If only it was like that
If only it was like that
If only it was like that
I checked for others who, like me, are too European to understand the joke: 50°F is 10°C.
A nice swedish summer evening (if it isnt raining).
Edit: cheers my fellow scandinavians and nordics!
Why wasn't I born in Sweden 😭.
Or a nice winter in the Balkans.
That's just about perfect if you ask me.
You mean too rest of the world
Perfect for me would be more around 20°C
Ah, 10 is fine...
You mean to say that 50 °F is (approximately) 283 Kelvin, right? ;P
Shorts weather that one
The hero we needed.
Thanks bro I was about to ask
I checked too before I saw your comment, I can confirm.
Celsius is the superior scale:
100° is the perfect temperature inside the Sauna.
0° is the perfect water temperature for a bath after the Sauna.
I work with Americans and this hits home hard. It's especially infuriating when they format their dates. "I had a meeting with so-and-so on 4/5" and nobody has any fucking clue what they mean.
The worst part is how hopelessly oblivious they are about it. It's not even like they don't care that nobody does things their stupid way - it's the fact that they're so insulated that they can't even fathom that nobody does things the same way they do. It just goes to show how clueless they are about the rest of the world and how little they get out of their neighborhoods.
It drives me mad. At this point, it's just offensive how ignorant they can be sometimes. If you have to work with other people, you should at least make an effort to be aware of the fact that others do things a different way and try to avoid situations like this, but they just refuse to do so.
Apologies... /rant
Isn't basing a temperature scale on the freezing and boiling points of water a bit arbitrary in and of itself?
The reason they are arbitrary numbers in Fahrenheit is because they weren't considerations when the scale was made.
I would like to dump on America for this but as Scotland is in the UK we have some unholy abomination of in between when it comes to our measurements.
Found the Finn, everyone
Perkele!
I've never been to a sauna before, but are you guys okay with boiling yourselves and then immediately freezing yourselves? Doesn't that seem very painful? Are you guys used to being Wim Hof all the time?
The thing to remember is that air is a great insulator. Air at 100°C isn't nearly as bad as say water or metal at the same temperature against the skin. In fact, the air that comes in contact with the comparatively cold human skin will cool down rapidly, forming a layer of cooler air around you and lessening the sensation of heat further.
100°C is a quite hot one. It could hurt your nose and ears a bit, especially if they having a steaming session.
The cold water (normally ~10°C) does not hurt at all. The first minute your brain is not able to differentiate the temperature at all. After that it gets quite quickly into: ohh I should leave!
Btw: you should try sauna at some point. Especially with the steaming it's amazing. There are also milder ones with ~80°C, I would recommend at the start.
Yes. It's wonderful. It feels great physically and mentally. Wim Hoff is a bit crazy tho tbh
Wim Hof, the guy who ahredded his intestines by giving himself an enema from a public water fountain while waiting to meet his estranged son?
You don't actually start boiling at 100C lol
Found the Scandinavian
I object. Kelvin is the superior one.
Hmm, I sure love adding 273.15 to literally every single temperature I encounter
I've never heard Celsius be explained more perfect than this. Thank you.
Fahrenheit is like school grades: 60 is minimum tolerance and beyond 100 adds nothing but misery.
That's not how school grades work were I live but I guess I now understand Fahrenheit
With school grades, when you get >100, you get bullied by your peers
Anything past 85F adds nothing but misery.
About 30C to the people who use real units
Is it bad that this association exists in my mind because of a Kids Next Door joke?
Hell yeah C's get degrees while perfect A students tend to burn up in the world
50 is pretty nice what are you on about
Yeah, I'm not going to the beach at 50F, but I can hike, golf, just hang out outdoors, etc. If it's sunny 50F can even feel rather warm.
Perfect running weather.
I don't touch a jacket until 40, 50 is perfect.
That's peak hoodie and jeans weather. Literally perfect.
I'd say 50 is perfect
This guy fats
I diagnose you with "weak, non-Finnish blood."
Put a coat on, loser
Found the Canadian
Between 50 and 63 I'm in heaven. Anything higher than that and all i want to do is go swimming, which as an adult with responsibilities, i never get to. Anything lower than that, and i have to wear more clothes and look fatter than i am.
What the fuck, aren't most buildings kept at 72? How do you exist anywhere except in a walk in fridge?
