If a person from 1700 asked you your job, would they understand your answer, and if not, how would you explain it to them?
If a person from 1700 asked you your job, would they understand your answer, and if not, how would you explain it to them?
If a person from 1700 asked you your job, would they understand your answer, and if not, how would you explain it to them?
yeah because I have a real job (retail) not whispering to the lightning through the haunted frame like yall
Damn apparently you're a poet too
"Shopkeeper" would be a pretty damn good job title too compared to retail.
‘Shopkeeper’ implies you might actually own the shop you keep. Modern retail provides few such jobs.
Working in a shop is a skill as old as civilization.
I (programmer and team leader) get requests from the king (management and project manager) and pass them to the peasants (code monkeys), clean after their shit (QA and code review). I get peanuts in return while the king keep most of the loot.
Bob: “why can’t the king just ask the peasants directly?”
I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!
The project manager is your peer, not your king.
It all depends on the project and the team. On some, you work with and along the PM and all is good, and other times you get dictated unconnected requests that you need to fight or ignore.
Ah, so you're the grand vizier court jester.
That definitely define my everyday job experience.
I get peanuts in return while the king keep most of the loot.
Well, at least this part hasn't changed.
I'm a chemist, so I'd just tell them that I'm an alchemist.
Ooh, good idea. I'm an alprogrammer. Or is it alware algineer?
So close, yet so very wrong.
Apothecary might be better.
To be honest you might get away with moving the term chemistry forward a couple of decades
Beginning around 1720, a rigid distinction began to be drawn for the first time between "alchemy" and "chemistry".[104][105] By the 1740s, "alchemy" was now restricted to the realm of gold making, leading to the popular belief that alchemists were charlatans, and the tradition itself nothing more than a fraud.[102][105]
My career hasn't changed much since the 1700s, I'm a winemaker. Our company doesn't have a vineyard we buy grapes from farmers, so our winery is in the city not some villa on the hill. At first glance our warehouse full of barrels is pretty similar to an old school winery. I could show my counterpart advances we have made in automation, like our bottling line or the giant industrial press, and I bet they'd get a kick out of moving stacks of barrels or fermentation tanks with a forklift. Using food grade plastic instead of wood makes cleaning easier, and our pump is electric not hand driven, but ultimately little has changed. Our wine lab is pretty high tech and probably the main exception, I dont think they tested for things like acidity and sulfur levels until the industrial revolution. I was literally just talking about this yesterday with my coworker. We had the bottling line out in the yard and we were sanitizing it by pumping boiling water through it with a diesel powered compressor. My contemporary may not understand sanitizing, or the equipment we used to do it, but he would easily understand the bottler and the importance of keeping it clean. I would love to share a few bottles of modern wine with a pre industrial master and vice versa.
i bet they’d get a kick out of moving stacks of barrels or fermentation tanks with a forklift.
Yeah, that would be really impressive!
"What are you going to tell me next, you have a one-time cure for consumption?"
Few people from 2024 understand what I do, so no.
What do you do?
I'm an in-house consultant for Enterprise Content Management.
If someone working in semiconductor manufacturing were to answer this question they would probably have to say "I make sand think" and just walk away.
"You know how we dug out that trench to let some of the river through for irrigation, and then we fill it in for winter? Yeah I do that, but much smaller, and much faster, on sand. Got a shovel?"
Not much different than weirder than meat thinking.
For the uninitiated: https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/thinkingMeat.html
i'm teaching silicon rocks how to think
Merchants have become so powerful that I, a serf, have been taught number solely to account for every penny they make. For this, I'm allowed to live an okay life. I do it with magic (Excel) because they are so big and don't want to hire many of me. They still act like the Dutch and East India Companies, with slightly fewer atrocities.
I’m a peasant just like you.
As a programmer, I'd just tell them "I configure contraptions to perform tasks for people"
Magic. Got it.
"Some other guys figured out how to trick rocks into doing stuff by putting lightning into them
I just write to the rocks instructions for how to do some work. I get paid for doing that."
"You know how clockwork automatons work?"
"No."
"Me neither."
I think my job would be understandable at a basic level. My job involves healthcare, which has massively changed since the 1700s, but the basics are still there and would likely make sense to people.
I look at organs to find and document disease.
A witch!
Let's toss them in a lake! If they die they weren't a witch! If they don't... We then know they are a witch!
Either way... Huzzah!
We have found a witch, may we burn her?
Ah, a barber!
"So how do you guys get used to tasting piss so often?"
