What are you most excited when it comes to linux in 2024?
For me it must be kde plasma 6 and the wayland driver for wine.
Edit: I made the question gendered by using the word guys. I've fixed my mistake.
It's the year of the Linux desktop! /s
But seriously, I think I'm going to buy a SteamDeck.
Just got a steam deck and love it. I also got the official dock and can't believe how bad it is. I have to unplug it and my TV half the time to get the dock to connect correctly. It works fine for a few days, then stops. I've had picture issues and audio issues and even issues with the deck right after disconnecting it.
Awesome. Thanks!
I completely agree. I bought one in the preorder days and was a bit nervous. It came in, and it was so much better than I thought. It works and it works well, and is fun to use. I’ve connected to a tv and done “real” work on it to boot. It is some hardware I highly recommend to anyone if they can afford it. The other cool thing is my whole library of steam games are there and still playable.
I already have the LCD, but the OLED has me seriously considering retiring it far earlier than I usually do with my electronics.
I've had a gaming laptop for years but I think I did more gaming on the deck in the first six months than I ever did on my laptop. The suspend mid-game, actually using it away from a power plug...
The Deck announcement made me try linux on my desktop again, too, just to see if Valve's claims about proton could be true... And I have yet to boot back into windows.
I've been considering this too. I don't have much time at all to game but feel like maybe I'd do better with a portable than can stream to a TV.
I need to search up if they support all games or just those that have been ported. Surely it's more than what has been ported to Linux...
But my mouse and keyboard, hmm
That's what the "verified for deck" is for in steam. In my experience every game works that fulfills these criteria:
A. Is not one of a few competitive multiplayer games that have decided to not allow Linux players to play. Among these are Destiny 2 and PUBG for example.
B. Does not require mouse and keyboard (and even then the touchpads and steam input sometimes makes it work anyways)
C. Is not VR (for obvious reasons)
If you are unsure you can also check protondb which someone else linked.
I swear I'll too this 2024 hopefully a newer release doesn't appear all of sudden (like just the Retro is Pocket 4 and 4 Pro happened right now, at least for me).
Nothing. Which is great: everything already works for me. Any improvements and extra market share is cool. But I'm vibing already.
It's amazing that Linux gaming is becoming a thing that's better sometimes than Windows gaming (minus the getting banned part in some games). I also like that AMD is making some big pushes on open source drivers, plus their ROCm open-source alternative to CUDA.
This is a great time for Linux users! :)
More Wayland adoption, more protocols and desktop portals, color management and HDR getting closer, even better gaming
NVIDIA getting its shit together maybe?
I think the teams that are responsible for bringing proper HDR support are moving slow and waiting for HDR to get its shit together, as right now it's a poorly standardized dumpster fire of various protocols and definitions and implementations. It's still a bit of a pain in windows and macos despite the fact that official support exists already.
NVIDIA getting its shit together maybe?
Given the recent pace of NVK development we probably won't have to rely on that for much longer in 2024.
Plasma 6, but just as excited for kernel 6.7 featuring:
What about bcachefs excites you? Like, what does it offer that ext4, Btrfs and zfs don't?
Initial benchmarks show better performance than btrfs (at least for some workloads), but more importanty, I like that it offers tiered/cache storage - so you can use a fast and small drive (NVMe) to speed up a slow and bigger drive (HDD). You can do that with ZFS as well of course, but it doesn't have the massive RAM requirements. Also it's much more easier to set up and configure in comparison.
Its got a closer feature set to ZFS (tiered storage is going to be huge for me personally), but a much friendlier license. ZFS's licensing drama solidly convinced me not to touch it with a ten meter pole. BTRFS isn't bad as well, I currently use it, but tiered storage is excellent. Was the only reason I used to consider ZFS, but becachefs is getting to have my cake and eat it too.
Ps: isn't 'guys' gender nutral, similar to 'dude'?
Dude!
What about dudette? /s
I'm Tom Dudette, and I'll leave the light on for ya. (guitar outro...)
The classical answer to a male is: do you sleep with guys?
Heh. "Guy" has some interesting history. It originally referred to Guy Fawkes, because that was his name. Then it came to mean any person, gender neutral, then it became any man, now gendered, but the neutral definition never went away, so we have both meanings floating around still, but the original meaning, an effigy of Guy Fawkes, died.
(I skipped a few steps in there because they're not relevant between guy Fawkes and any person)
I’d have to say I’m eager to see an official release of the rust cosmic desktop from system76. I know it’s going to be fairly bare bones and I know you can already download it and play around with it. I’m just excited for another option.
