Yep. I remember the McCain vs Obama debates. I remember thinking their policies were pretty similar, and either would probably govern decently enough. I wasn't a Dem or Rep, though I had voted mostly blue thus far.
But then McCain picked Palin as his running mate, and I saw the VP debates. And holy shit did that make the choice easy, and Red has just been getting more and more extreme ever since.
by debate he means he will childishly shout over anyone he's on stage with constant bullshit and juvenile rhetoric - no thanks. having seen trump in debates I honestly question anyone silly enough to try, he'll never 'debate', he just gish gallops bullshit until his minders come to change his diapers.
I don't think that, but a trump win means not enough people with half a brain got out and voted. In an election like this that makes you every bit as deplorable as the Trump lovers.
Not everyone in Soddom and Gomerra were terrible, but when enough fruits are sour you gotta just avoid the whole batch.
Bro I'm a leftist and I'm voting for Trump this time. If you want to win, don't run a genocider. Myself and other leftists have a few very hard and fast rules, and genocide is one of them. Id rather have J6 #2 than trail of tears #2
There's zero chance his handlers will let him debate anyone, let alone Biden. I'm not saying Biden is fantastic or anything, it's just that Trump is unable to string coherent thoughts together anymore. It's never been his forté, but these days? Sheesh. Dude's not making any sense at all and can barely read from the teleprompter. Intelligently coming up with retorts on the fly in a debate? I doubt he'll even understand why Obama's suddenly an elderly white guy.
He's cowardly backed away from all debates. Him saying this doesn't mean this has changed. It's just posturing. He never would have an actual fair head-to-head debate with Biden. He'll either say anything fair is unfair so he won't participate or hell say he can't make it for some reason.
The kind of people that eat up his “debating” style are people who treat the idea of an open debate of concepts the same way - that is to say that they’d be flipping tables and shitting everywhere themselves. They’re uneducated and hold unqualified and unjustifiable positions, and the only way to maintain those positions is to simply ignore or reject all rhetoric to the contrary.
They eat it up because that’s exactly how they’d act when faced with reason, logic, facts or statistics.
That's what really throws me for a loop. There are a lot of dumb people that think he's smart, but there are also a lot of smart people that buy into it too... Is fear really that powerful? It is, I know... But damn...
Nobody wants to see 2 old men ramble incoherently at each other. Right now trump is the more cognitively capable of the 2, unfortunately. Though it's certainly close.
No way dude. Biden's always had the speech thing. Trump has recently gotten even worse than usual. Called his wife Mercedes. Called Biden Obama. Decided to run for president.
I'm baffled that the republicans thought putting a senile proven fraudster, insurrectionist and sexual predator with a bunch of pending court cases against him was a good idea..
I'm not from the US either but I can't deal with that piece of shit. If he wins, I'm getting a dumbphone and give up on the internet and any other form of news.
If Biden does debate Trump, he needs to hit Trump with his rape conviction AND the $83 M judgement, tax evasion by fraud that will cost Trump another $450 M, and the multitude of civil suits that are coming. Being president does not affect civil lawsuits.
And when Trump loses AGAIN, he is looking at years of prison, at the absolute minimum sentences.
Hit Trump again and again for always being a loser.
Remember how Obama roasted Trump? Biden can remind Trump how he was owned by Obama.
Biden needs to hit Trump with the volcano roast. Trump is an emotional baby. Once Trump gets overwrought, he will be a babbling a word salad of gibberish.
Any debate with Trump in it is a farce. He just tries to interrupt, talk over, and talk louder than his opponent. It's all part of his faux-macho "establish dominance" strategy, just like when he pulls people toward him when he shakes their hand to knock them off balance. Remember the Gorsuch handshake?
Yeah, I always try to watch the debates, always. I'm a big fun of the democratic process, and I always like to try and give the candidates a chance to make their case, even if I know I probably won't vote for them. But you're right, I really don't give a crap about the debate. It's just going to be a globally publicized shit show, nothing productive is going to come out of it, and it's not going to change my mind. There's nothing Trump can realistically say that will get me to vote for him, and I'd, very seriously, sooner have Vermin Supreme for president before Trump.
That would be great if he was actually able to debate. Instead, he'll interrupt and yell, sling insults, and not answer any questions. Biden should 100% not debate him. He should say "I'm not going to debate with a felon, or anyone that is responsible for an insurrection"
Then the problem becomes "The evil dems wouldn't even let me talk, they just cut my mic. I couldn't say anything" Aaaaaand his cult shines up their pitchforks.