I agree in Midwestern as I put on my shorts and tshirt (I'm not fat, BTW... you just sort of get used to those balmy 50° days)
As a former Midwesterner (grew up there and lived there for 26 years), I never got used to the cold so I eventually moved South.
But turns out now I get cold at anything below 70F lol.
Exactly! 👍
Not to defend Fahrenheit, it's a nonsense scale, however: As with most subjective scales the entire scale can be split into good and not good. The top part is good and the bottom part is not good. The middle of the top part is seen as average good.
So around 75 degrees would be perfect, which is close enough for something as subjective as temperature.
This is why in things like movie or game reviews a 7/10 is seen as average. Like it's good, in the good part, but right in the middle not anything special. A 5/10 or lower is seen as not good, not worth seeing, not worth your time etc. This works for reviews, grades, person attractiveness rating etc.
Yet, Temperature is not a nonlinear star-rating by IGN, is it?
Are you saying global warming is actually caused by the bias of IGN reviewers?
Can you prove that?
Why not? Most people only meaningfully engage with temperature scales when checking weather forecasts. It's all pretty subjective.
If course there's a need for Celsius or Kelvin in scientific applications, but that's not for the overwhelming majority of people.
75 perfect?
Well at least you have the right attitude the way our climate is headed
i appreciate your level headed analysis
There are many people (particularly in northern regions) who would consider 50° to be quite mild/pleasant
New Englander born and raised. Thats hoodie and shorts weather. Best time of the year.
Minnesota checking in. This is exactly correct. Great time for sitting around a fire.
Every time someone brings this up, another decade gets added until the US switches to Metric
You mean another eagle and five hamburgers.
Weather/room temp wise we probably never will. I'd rather think of my environment in terms of 0 to 100 than in terms of -18 to 38. For science and engineering, Celsius is ideal, and I can convert between the two in the very rare occasion I need to because I'm not an idiot who can't do basic math.
That's entirely a matter of habit. There is nothing special about 0°F (random point in the cold range?) or 100°F points (random point in the hot range?), you've been lied to.
We don't think -18°C to 38°C, we think -50°C to +50°C (regular Celsius weather thermometer, covers almost any temperature observed on Earth), with 0°C differentiating between snow/ice, "wintery" weather, and rain/mud, "non-wintery" one. That's how we know whether to take umbrella (no point if it snows, hat is your best friend), what kind of shoes are the best fit - cold-resistant or highly waterproof - or which kind of jacket is gonna fit the situation. Melting point of water is actually incredibly important weather-wise and entirely ignored by Fahrenheit scale.
When it's not winter, normal range is 0-40°C, with 20°C designating comfort temperature.
For science and engineering, Celsius is ideal,
The SI base unit for temperature is Kelvin with 0 K being the coldest possible temperature. 273.15 K is the melting point of ice. But it’s a lot better suited for temperature differences. Celsius is only a derived unit.
And well, all units and measurement systems had a lot of changes over time because some things turned out to be impractical or inaccurate.
Initially Celsius had 100° as the freezing point of water, 0° as the boiling point of water. Fahrenheit had 0° as the coldest temperature he could produce and the (wrong) average human body temperature at 90°. Kelvin was initially defined via Celsius, that got reversed, they have the same scale. There is also Rankine, which starts at 0 like Kelvin, but uses the Fahrenheit scale.
And the US partially uses SI units anyways, all units are derived from them to use their superior base unit definitions. This system came into existence to have unit definitions that are better reproducible and change less over time. Since everything was redefined and all numbers changed anyways, they also tried to make use of the "new" decimal representation of numbers. And new unit names were nice to create some general units, in contrast to foot and pound, which were always different from place to place, at times even from city to city.
I don’t expect the US to ever switch. The US switched to international yard and pound instead of switching to a decimal system. After US, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa agreed on that one, all countries who remained using these units had a uniform definition for them. Since then you don’t need to know any longer which yard or pound it was. Though not all units got standardized by that.
And some countries didn’t drop all old units and metricized some instead. Even SI kept the ton(ne). You can’t know what 1t exactly means without knowing the context, it can be 2240lb, 2000lb or 1000kg (~2204.6226lb).
Aviation is already backwards; aviators give distance to travel in nautical miles, visibility in statute miles, altitude and runway length in feet, speed in knots, weight in pounds, volume in gallons, and temperature in celsius. My favorite is the standard adiabatic lapse rate is given as 2°C/1000 feet.