Anatomical pathologist
Close! But I don't have big enough brains or the paycheck to match lol. You could think of me as a glorified human butcher...far more crude than a surgeon. The pathologist gets the end result after all the blood and guts are out of the way haha. (Unless you're a forensic pathologist...they slug around in guts all day!)
I barely try to explain my job to people today, particularly family.
I try to make rocks think with electricity and then cry when it doesn't think the way I want it to (software engineer)
What's electricity?
I spent about 30 seconds staring at this question, followed by 3 minutes pondering how to explain the phenomenon of electricity to someone unfamiliar with it, but nothing came to mind. Then, I went online and found that, while we have some understanding of how to detect and manipulate electricity, fundamentally, it's just how our universe works and we don't know exactly what it is.
I probably should have just said lightning instead
Mostly because the rocks are very stupid and will misunderstand your instructions at first opportunity. Kinda like Amelia Bedilia.
have you tried using Bauxite?
Our customers are people who work on (redacted for privacy)
We help them keep track of if their work is on schedule.
Pause to explain the Internet here.
"The Internet is complicated. But imagine you're holding a long string and I'm holding the other end. If I pull on the string, you'll feel it. We could then have an agreed upon code like one hard tug is yes, two short tugs is no. Maybe certain patterns form letters , so we can spell words out for each other. Now we can communicate from pretty far away.
Now imagine if instead of me holding the string, it's connected to a machine. Maybe that machine moves chalk over a chalkboard based on how you pull on your end of the string. I can then read this chalkboard at my leisure.
The Internet is much more complicated than that, but for my job that's close enough. It's a way to send information from here to there without anyone actually going there in person and telling someone.
My job is to work on the chalk machine. I help make sure it is set up right so it doesn't fall over, and the code stuff like 'one short tug is a, two is b, etc' is agreed on and interpreted correctly"
Backend developer.
Great analogy!
I’m a literal wizard. I spend hours writing in an esoteric language known only by those who study it in order to bend the world to my will and make things happen as I wish it.
The structure of my magic spells determine what the outcomes will be, and things can get really strange if you mess up the syntax.
I C you.
C++
I C snakes
I'm currently in college to go into GIS (Geographic Information Systems/Science) and lemme tell ya I think more people in 1700 would understand "cartographer" than they would today.
You are correct. People these days are idjits.
Not even really that but people tend to think that others have just outright stopped making maps. "Haven't we made all the maps already?" Is a common response I get when I tell them. They seem to forget about data analysis and all that.
Silicon techno wizard.
I make rocks solve repetitive problems faster than humans, and they can talk to each other anywhere in the world and group up to solve even more complex problems.
I get paid in pictures of cats.
I take food from the baker and carry it to people's homes directly in exchange for custom. We call it "being a delivery girl". The amazing part is what the baker makes, it's called "pizza"
Farmer. I operate big metal things that weigh as much as your village that sucks down every plant over an area the size of Lichtenstein, then produces enough grain to feed 1700s England for a decade.
Mine's pretty easy- I'm a bard!
Username does NOT check out.
Unless you multiclass
Lmao good point, not an effective sounding multi class but sounds fun as hell
No, I'd just tell them I'm a wizard.
Ok, do something then
Takes out their smartphone and starts the beer drinking app.
I steer gigantic metal birds pulled by armies of horses carrying dozens of people, to the antipodes... in less than one day... using dead animal juice.
Half these comments wildly overcomplicate their job.
'Imagine an entire city could see a bard perform!' You run a theater, calm down. They're old as rocks.
'I'm an erotic cosplayer, so I don't know if they'd follow.' Honey, people in the 18th century knew about sex work.
Everyone in software has to hand-wave some magic. Your new peasant buddy can probably grasp... printing.
I tell employers how to prevent their workers from getting killed, and of they don't listen, I tell the government to make sure the employer can't work like that.
And most of the workers find me annoying for it.
This is actually one of the things that would confuse a 1700 person the most. Why would the government care about the lives of workers?
You absolutely do not have to answer. But do you work for OSHA?
I do workplace safety, just not in the US. So, kind of.
HR?
Ouch. No, workplace safety
I can barely get my wife to understand virtualization/containerization and she’s very intelligent, let alone someone from the 18th century who couldn’t even comprehend what a computer was.
This likely has more to do with my shitty explaining ability than anything else. 😊
I used to work. Now the kingdom pays me to just be.
