What do you think about the porn industry ?
What do you think about the porn industry ?
What do you think about the porn industry ?
Would like there to be less stigma around sex work.
As with all work, I want better work protection. Unions. All that.
Specifically, I'm really tired of the "step-" stuff that the major free sites seem to push a lot. I don't know why it's trending but I don't like it.
I think in a couple years ai is going to be good enough to make video, and that's going to be weird. Like today you can type "big tit redhead" and hope you get results that do it for you, but in the future it'll probably be able to create results. That will open whole new fronts in ethical debates.
I really don't get the obsession over step-whatevers and 18 year olds. Nothing is a bigger turn off than someone who looks like they just graduated high school
Yeah give me a 40 year old with saggy boobs, a bit of a belly, some laugh lines, and a bit of body hair.
Unions for sex workers is going to be so weird. What if they enforce seniority? If you show up to a brothel first you get Ethel and if you show up later you can finally get Skylar and if they are really packed you can get Jayden.
Fellow fluffers. We are fluffing many dongs but are we fluffing enough?
Sex work needs legislation and job regulations like every other job. That's what helps sex workers the most and reduces sex trafficking. Porn industry the same. We should stop treating it any different than other jobs. The time to be silence about it are long gone, everyone has Internet and most consum internet pornography. Hiding and criminalizing makes things worse, always has.
I dont think selling your body is like any other job...
Imagine going to work every day and doing porn. I can't really see how that makes you a healthy individual psychologically and emotionally. Personally I think it's pretty disgusting, all of it, and absolutely a gateway into a very sad, dark lifestyle.
I worked 5 years at a job that sucked the soul out of me as I devoted all available energy towards making sure I never got laid off, developing an entirely seperate personality that was better geared towards sales and customer satisfaction at the cost of my self-respect and personal relationships, dreading every day as though it would be the one to finally push me over the edge and convince me to end it all.
Work isn't meant to make you healthy. The two often have a negative relationship with each other, in fact. Work is work. Let's not pretend we're above sex workers just because we're not on camera while we get fucked.
I see, so I'm assuming the same goes for regular actors? And musicians? And basically any performer ofcourse? Oh and also anyone who does manual labour because you are literally renting out your body for that. Well, and technically anyone with an office job too because they are still renting out their time.
Who cares what you think though.
Having to work for a living is already an extremely sad and dark lifestyle. It's inherently monstrous and inhumane, and antithetical to being a healthy individual psychologically, emotionally, and physically.
Compared to that, any hypothetical negative effects from sex work are as irrelevant as spitting into the sea.
And, frankly, sex work seems healthier, easier, and less emotionally taxing than most other alternatives, buck for buck, so if you're gonna get fucked anyway it might as well be non-metaphorically.
What's the difference between selling your body to be used and abused, and doing sex work? Either way, you're selling your physical form and mental energies to someone else, but at least with sex work you get to get off.
It's huge and diverse so hard to generalize about. I think it has many serious issues and much of it could really use more regulation. There's a lot of very unethical people involved. It's maybe not as bad as the old days but it's also a much larger industry now so the scale of the issues are much larger now too.
I think you just described "business" in general.
I honestly don't understand how they make any money. Outside of whales paying for parasocial relationships on onlyfans, who is buying porn?
Boomers, rich people with extremely specific kinks, and the aforementioned whales. That is about it. But it’s fairly cheap to produce so that’s enough.
But it’s fairly cheap to produce so that’s enough.
This last sentence got me thinking... What porn would not be cheap to produce?
Advertisers are paying for it.
I'm a bit biased, because I know some people that were involved in both porn, camgirl, and OF work, so their opinions largely shape my own.
Surprisingly, "normal" porn is still viable as a career, with camgirls and OF creators often having an agency behind them to do shit like promote, book studios, hook them up with other girls for collaboration, etc. Some of it extends into porn too, and while I don't know how much my friend was making from a mix of all three, she drives a BMW in the UK despite having a day job as a volunteer at a pet charity, so she's probably doing fine. The way she described camgirl work was basically no different to call centre work.
It was all still thriving as an industry because people have their favourites, and (weird or not) some people like to find their creators so that they do more stuff.
Honestly, seeing how porn is (still) thriving has radically changed my view on legal prostitution. While I don't know anyone inside that industry, my friend knew plenty of OF girls that were also on sex work websites, and it was crazy how many of them would pick up "extra work" to make more money - with basically zero protection that they would get from their agencies because they don't want any involvement or knowledge of what's going on.