Celcius us a horrible scale for science or engineering. The world literally explodes when water freezes.
this meme also works in Celsius.
0°C is not very cold... chilly maybe.
I mean, it's literally freezing.
Tbh all I care about with wether temp is wether it's possible to snow or not. So on that front Celsius is quite intuitive and useful.
45 is very hot, 0 is very cold, 22.5 is ok
Ok is -273.15 C.
22.5 is about the point where it starts being too warm
In a few years, with global warming on the rise, we may be saying that 50C isn't that hot.
FML
Fuck, you're right
We see 50C in Australia from time to time now thanks to global warming.
Very hot in Celsius is like.. in the 30s. At 100C you'd be dead.
If you score 100 on a test then that's a perfect, therefore 100 is the perfect temperature.
And if you score 51 you pass, so 51 is the passing temperature.
51 would not be a passing grade in most of the US
In Phoenix, can confirm, 100°F dry heat is pretty awesome
💯
Don't impose your imperialistic temperature views on the rest of us! Leave us cold lovers alone!
NGL I could be jogging outside at windless 50 degrees everyday. That would be a dream compared to my current life in the hell that is the 47th Latitude Great Plains Region.
50 degrees Fahrenheit
Unless you are literally a demon
Quite the opposite, I think anything above 28 C would kill me in a day or two.
I'm Mister White Christmas, I'm Mister Snow.
I'm Mister Icicle; I'm Mister Ten below.
Friends call me Snow Miser, whatever I touch,
turns to snow in my clutch.
I'm too much.
Dont kink shame
50 is indeed perfect.
And you get the throphy my man 👍👍👍.
Indoor temp? No. Outdoor temp? Yes!
No and no.
Inb4 nonlinear temperature scale
It's the only way this meme makes sense. It's a complaint that humans don't like the average of the temperates that produce the feelings of extreme hot and extreme cold. You'd have to change math, change physiology, or lose linearity.
Nonlinear measures are used for
Why not temperature?
Fahrenheit is the best human-focused temperature scale. 0 is super cold, 100 is super hot, 50 is the line between short sleeve and long sleeve weather (assuming no wind). Anything outside these bounds, it simply isn't worth going outside. But then everyone at a latitude <|37|° will say "that's not that hot" and everyone at a latitude >|40|° will say "that's not that cold," so really it's the best Kansas-focused temperature scale
Because weather is simple, right?
“It’s snowing so climate change can’t be real!”
Look, you're entitled to your opinion but I think it's a bit Kansocentric.
"the perfect scale"
Proceeds to list completely arbitrary temperatures and link them to completely subjective opinions
I can make all the same points about celsius with the added bonus of 0 and 100 being universally applicable and objectively measured
Yeah I guess I agree, 0 to 40 makes much more sense in the context of temperatures humans typically exist in than 0 to 100
"It's the best scale if you happen to live in the perfect conditions for it"
That last sentence was a largely facetious, poking fun at people who live in areas where it can get colder than 0° in winter or hotter than 100° in summer, who have a habit of telling other people that the extremes aren't that extreme. In reality the fahrenheit scale is pretty useful the world around, barring deserts
69°F
Nice!
69 °C
Hell yeah, 50 degrees is tee shirt and shorts weather IMHO.
after i moved from the southwest to the pacific northwest and got baptized by the snow for nearly half the year.. i very much agree
We could make it work like that. Just have the thermometer be narrower at the bottom.
That's going to add a lot to simplicity and ease of understanding, for sure. And don't change the name of the scale or it will be too easy to distinguish them
As a person from the north, it really is.
50f is pretty comfy unless you hate long sleeves or are super sensitive to it being slightly cold.
Shivers in Texan
Same for c, but at half the scale tbh. (with a bit of a stretch to the imagination)
50 is very hot. 0 is cold. 25c is perfect.
25c is literally cock and ball torture what are ya on about. Then again I'm an Irish guy who hasn't left my country in nearly a decade so I don't even know what more than 25c feels like
25°C is 77°F; context for any Americans here.
It was 30c at midnight here last night
I'm Brazilian and, although I'm not in the hottest area, summer easily hits 40°C, so yeah, 25°C is not perfect, that would be 20°C, but is pretty good still
As an Australian enjoying summer right now I honestly think it's a bit chilly on days we don't get to 25C.
I'm Canadian and I agree. 25 c is the edge of what's bearable but closer to 20 c is better.