Probably easier to explain to a 1700s peasant than most americans today
I'm a lot like a guard. But, it's now much easier and more profitable for the criminals to steal or hold for ransom information. So, instead of guarding a warehouse or office, I guard that information.
Ooh, I like this. They'd totally get that.
These days, I'm a residential carpenter in New England - I'd imagine it would be very easy to talk about my trade to people from the 1700s, and I'm sure the builders of that time would be fascinated by the power tools we have now.
I'm a programmer. I think I would explain it as creating and operating mechanical contraptions that help students find books to read and help them write new works and send them to professors. I work at a university and that is basically what our program does.
I wait tables, so, yeah.
Ah, a bar wench!
LOL c'mon
I'm an archaeologist.
Back in the 1700s this wasn't really a thing. Although there were folk, usually educated people like vicars and wealthy land owners, who called themselves 'antiquarians'.
This mostly involved them employing the local unemployed to hack away at old burial mounds/tombs looking for treasure. Buggering up the archaeology for us future scientists in the process!
I'm a barista, coffee houses were a relatively new thing in 1700. People from the Middle East and East Africa would probably understand "I make coffee", and maybe some very trendy Europeans as well (Wikipedia says the first coffee house in Europe opened in 1645 in Austria.)
If they weren't familiar with coffee, I'd say I make a beverage with the opposite properties of beer. It's hot and perks you up where beer is cold and dulls your senses.
(Random thought: how did beer refrigeration work pre-industrial revolution? Were our ancestors chugging lukewarm beer?)
Ancestors? My friend, people drink lukewarm beer now.
Ever hear of the giant insurance company, Lloyd's of London. It started as a coffee house.
Back in the day, many people used coffee houses as their business office. Houses and streets were unmarked, and inviting a stranger to your home could be problematic. Meeting and making a deal at the coffee house was safer and simpler. Without a central post office, it was a lot easier to send a letter to 'John Doe care of Lloyd's' than to expect it to find your house.
Pretty soon, folks got the idea of setting up companies to invest in ships to the New World. If one guy invested all his money in one ship, there was a reasonable chance that it would sink. If he got together with nine other people they could send out ten ships, and if only two made it back they'd still read a profit.
That was the best read I've had all day, thanks Sgt. Awesome!
I visited a brewery in Germany that was mined out of the bottom of a volcano. It was pretty fucking chilly underground there even in the dead of summer, so maybe that's where they kept it?
Idk, I showed up to the wrong tour and I only know like 3 words in German so I had zero idea what was happening 98% of the time.
Random thought: how did beer refrigeration work pre-industrial revolution?
Cellars (and sometimes caves) were both popular and effective, even sometimes still used today.
From my very small knowledge, yes, beer was consumed at room temperature. In Germany it still is, for example. Also, beer had less alcohol and was much more like bread in that it was nutritious and filling than what we have now.
In Germany, people don't drink warm beer, if, like anywhere else, they can avoid it.
They had accountants in the 1700s. The principles of double entry bookkeeping remain the same, but the technology difference with computers and accounting software would make the day to day work unrecognizable.
Hell they had accountants in 3000's BCE, oldest know examples of real writing are receipts. Actually the oldest recorded name we know, Kushim, belonged to kind of accountant.
Do you watch stefan milo?
I fix giant metal birds that light themselves on fire and scream really loud to fly across the sky. The kingdom heavily regulates who fixes them, how they fix them, and who flies them to make sure everyone is safe.
The idea of a flying machine isn't new. Though convincing anyone that you fix them might get you branded a liar, charlatan, or witch. Depending on your audience.
Also the fact that they are made of metal. Heck, just the idea of lighting a fire below deck of a ship made of cast iron back in the civil war was seen as something insane.
there is a swarm of electric birds coming, coordinated by AGI
I'm interested to see what they come up with to solve the issues of cold environments at altitude and refueling between legs.
I'm concerned about the on fire bit.
So basically we have these extremely powerful but terribly stupid machines that can basically do anything as long as you know how to talk to them and tell them exactly how to do what you want them to do. I'm that guy who talks to these machines and make them do what people want.
I tell my users it's magic. My job is to be a wizard. When I write new programs it's coming up with a new spell.
I think they would.
“I drive around giving people rides to where they need to go”
What sort of buggy do your horses pull?
Mine’s got almost 500 horses
My work is similar to that of a librarian, except the library I work with is invisible and can contain more books and scrolls than any normal library ever could.
My invisible library has information about all kinds of things, the weather, the money earned and spend, and other things that are important for merchants, scholars and leaders to know.