Don't get me wrong, the internet is constantly changing the industry, but it's an industry that everyone assumed would die out for 20ish years now, and it's stronger than ever. I think "traditional" porn will still be strong a decade from now.
I can't see why porn would ever fade away. "Traditional" porn is by far the most viewed still. Camgirl or OF businesses are just more direct in terms of earning your money.
Also, porn has driven the Internet and it's inventions. Video streaming is perfected today because of the groundwork from the porn industry.
I think that it almost all looks and sounds so fake that I couldn't find it sexy if I tried. I mostly find amateur performers that I like and follow them. Sometimes if they gain a following it starts getting fake, too. :/
Sex work is work. Decriminalise it, legislate it, create a sex workers employment category and taxation, require licensing and health checks, give copyright protections to content creators, to their images and likenesses.
To me porn is no more fantastical than acting is.
Why would it require a license?
Provides safety and rigour for the environments in which people work and provides a professional standard which indicates a person is trained / experienced / aware of the "right" way to do things.
Like at the very least, sexual health management, consent, grievances, injuries, comprehension of working conditions, rights, copyright, prevention of sexual slavery etc.
I know it's onerous but the core of this is the worker and their health right.
I like it.
My favourite is stacked up Russian midgets or Japanese girls puking in each other mouths.
It makes me cum litres.
It makes me cum litres.
Do you keep it? There are so many options these days. Jars, boxes,
I mainly use coconuts.
I have no problem with porn, at least in theory.
The reality of the industry is that large swathes of it are built on abuse, trafficking, and use of drugs for coercion. Not a fan of that. But I don't think criminalizing sex work has done anything to help, and generally I don't like taking economic opportunities away from people who are already historically disadvantaged.
For individual workers, there shouldn't be any stigma sround for them, they should be respected as much as any other worker. And the industry itself should become less predatory and workers should be protected more, I hear workplace sexual assault is common in the industry and people should be protected against that. Also another question in my mind is "If people depend on money to survive and if that money is made trough sex than is, sex work, rape trough coercion?"
To answer that question it might be useful to ask a different question: "If people depend on money to survive and if that money is made through manual labour. Does this imply that manual labour is slavery through coercion?"
People have no choice but to work, meaning yes(?). Conclusion I am reaching is that capitalism corrupts labour.
You don't really need to work to survive, you will be miserable but you can survive. Heck like half of my family decided work wasn't their thing decades ago. I am the moron for working.
I think it's like a lot of things in life. Especially when capitalism is concerned.
There's a seedy, underground section of it. Women get trafficked and forced to make videos. It's disgusting and something I don't ever see going away. If it's not porn, it's prostitution. Sex trafficking makes a ton of money, and a lot of rich people are sociopaths.
However, outside of that, it's fine. Watch it in moderation. We're human. Most of us like sex. We like watching other people have sex.
It’s an industry that has inherent public drama. I think it can be a voice for positive societal change when it comes to sex. It’s also easily abused as we have all seen with CSAM on pornhub. If it weren’t for the humans it’d be a positive industry lmao
I will preface this with I worked for an adult website in an infrastructure support role for several years. I really don't have any problems with streaming camgirl sites or porn videos if the performers are doing it of their own free will. Camgirls can set their own schedule, it's safer than doing the same in person, and there's more privacy for them as well.
That said, many people get forced into doing things they don't want to do when it comes to porn. The industry is rife with abuse and human trafficking. I'm pro regulation, taxation, and ensuring that things are above board with independent audits. The same goes for sex work.
Yeah, one of the things the "it should be illegal due to human trafficking" crowd never seems to understand is that if you legalize it, you can regulate it and the the human trafficking aspect would become harder to pull off. While making all of it illegal just makes it easier for the villains to hide in the shadows of the industry.
Yes, same.
I'm a hypocrite but I do watch porn I also see why it'll cause issues with loneliness, or it being used as a quick dopamine fix while doing little to improve ones life. Also the industry can be grim
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I think that there's probably a lot of exploitation, ranging from human trafficking, to exploiting people who have no other options, to roping people into pseudo-pyramid schemes, to garden variety encouraging potentially harmful conduct stemming from untreated psychological issues (which can apply to both porn actors and porn consumers).
But I also think that for any possible harm that a legal and properly regulated sex industry could do, an illegal and stigmatized sex industry is a thousand times worse. So the key is to recognize that there is an undeniable demand for porn, so we might as well do everything we can to minimize the potential for harm for all possible parties involved.
