got em

Yeah, it doesn’t matter that the U.S. has more people living in poverty as what matters is the relative amount of the total population.

I know you know, but thought I’d say it just in case someone else didn’t get why you said “it doesn’t work this way”

Why is that interesting?

The issue is a lot harder to ignore when the person to your right and the person to your left is starving to death.

It's been my experience that you can screw things up way faster than you can fix them

I'm not sure if Milei has been in power for long enough to have any sort of meaningful impact.

Doing things the regular way, he wouldn't have.

That's not what he's doing, though. He's tearing apart huge chunks of the government apparatus that people depend on with no safety nets or other mitigation of inevitable consequences.

It's like the "let's tear down each wall until we find out which ones are load bearing" approach to governance. Except they all are and he just keeps swinging his +5 Sledgehammer of Demagogue Stupidity.

The poverty spiked exactly as fast and exactly as much as the social programs he dismantled, he's trying stuff out and his first speech explained that this would happen.

I don't believe he's gonna pull off any kind of 2nd phase.

The former government contributed a lot to this, specially in the last year. Poverty has been steadily on the rise since 2003. I cant (imo) blame Milei for this, but I can't deny that if anything Milei has accelerated the impact of Kirchners' missmanagement.

Another things to keep in mind, the Kirchners were famous for lying about inflation and poverty indices and this government is consequently "taking pride" in transparency. Milei is also using this numbers to show how bad the economy is... so numbers could be biased or exaggerated.

Poverty here is generally measured by household income, which means that inflation leaves a lot of people under the poverty line, which may or not be momentary cause we get constant salary increases... always under inflation, of course.

The thing is really bad, and people is living out of savings. A sign of that is that we can buy US$ by 1400 pesos in a bank, but people is selling so many dollars in the black market to pay bills that we can buy them for 1000 pesos on the streets.

If all this mess will pay out in the long term, I cant tell, but appealing to our erratic history, I would say that it won't.

When you remove all financial support from people who need it to survive, they instantly are poor, it doesn't take years.

But I'm sure it's a hard to swallow pill for liberals.

Yeah. I'm hardly a fan of everything he says or does, but it's a bit like appointing a new captain an hour after the Titanic hit the iceberg, then blaming him for not stopping the ship from sinking. Argentina was well on its way to hyperinflation long before the presidential elections.

You mean Peronism?

Because he has 1980’s economic policy.

I read somewhere (sorry no sauce but it seemed informed) that it's a deliberate choice by him to appeal to working class boomers or something. Did you all know that a medium channeled his deceased dog which in turn told him to run for president?

If you're talking about his hair, you're not discussing his policies. He's derailing the dialogue before it can happen, and all he has to do is deliberately look like an idiot.

"Haha, jokes on them. I only wear this haircut to look stupid ironically!"

Tbf, Milei isn't a conservative, he's a genuine AnCap, which is somehow even more pathetic. He's tearing down everything in general, rather than trying to entrench Capitalist Power via fascism.

Not saying this won't lead to fascism, there's a large chance it does, but rather than moving directly towards fascism, Miley is moving directly towards destruction of government, which will likely result in an acceleration of Capitalism to fascism.

Edit: conservativism is terrible, but grouping AnCaps in with conservatives is like saying aspens are oak trees. Both are unique brands of stupid, but one of em has a MAGA hat and the other has a gadsden flag tattooed to their ass. Recognizing the differences between types of reactionary is useful.

There are other options than laissez-faire capitalism or communism.

The issue is that there has to be pain in the present for a much better future.

One of the things Faux News did to build up Trump was to show the unemployment rate when Trump had 100 days in office and compare it with Obama. Obama came in after the 2008 meltdown and had [apx] 10% unemployment at 100 days. Trump came in after eight years of Obama and had [apx] 4%.