong err trace wrapping errs. I also think it's more readable than the average try catch block.

They’re basically fashion victims.

How are they ignorant? It’s a known fact that java is slow, at least slower than some others. Sure, it’s still fast enough for 95% of use cases, but most code will run faster if written in, say, C. Will have 10x the amount of code and twice as many bugs though.

Probably a bunch of hacked together Python to copy stuff between fileshares. Bonus points if it runs with a .bat file and a Windows scheduled task.

Without Ansible or Terraform? What about SQL specific for each rdbms?

I don't really see how that is bad..? Java wants to be widely applicable and taking the best features from other languages helps that goal, right?

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That one dude still using Delphi is getting screwed.

Also, these salary numbers seem... real low. I get that it's the median so maybe a huge number of overseas engineers are pulling the results down but in my neck of the woods 105K is less than what we pay juniors.

Could you have picked any creepier clown foto? Lol

That's almost comically besides the point of the comment.

Kotlin is Java with all the suck taken out.

It's a modern, ergonomic language that runs on the JVM and removes as much GD boilerplate as it can.

It's fantastic.

Kotlin is the tits

Of course Perl is in there lol

Whatever you do in perl, I can do in PL/SQL.

What about Groovy?

PHP5 was basically the Adolf Hitler of programming languages

You know how something can be so terrible it ruins something forever? Like the hitler stache

If you get even 1 thing wrong, the entire program stops working and you don't get any information about it. Turns out those cryptic errors like "error: object reference not set to instance of an object at address 0x007e00" are kind of important information to have. Unless you specifically know where it's crashing, finding the source of the problem is like finding a needle in a haystack. If it's your own code it's borderline manageable but you'll regret every decision that led you up to that point. If it's someone else's code such as an old project from 9 years ago that doesn't work anymore, absolutely forget about it.

The only advantage of php is that it's incredibly lightweight. I was running an Athlon XP home server on Gentoo as late as 2022 and still had php running despite only having the SSE1 instruction set and a cpu less powerful than whats probably on a modern led lightbulb.

But ACKTCHUALLY I think django and python bottles can be run on even shittier computers than php can since they're both python programs and python has been demonstrated to be runnable on a pentium 1. So there is no reason to use php.

Both are fine tbh. Javascript has come a long way from a decade ago, and mixing in a decent framework like jquery does wonders.

And?

there aren't 30 best languages, that's not how "best" works. we use only the best language. for everything.

Maybe it's because I know both languages but is that really a big issue for people? The interop is great, and kotlin is very readable, so the cost of context switching between the two is miniscule.

Some people have an extreme aversion to learning new things though. I feel that holding yourself to the standards and limits of your lowest performers isn't a great thing.

Sounds like you're making progress, your devs are slowly learning a better language that will let them work faster and will soon be able to help port the rest of the codebase and then you can really accelerate when no one needs to touch or know Java.

Doesn't Kotlin has interoperability with Java? I didn't used it much yet but I'm about to in a few months. Is it that difficult to just refactor things to Kotlin when you need to change something in the project? I'm asking because I just can't work with verbose languages and would prefer Kotlin to Java everyday.

Just use Clojure