Also some of those Rule34 artists are just... they're both some of the most amazingly talented artists and some of the most depraved perverts on the goddamn planet, sometimes at the same time. Bless their weird little hearts.
I am surprised it is a thing really. People are paying for porn? People are looking at free porn without ad blocks, incognito mode, and a VPN?
Erotic fiction makes even less sense. You can get way more than you would ever have time to read for free and yet people are still buying it.
I guess the idea is that you pay if you want specific items. If you're happy with whatever, then there's no need to pay.
Hey I am glad someone is. They pay so I don't have to. Jerking off on the freerider bus ftw.
Porn that is geared to women with foreplay and women-initiated encounters like Bellesa is hot as fuck and should be the direction the industry takes. Obviously fake moaning from a woman being jackhammered by a hideous man with a 10 inch rod borders on self parody.
I mean it’s capitalism so what do you expect? Then again I think most people know extremely little about the industry and have opinions based mostly on puritanical views on sex. So I usually don’t like to feed that nonsense by extra criticism when there are many other industries that are far more worthy of criticism.
Not much worse than hollywood
In many cases, way more entertaining.
The industry needs to take PPE a lot more seriously.
Just regular people selling their time/ideas/morals for capitalism.
I'd have preferred for it to be a thing after we established safety nets so that people don't have to worry about being homeless/hungry/sick.
It is just another industry as long as it is done safely. I know it's filled with a lot of issues, controversies and problems. Like production companies and websites abusing girls, models etc., such as "girls do porn". And other actors abusing other actors.
Porn is acting, just because somebody works in porn doesn't mean harassment doesn't exist towards them.
I know it may still be taboo in many circles and there's still a shame in the world about it. But as with anything in life, some people are okay with it, some people are not, some people choose to ignore it.
It's definitely clear that addiction and overconsumption of porn exists and it does affect humans and their relationships, and it's pretty clear all porn companies have in mind to increase profits and this means that it's in their interest for customers to alienate their relationships and over rely on porn and it's associated products to not only get their horny fix but to fulfill other emotional needs, I mean look at all the AI Chatbots that are being created and the AI Virtual girlfriend experiences. But, I don't feel like this is the only industry that has these issues and that it's the only industry where it's goals aren't what's best for the health of the consumer. Exaggeration and endless pursuit of growth and profits will do this to every industry.
I feel like, with everything in our life we should do our best to be informed and to actively be aware and pursue moderation, but I'm also aware it's not easy and it's not the way humans work.
As much as I say these things I'm not a saint or perfect and I don't always follow them. I myself have an addiction or a mild addiction.
You know, "Do as I say, not as I do"
I think I'd like to be an actor in one.
Acting in is very different than enjoying. Need to get all the coverage with visibility for the camera and no men coming until the very last bit. I bet sometimes it's a lot of fun, but a lot of time it's just a job and you gotta get through your day.
I’d watch it mate!! Keep the dream alive! 👍
Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks.
Especially since they're such good size and all
I don't mind having a wank to it, but I'd never have any interest in meeting / knowing / dating / having a relationship with anyone who does it.
The amazing counter to that is always "oh, yeah? Well they don't want to have anything to do with you either!" and I am totally okay with that.
That it will be really really really interesting how AI affects this sector over the next few years.
Like really interesting.
The optimist in me would think that it will change the industry for the better as less people will be exploited as most porn will be AI generated and only rare "certified real" porn will still require actual humans - which leaves less room for exploration.
The pessimist within me knows the optimist within me is dead for a long time and in reality it will be horrible - with basically every actress, well every person with any (social) media presence/any photos of him/herself will be an porn actress/actor, if they want it or not - there will be places offering "custom made AI porn". And some people will use that to exploit/blackmail/traumatize others. And some people will use it for easier access to more extreme material - and then find that they need even more/more real experiences. Which will be even worse.
It's moist and sticky
It's going to become a null question in 10 years. AI is already destroying it.
I'm 5 years, it'll all be computer generated.
Thots
I think they have no respect for themselves and makes the internet a worse place things like:OF,livestreaming crap,exploitation through addiction of teens and adults though self-responsability is a thing. Its a cesspool of the internet and frankly unhealthy and unrealistic.
Nothing positive. View it the same way as tobacco or alcohol companies
That’s funny because I see your comments on NSFW posts constantly.
You can smoke and still believe smoking is bad for you. ,,🤷♀️