It is my job to make sure the information arrives and is stored properly in this library. Also I have to make it easy for others to find and retrieve the information they need from this library.
You make the internet sound magical!
Well it kind of is, isn’t it?
At least, I like to pretend it is :)
Take my upvote sir! Best explanation yet
Machining and welding existed in some form back then, but I'd have to explain some updates.
I build buildings
why then, are they not called builts when you finish building them?
Sorry I construct structures.
Why do you of out eat the oven in hot of the food?
I'm always suspicious of these sorts of posts. Feels like the answers could be used to profile the users who reply. Maybe the internet has made me way too paranoid.
I'm a "blacksmith" using advanced machinery to aid in the process.
They had pretty good clocks already, so maybe you could describe it in those terms.
We made an automaton clerk. It has neither arms nor body, but it works all day translating physician's documents, so they may be stored with uniformity in a library that has neither shelves nor paper.
Yes, a doctor is probably one of the jobs that would be the best understood
Ah, so you must also cut hair!
Don't forget the grave robbing!
All in a day's work!
Most likely yes, the organisation I work for would have been 200 years old at that stage.
I'm a postie.
I mean, yeah. The theater goes back to at least Ancient Greece. So they’d know what I’m talking about, even if the job duties have shifted slightly throughout the centuries.
I design and quote Wi-Fi solutions for the hospitality industry, so probably not. I have a rough enough time describing it to my grandmother...
Hmm... Do you work for a company named after the end of a performance
Encore? No, but I know what you're talking about 😅
Imagine an abacus. Now imagine that abacus to be very large, as large as the side of a building, with hundreds of rows, each row with 256 possible arrangements.
Now imagine making different arrangements of the rows in that abacus, such that they are directions on how to change the arrangements of other rows in that same abacus. Further, suppose that this abacus can follow a series of these directions itself, without a person needing to do it.
What I do is to write a series of these instructions in order to accomplish specific tasks on the rest of the abacus. Adding numbers together, search through rows to find specific numbers, copying them. Numbers might represent points on a map, accounts in a business, words in a book, even colors in a picture, like you might find in a tapestry.
But then imagine this abacus is the size of a whole city - that's the number of rows it has. But its elements are so small that the whole of it can fit in your pocket. And it uses the same energy to accomplish its tasks that is found in a bolt of lightning, but in very small amounts.
I uh, am currently debugging part of an abacus? Where one row is acting on another row while the first row changes?
Hardware race conditions suck.
I feel like they'd lose you in the second paragraph, unless maybe you were talking to an especially bright academic. Not because they don't get the concept, but because they don't get how that would help anything, living in a world where you make most of your own stuff manually.
Also, energy wouldn't be spoken about for another century after this, so you'll need to try again with electricity. The OG physics guys like Newton were still alive, and knew it as vis viva, but nobody else would really know what that meant.
I try to predict the future in order to find a way for us to invest the money universities have given us that ensures we can pay scholars a modest wage once they're too old to work. The goal is to not run out of money before the last scholar dies.
I'm a stochastic Asset Liability Modelling specialist in the financial and investment risk function of the asset management company of a pension plan for the university sector.
Stock markets and securities had already existed in various forms for centuries, but pensions and insurance are really more of 19th century phenomenon, as are probabilistic views of the world (closely related). Stochastic analysis is a 20th century beast, and multidimensional non-linear optimisation in financial mathematics is a relatively recent 21st century development!
In my time, we’ve covered much of the world in a mesh of fine glass wires. We shine light through them to communicate over long distances. I edit the texts in the light emitting boxes to tell the light where to go.
I’m also largely responsible for cleaning up other people’s messes, like the day shift techs who generate shitty MOPs with a shitty tool that they don’t know is doing stuff wrong because they’ve never actually run a command in a Cisco, Juniper, Alcatel, Overture, etc. in their life and now I’m just ranting and rambling…
I give people rides in my horse and buggy in exchange for cash and sometimes barter.
You could actually do better, I think. You drive a carriage for hire, but It's equipped with something like a (fire powered) water wheel so it doesn't need horses.
Edit: It also might be of interest to them that ordinary people can afford your services. In their time schmucks walked.
True. My creativity doesn't come out with story telling like this. My creativity is more of the MacGyver type.
I am an expert in crops. I have traveled the globe to learn about them. I have created new varieties to plant. Landowners around the globe seek me out for knowledge and seeds.
That actually is a timeless career. Kudos to you for tracing the footsteps of our founders
Weed farmer
Weed guys can't pay me enough. 😉