Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

Good idea!

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Thanks! May we all enjoy gaming together :)

I wouldn't trust the fork to remain on GitHub. When yt-dl was taken down GitHub got most.of the forks iirc

YuzuModDownloader will detect games in your library, check the built in repositories, download the mods and apply them automatically. Do keep in mind it enables all mods by default, so make sure to go to the game's settings and disable the ones you don't need.

Notes. Thanks.

Coz they're assholes.

sues emulator-devs - but puts old roms onto their own products (mini nintendo etc. contained roms that "pirates" had distributed online for years)

never lowers the prices of their games

sues everyone left and right - like Palworld-developers

They issue takedowns on youtube channels for including nintendo game-music or gameplay

and probably more reasons

This is an excellent comment! All these haters up in here but seldom few list why. I think it's because their arguments wouldn't hold up, so they don't voice them. Just pure rage (useless)

I feel like a large number of the people pirating wouldn't have bought the game even if it was their only option. Then there's people who pirated and bought the game both. Unrealized profit is not the same as losing money.

I wouldn't have bought the stuff I pirated If I couldn't have pirate it.

Surely people downloaded BOTW more times than TOTK over the 5+ years Yuzu has been around.

Tears of the kingdom.

Case in point there is some evidence that Nintendo might have used a dumped and illegally distributed version of Super Mario Bros. in their Wii Virtual Console

The authorized cartridge thing would hopefully be ignored due to several other times Nintendo tried to stop developers like Tengen from bypassing their licensing system and developing their own carts for the NES (you know those weird ones that were usually blue or black? Those were "illegal" in Nintendo's eyes but they lost every single case they took against them to try and stop them from being made).

“copied the game ROMs into Yuzu” Yuzu is not a VM or other container and the ROMs are simply stored on disk in their original dumped form… Yuzu doesn’t “store” or “contain” any games.

ROMs are indeed copied "into Yuzu". They must be loaded into Yuzu's memory in order for Yuzu to execute their code or render their assets. In copyright law, even loading something to memory constitutes a "copy".

Also, almost every emulator is a VM; do you think those ARM instructions are running on your x86 processor and its desktop OS kernel natively?

It says "not on an authorized cartridge or console", the latter would cover legitimately downloaded games. Agree on the other points though.

It'll be like blaming your Network provider for allowing a user to download a movie

Which, by the way it was recently ruled in the US that ISPs can't be punished for that. article source

Nintendo is blaming Yuzu for actions of the general consumer

If you read the dmca, that's something you can do. Making tools that enable others to break copyright protection is specifically disallowed. Which is why it's one of the more insidious copyright laws

That's not really enough to be not in violation. For example, vlc can't natively decrypt blurays. This is because both its not bundled with the decryption library nor the decryption keys. Vlc out of the box can not decrypt blurays.

If yuzu can, if you provide some keys, eh that might be enough for them to win. It's certainly not enough to push nintendo away. You unfortunately need to be extremely careful around the dmca stuff.

There are two things in conflict that apply to Dolphin, and in general to post-DRM console emulators:

• It's illegal to create or distribute a device which circumvents DRM.
• It's legal to ignore DMCA restrictions for the sole purpose of making things interoperable, like running software on machines it wasn't originally created for when you'd be able to run it on the machine it was created for.

The wording in the legislation is sufficiently vague that it's not obvious whether it's illegal to create or distribute a device that circumvents DRM for the sole purpose of interoperability. If a case goes to court, it could set a precedent that has to be applied in the future, or it could be settled out of court to avoid setting a precedent, and so far, there's no case law setting a precedent.

When Nintendo asked Valve not to allow Dolphin onto Steam, despite what some people were saying, the decryption key was known to be there, and the Dolphin team had legal advice that it was reasonable to expect that the interoperability exceptions had more power than the DRM circumvention restriction. The decryption key is a so-called illegal number, but these are probably not actually illegal, and you can see several examples on the Wikipedia page about them. Nintendo ended up taking no action against Dolphin, and it wouldn't have been a good case to try and set a precedent with as there weren't obvious damages now it's been so long since the Wii stopped being sold, and because the Dolphin team have historically been so diligent about stamping out discussion of piracy in their official communities, making it hard to argue that it's intended as a DRM circumvention device rather than an interoperability tool. Also, Dolphin's never taken donations, easily covering all their costs with just basic ads on their site.