Hello, you, who walks the fiery path. I much prefer my 18, thanks.
Move to Saskatchewan if you want hell both ways, summers in the 40s and winters in the -50s. YAY
25C is the point where I start feeling sleepy because it's so warm.
If you think 25C is optimal then I'm curious as to what your "comfy sleeping temperature" is?
Tbh, in summer I sleep with the airco on 27c. Where I live summer gets a nice and toasty 30c+ 24/7 @ 80%+ humidity. 25c feels amazing compared to that.
Before I moved here, I'd also have said 20c was ideal though :)
15-20 °C is ideal for me. Above 22-23 it starts being too warm. Below 10 I have to start wearing a sweater, which I dislike.
I've lived in 3 different countries in like 5 different climate zones and none of them had temperatures that fit nicely in the 0-100⁰F range.
I'm similar, but two of the countries I've lived in are Australia (Victoria, central QLD and NorthWest WA) and the USA (Texas and Pennsylvania), so I've lived in 6 very different climates (also lived in the UAE)
The only one of these that got even close to 0°f was Pennsylvania, which over a few years has a few nights that dropped below 20°f, which was slightly less common as Victoria and central QLD seeing 120°f. WA and UAE frequently saw 120°f in the summer, a similar rate to Texas seeing 100°f (where I was) this last summer.
I doubt there are very many places where you'd reasonably expect to see 0°f and 100°f in the same year.
Where I live now stays between 30 and 90F. I lived in Saskatchewan and it would go between -40 and 100F. Crazy weather. Closest was maybe Denver but even Denver gets into the -20s F regularly.
I dunno, here in the Rockies that doesn't sound that weird. High altitude, low humidity. We'll get at least one or two 100+ heat waves in the summer (106 is the hottest I've seen here), and in the winter it can drop below zero at night. Granted, the last couple decades has made the former more common and the latter less, so I don't know if we'll see sub 0 this year. It used to be pretty common though
I grew up in Iowa which would see 0f and 100f every year easily. Now I live in Bangkok which is basically just 90-100 year round. I'm not sure Celsius helps either that much. But outside Iowa I haven't cared much about the temp outside ever either.
that's what you get for not living in the US.
Yeah the US never gets -1 or 101
I have lived in Minnesota, North and South Dakota, and Iowa. We get the northern winds from Alberta. It sometimes gets kinda cold, Aay
One of those places was in the US haha
North Carolina spends its summers in the high 90's and its winters in the high 20's. We nearly never hit 0°F.
It works pretty well for Minnesota. In a normal year we'll have a few days that fall out of each side of that range.
Interestingly if you take the middle of the freezing point (32F) and 100F, you do get a mildly warm 71. No this does not prove anything, yes I'll still say it.
Then if you average THAT with 50, you get 60.5... and you see all three numbers make a triangle. Illuminati confirmed.
Then you map it onto Celsius and see 32°F is 0°C, 71°F is 21,7°C and 100°F is 37,8°C.
Which coincides almost perfectly with the 0-20-40 framework we intuitively use in Celsius. 0 is deadly cold without warm clothes, 20 is warm, and 40 is deadly hot.
Turns out Celsius is good for weather, too. or it's illuminati
What happens when you add Kurt Angle into the mix?
As a Wisconsinite, 50° IS perfect!
as a minnesotan 50° is pretty fuckin warm in this months
50 is great for just a light jacket and jeans. You'll never get too hot, you won't get too cold. So, yeah, as long as you've got clothes on it's pretty perfect.
If I want to wear less clothes then 70 is a good bit better, but 50 is damn comfortable.
50 degrees is perfect for me, t shirt and shorts weather.
Yes
Why would 50 be perfect? 50 is fully dressed in regular clothes. You can wear a jacket. You can wear a heavy sweater or a blazer.
If you're lounging around, 60 is perfect.
If you're doing work outside, 50 is perfect.
If you're doing heavy exercise, 40 is perfect.
Is a 5/10 average? Or is that 7/10?
5/7 is perfect
with rice
if you're a duck
So are we saying that Celsius isn't intuitive either? 50C isn't perfect after all.
50 is perfect to me.
50 degree Fahrenheit is perfect. Fahrenheit is still removed though
Pretty sure Fahrenheit is dead
Not in the US
10 C sounds pretty good to me
20°C is where it’s at
16 is fine. 16 and sunny is hot, 16 and windy is acceptable shorts and short sleeve weather
144 degrees is very hot. 0 is very cold. 72 is perfect. Fixed it.