Regardless of how the debate goes, Trump supporters will already defend his performance and conservative media will talk about how Trump dominated and humiliated Biden.
Tbf, Biden supporters will probably do something similar.
We are in an awkward position where the opponents are so polarized that debates and discourse does very little to sway the bases. And the so called undecided votes have such eclectic criteria that it makes it difficult to pin down what they really want.
You could do just that, but it won't make any difference for the GOP base. Biden can debate logically and factually For hours tearing down any bullshit uttered. They'll still claim they won.
You'd just need a moderator and TV network with enough balls to shut it down if he steps out of line. So, short answer, you're right. It would never work.
I really want Biden to start punching. He should make a video of Jill hugging him and look at the camera and say “Donald, that’s what they do when they love you.”
Disagree. A Trump/Biden debate probably doesn't move the needle much at all for anybody. Trump's brash refusal to debate with civility looks as good to his base as it looks bad to Biden's. I don't see a point. It only gives Trump air time he doesn't deserve.
The people who love Trump debates love them because that is how they debate at family dinner. Biden supporters hate Trump debates because it reminds them of the dinner table debates they had to deal with.
Oh my God, can you imagine a trump and Biden debate now? Trump just making shit up lying incoherently talking. Biden returning fire but no one knowing what the fuck he's saying through the murmuring. Trump responding to things that he thinks Biden said because he can't understand him. Biden returns with more murmuring.
Biden should decline. It's the winning move. Remember the last debates Trump did? Yeah, those weren't good for anyone. Just let trump keep getting amped up about it then decline. It's when he gets cocky and starts calling Biden scared he should go with the sole purpose of dunking on Trump. Dont talk to the American people. Just dunk on trump.
He could be sent straight to the Hague right now to stand trial for crimes against humanity if the US would just recognize the authority of the court. Separating parents from their children is an act of genocide, and last time I checked the penalty for genocide was death. He clearly did that shit. It's funny how recognizing the legitimacy of the world court would just instantly remove one of the world's biggest problems.
Yeah, I read the headline and immediately thought, "Huh, looks like there won't be any debates this cycle." The more strongly he claims something, the less likely he's telling the truth. That strong of a statement makes me think he has no intention of participating in a debate.
Lol. People are betting on Obama to win? People are idiots.
It doesn't matter what these polls show. Georgia has two progressive Democratic Senators and this shows Trump leading by 6% there! That's obviously wrong. Nevada is not going to vote for Trump by 8%. They voted for Biden by 2%! It wasn't even close.
Polls mean nothing now because there's no reason for Biden voters to answer that phone call. Trump voters want to shout "Trump!" to anyone who'll listen. Biden voters don't need to be heard because their ego isn't wrapped up in their choice.
It's true Biden is down in "approval ratings", but that doesn't mean those people are voting for a Republican. A large part of them probably want a progressive instead. Biden can lose the "approval" popularity contest and still win the election, because the other choice is so bad.
I mean, while it isn't true whether these are likely voters, registered voters, adults, etc. and there were polling errors in 2020, it's definitely possible that if the election were held today, Trump would win. RCP leans a bit conservative, and are probably overestimating Trump, but it might not be enough to change the outcome.
That said, it's probably true that a few percentage point swings in a few key states could move the election back towards a Biden win. Six months enough time, but it'll take work to get there.
There's no option to fix major issues on the ballot, and there may never be, but we can slow them from getting worse, and express ourselves politically outside of voting
Donald Trump is only a few hundred delegates away from securing the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, and after a dominating performance on Super Tuesday and the withdrawal of his last GOP opponent, Nikki Haley, Trump really, really, wants to debate President Joe Biden — or so he claims.
“It is important, for the Good of our Country, that Joe Biden and I Debate Issues that are so vital to America, and the American People.
Trump’s debate-me fever is a stark reversal from his recent position on debating his political opponents.
Throughout the Republican primaries, Trump outright refused to participate in the debates hosted by the Republican National Committee, instead holding competing rallies and airing an interview with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson at the same time his rivals took the stage.
Now that his nomination at the July RNC convention is all but guaranteed, Trump is quickly shifting into general-election mode and wants to get in Biden’s face as soon as he can.
Jean-Pierre did not confirm if Biden would be participating in the traditional pre-election presidential debates, and directed questions about the matter to the president’s campaign.
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Biden is so slow, he would never even get to speak.
The other old moron would just yell delusional nonsense non-stop.
The fucking clash of the farts that should be in special care.
EDIT: to any US people thinking both sides bad: Biden is a functional old man, Trump is a christo-fascist moron who will rip the US from the international community. Also an old man.