Yuzu's a bit of an easier target. For a start, it's got a Patreon, and that makes it easier to paint its developers in a bad light as they're getting money (as well as meaning there's actual money to recover). They've also got data to back up the suggestion that lots and lots of Yuzu users are pirating games instead of just playing games they've already got a disk copy of. In a sensible world where laws are applied fairly, there's an easy argument that hoops to jump through like requiring the user to provide Switch firmware show they're not trying to make piracy easy, but it's not like Yuzu will be able to muster up enough money for lawyers to match what Nintendo will be spending.

The worst thing that could come out of this is a decision that interoperability isn't an excuse for circumventing DRM under any circumstances, as that'll have serious consequences for a bunch of other projects, and Nintendo are likely to want to push for this precedent to be set rather than accepting an out-of-court settlement. On the other hand, Nintendo could mess up and get the opposite precedent set, although if it looks like that's going to happen, they're likely to drop the suit.

indeed. they should sue fitgirl instead, who distributes an emulator, with an included rom and keys etc. ready to play

There’s also still Ryujinx

Isn't moonie the dude who shit talked Karl Jobst and ended up deleting his video because Jobst called him out on how wrong he was on pretty much everything and how terrible his research was. Like literally just watched a couple YouTube videos level research? Don't know if I can trust someone who would fuck up THAT bad. I get people make mistakes sometimes but that's just complete negligence especially for someone with an audience that big.

He's not innocent and went to jail for it, but does it warrant garnishing his income for life? I think they went too far with that.

They are taking his income for life, that's an insane overreach specially for a big successful company like Nintendo, and it didn't matter since the actual team behind it is back selling flashcarts that are even better than having to solder a chip.

They didn't expect it to happen because of all of the landmark rulings in the past that emulators are inherently not illegal unless they provide bios to the end user. The only reason why Nintendo is acting now instead of years ago when Yuzu first hit the scene is because it's in basically a fully working state now and they somehow verified that 1,000,000 people downloaded TOTK. I suspect far more copies of BOTW and Mario Odyssey were downloaded prior.

Extreme capitalism stifles and suffocates innovation and preservation.

It's an inherent contradiction of capitalist competition. Somehow everyone is supposed to be competitive but noone is supposed to win for capitalism to "work". Otherwise it's considered a monopoly and "anti-competitive".

Ironically this requires collaboration.

I kind of doubt this because Yuzu doesn't actually have any of the cryptographic key material that Nintendo could have a valid reason to sue over. They only offer instructions to dump keys, which has to be argued is causing harm because its completely legal to do on consoles and games that you own.

Dolphin ships with the Wii's AES key but Nintendo never pursued them in court.

Most likely Nintendo won't get anywhere and only get Yuzu to remove some wiki pages and stuff which will make it slightly harder to use or slow down development by threatening more lawsuits.

I'd like to seem them dump all those dollars in a legal battle they can't win. Imagine if they succeed with the judge. They will lose their audience.

Elaborate?

You the pineappleEA guy? I love that I can have the patreon version for free with an easy updater thanks to the yuzu team stealing code from him and him having a vendetta.

Found the tinfoil dev lmao

It is not illegal to make copies of games you own and play them on an emulator. That is what was decided by the courts. Nintendo is trying to make that illegal.

I've had one for years, waiting for when Nintendo dropped support. I'm not gonna give them any more money as far as the Switch is concerned, so no reason not to go for it now. A project for this weekend, maybe.

From their own guide

yuzu starts with the error "Missing Derivation Components"

yuzu requires console keys to play your games. Please follow our Quickstart Guide to dump these keys and system files from your Nintendo Switch.

Their guide also talks about dumping games from your console so I'm not sure how far it goes, but if they want console keys they are likely decrypting something