50°C is very hot. 0°C is very cold. 25°C is perfect.
Weirdly how that works much better lol
That almost works but 50c is a but quite a bit higher than very hot, 25c is 5c over perfect, and 0c is just regular cold.
I guess temperature relative to comfort level is subjective.
50s is my perfect outdoor temperature range tbh.
Related, but how is it that our normal body temperature is just below the point where water boils? That's counterintuitive.
Body temp is 98.6° Farenheit. Water boils at 212° F, if I recall correctly. That's 100° Celsius.
Haha I'm dumb.
Uh.
50° is fucking perfect.
I love low to mid 50's. Yes I am white and overweight, no further follow-up questions, please.
I would argue that 50 f is closer to ideal than the mid point of any other temperature scale...
Is 50% on the heat in the shower perfect?
It's the perfect temperature for brine though
Depends on a brine. If it's for raw meat, I'd lower it to 4°C. If it's for vegetable fermentation, I'd bump it over 16°C. Actually I don't know what 50F is good for. It's 10°C, just a miserable temperature.
But if you were a brine solution, you'd be feeling great at 50°F
I love a 50
gringo coping.
50F is perfect tho
My brain rejects the very concept of Fahrenheit. Every American I've met has tried to tell me, "Oh, conversion is easy. All you have to do is grok calculus!" Fuck that noise
and then they just start fucking, in the grass, presumably
Fahrenheit is based on how the human body tells temperature and I'll die on that hill.
Celsius is for water and Kelvin is for molecules.
Using Celsius or Kelvin for scientific measurement makes sense.
Using fahrenheit for the average person just checking the atmospheric temperature makes sense.
You can use different scales for different things ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No it's not.
What makes 0°F (-17,7°C) special for a human body? Is it the limit after which we don't feel any colder? No.
And what makes 100°F (37,7°C) special? Maybe we can't feel any hotter? No, we can. Is it the body temperature? No. What is it?
Maybe 50°F (10°C) is perfect? Nah, cold!
If we change 0°F to, say, 0°C and 100°F to 40°C, does it change the notion that 0°F is very cold for a human body and that 100°F is very hot? No, and as a bonus you get 50°F equaling that perfect 20°C.
Fahrenheit scale is super arbitrary and it's hilarious when it is posed as a "human-centric" scale. At the same time, the concept of Fahrenheit scale is unnecessarily complicated and the notion between Celsius is extremely clear - you can easily calibrate Celsius thermometer with nothing but kettle and freezer, right at home, right now.
Also,
Simple enough.
Fahrenheit scale is super arbitrary and it's hilarious when it is posed as a "human-centric" scale.
The Fahrenheit scale is literally based on what was thought to be the limits of human comfort though. 0° F started as the lowest measured temperature in Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit's hometown, and 100° F was his estimate of normal human body temperature.
You think it's arbitrary because you're used to a different scale. To me, having a scale go from 0C to 40C seems arbitrary, especially because I live in an area where for 3 months out of the year, it's constantly below 0C, and it's critical to know the difference between -5C and -15C, rather than just lumping them both into the same "sub-zero" category. I'm the same vein, categorizing 10C as "jacket weather" is borderline useless. The "jacket" I'm going to wear at 10C is much heavier than the one I'm going to wear at 17C (if I wear one at all), for example.
By the way, you can do the exact same breakdown of the Fahrenheit scale, except it's more than twice as granular, and it goes from 0 to 100, like a bunch of other metric measurements... It boggles my mind when metric users use the 0 to 40 Celsius scale up as an argument against Fahrenheit.
I'm the kind of person that hates it when the water's too hot while taking a shower. Friends that I am living with take their shower way hotter to a point that I cannot resist the temperature
How the fuck do you base your own temperature system on something so subjective ???
Honestly people who insist on using Celsius for their daily lives rather than just for science have way more comfort than me having to deal with fractions of a degree on a regular basis. But I guess that's the point of metric, dealing with precise decimels constantly rather than just having a unit conveniently sized for the thing you're doing.
No one cares about fractions of Celsius, in my experience
Sick people do.
Me when my house is 20.462c instead of 20.463c: 😡🤬🥶
Does anyone feel the difference of 1°C?