This.
SDDM Wayland Greeter, to have 100% wayland on KDE
Nothing. 6.6.6 was already released.
Scary number
GIMP 3.0
Is this actually happening in this decade?
Unlikely
I'm looking forward to Plasma 6
Seeing m$ lose a little more market share.
Plasma 6 is at the absolute peak of the mountain for me, however I am incredibly excited about the Wayland improvements within Wine, that are slowly coming in
What are you most excited for in Plasma 6?
Consistency. Both visual, and internal logic. Cleanup of dead code, and migrations to uniform new systems
Plasma 6 for sure. I'm a Gnome user waiting with bated breath to see if it actually delivers the goods.
Always hoping for Nvidia to stop being bullshit. Definitely not buying from them again.
What Plasma 6 feature has you most excited?
None in particular. Just the totality of the changes. Many of them are small default changes or usability changes, but when taken together it sounds like a nice, somewhat overdue bundle.
Not OP, but I’m excited about the baked in tiling. Nervous about Wayland as I think I have some stuff that will break, but we’ll see.
Probably true convergence between mobile and desktop, where your linux phone is powerful enough to be your only computing device. You would only need something like a lapdock (basically a laptop without the guts) and instead of a cable connecting the two, a slot maybe somewhere within the keyboard that your phone slips into. Maybe this exists already, I don't know.
Asus EEE Pad Transformer TF101
That whole line of products was before it's time, I really wanted one of the phone/tablet combos, but man were they expensive.
This is what I'm most excited about. I started using gnome mobile on my OnePlus 6. It's still not there yet but it feels better than phosh, Few more bugs tho. I'm so excited for it and what you mentioned is the future I dream about.
It's a cool idea and there are similar devices, but they never seem to catch on because most people would rather carry a laptop that's still useful if something happens to their phone
2024 - The Year of The Linux Desktop!!!
BSODs
That's already here with systemd 255 which released recently.
That's the joke
does it nees to be implemented anywhere else?
😂
HDR playback
Better ARM and RISC-V support
Cosmic
Budgie 11 (idk if 2024)
VanillaOS 2
SteamOS 3 for desktop (idk when, they are probably waiting until the new open source nvidia driver is mature enough. Maybe they are waiting on wine running without xwayland too... idk
SteamOS 3 for desktop (idk when, they are probably waiting until the new open source nvidia driver is mature enough. Maybe they are waiting on wine running without xwayland too... idk
You don't have to wait for that, when we've got ChimeraOS and Bazzite that work very well, and are more up-to-date and flexible compared to SteamOS.
I'm running Bazzite on both my laptop and desktop and it's fantastic.
I've been running Fedora 39 on my ASUS gaming laptop because it's the only OS that natively supports the utility to deal with the discreet graphics card. I was thinking about using bazzite for the next gaming desktop I build. What do you think about it? I've been using Nobara on my Surface Pro 4, but I can't update using dnf anymore because it would alter some protected drivers, and I don't want that issue with another distro.
Cosmic for Pop.
Very excited to try cosmic
Same!
bcachefs in mainline. It's going to be fun.
I'm excited for convergence and Linux mobile.
Wayland becoming the default for every DE. X11 needs to go.
I'm hoping more market share will mean more applications come to Linux and better support for hardware. Cough cough Nvidia
Bcachefs also looks interesting but I need to look into it more.
And I'm also excited for all the things I don't know about and didn't even think about showing up
Fully Mature Wayland implementation in Gnome.
It isnt?
Work in Cinnamon on Wayland, Plasma 6, XFCE 4.20 for Wayland support, WINE on Wayland, The Fancy Hyprland-like effects coming to Qtile Wayland, basically everything Wayland.
Linux will eventually make it seriously to the desktop in the next few years, possibly going as high as 15%-20% of the userbase (in my country Greece it's already at 9%). But only because MS is going to destroy its Windows base by making it subscription etc.
Check your sources, friend.
2024 will be the year of the linux desktop
Not much. Plasma 6 and any wayland improvements I guess. Apart from that maybe FSR 3 frame generation, but that's not linux specific.
wine Wayland driver
Continued increase in Nix adoption. It seems like 2023 saw a real shift in favour of immutable solutions in general and Nix in particular.
Rebuild after every config change
This is pretty much the whole point of using nix. The system is declarative, so it rebuilds the parts that changed, because all changes are imperitive and atomic. If it didn't rebuild your sshd config and restart the service when you changed the accepted key types, what would even be the point? Coming from a huge ansible background nix feels like ansible on steroids.
FHS incompatibility
Why does this matter? Nix manages all your system binaries and PATHs just like any other distro, so why would it matter where they are kept? Programs like type/which still work exactly the same, and nix imports your dependencies exactly as described in the build scripts when you need to compile something locally.
Its honestly refreshing to see a distro really pushing innovation like this by taking advantage of everything Unix systems are built with and doing something this cool.
Nvidia Opensource Drivers, NVK etc with Wayland support, and bcachefs.
Probably COSMIC. I'm also excited to maybe see HDR and improved tiling in GNOME.
Now that they're working on it, I'm interested in seeing how well Wayland in Cinnamon works. Hopefully it can fix some tearing and stuttering issues in my mixed refresh rate multimonitor setup.
Will also be interesting to see how the landscape with Windows goes, especially considering I'm picking up traces of discontent in their ranks. I think Valve's actions will probably cause them to sit up and pay attention.
I want Proton to evolve to the point where my CAD/CAM software works flawlessly.
I'm trying to adapt to FreeCAD, but I have so much muscle memory invested in Rhino that it feels like being a beginner again.
Definitely COSMIC DE, can't wait to check out all the cool stuff they've been doing!
Cosmic DE definitely. HDR too
Finally, KDE is going back to having some nice bling after slowly removing it for years.
If now they can make kwin stable, I'd be so happy
native wine under wayland ! :D
Kde plasma 6
I'm hoping for COSMIC to come out. It looks so promising and the fact that they implemented the panels using wlr-layer-shell is so great. I think more desktop environments should do this for interoperability
I'm still pretty new to Linux so I'm finding new stuff all the time, I've been very happy with EndeavourOS but I am planning to switch to vanilla Arch when Plasma 6 fully drops. There are other distros that have caught my attention, they're just abit beyond my skill level currently.
Only thing I'm really hoping for is improvements to Nvidia (Yes I will buy AMD next time I get the chance, I built this PC before I had any intention of using Linux)
If Fedora would stop requiring reboots for daily updates that would be great. I might as well use windows for this kind of BS
You can just turn it off. It is the 'offline updates' setting in the updater settings.
Til, thanks!
I am waiting for Plasma 6 too. Maybe it will ship with Fedora 40 🤔
I hope so
And I am looking forward to Ubuntu server 24.04
I'm looking forward to hardware and firmware hacking on a Framework laptop.
What's exciting about Plasma 6?
I'm a Plasma user, and I can't think of anything I want them to change.
Okay, it would be cool if there were more plasmoids. That's about it.
It’s not a revolution, but theres a ton of small features and quality of life improvements, but the big improvement is much more mature Wayland session with improved DPI scaling (fractional scaling), kwin crash recovery (robustness), improved latency in games, smoother cursor, UX improvements (I’m really happy they simplified some of historical UI clusterfucks), floating panel with intelihide and a whole lot more.
Plasma 5 has a loooot of bugs. I admire people that never find them. I reported like 60 already, and currently the fixes are only there in Plasma6.
More stability, better Wayland support, better UI without crazy inconsistent padding everywhere.
Plasma 6 might be what makes me give it another chance. The lack of visual consistency and the bugs were what was keeping me away, but they're fixing a lot of that.
That's what I'm wondering. I keep seeing all this excitement for it but I'm running the beta and it just seems like a buggy version of Plasma 5. There aren't any major new features and there are even less plasmoids due to an API change. Any time I ask someone what feature they're waiting for they never give a clear answer. I think most are expecting something bigger because it's a major version number.
Full Wayland support would be nice.
As a GNOME user:
A lot of development is ongoing in GNOME thanks to the Sovereign Tech Fund. I’m curious what that will bring.
Also hoping that the proposed tiling functionality will be implemented.
Also excited for this. I tried KDE before but I didn't find it easy to configure (too manually for a declarative guy like me). I like more the simplicity of Gnome.
Oh I know this answer! Not using Windows, right?
zfs raidz expansion
More NixOS!!!!
Guix ftw!
Definitely more Guix, esp. as now Guix is available to NixOS
Better mainline support for RK3588 SoC
What Plasma 6 feature are you waiting for?
For me:
Bcachefs, love COW files. I wish all file systems had it even if it naively copied the whole file on first write. Sort of a write safe hard link.
I hope Valve will make the Index VR work again after breaking it with the 2.x updates in October :')
Getting my Pinephone Pro up and running, and getting away from Google forever, finally. Also I'm gonna make the jump from Arch to either Gentoo and/or Guix, I think.
Mee too. Already switched to Gentoo. I also plan on setting up my own NAS.