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  • It could be about programming.dev and lemmynsfw.com stat changes: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4235

    TL;DR: By default, Lemmy only counts posts and comments for active users. These instances also started counting the votes. According to Lemmy NSFW admin, there are 3 times more active users with lurkers.

    • Given all the different ways “active” is defined we may as well just collect all the meanings available.

      Mastodon and Twitter etc, for example, count logging on as active.

      While I can see the argument for voting, it is qualitatively different from posting/commenting. Knowing both, as well as log in numbers too might make sense. But muddying the waters is probably confusing … though it is interesting that any instance can define what it means by “active”.

      • I would say that voting isn't actually different from posting/commenting. It's a process whereby a user takes part in a discussion/topic/post. In an ideal world, everyone would post, but we shouldn't act like active people who don't feel like they have anything to say explicitly, aren't here.

    • Ah, that could be it. I would like other instances to do the same, to me ama voting lurker is an active user

      • Absolutely. Other social media platforms count as active when we mistakenly enter their sites :)

    • Okay, that makes more sense, I was trying to figure out what had changed in the past week. I'm very curious to see how that data would look for other servers too. I think it's more logical to count users even if they don't post or comment, because they are still a critical part of the whole ecosystem if they browse and vote regularly. Even without saying anything, their thoughts and opinions help shape the content and discourse through voting.

      And for that matter, weekly active users and daily active users would be two other interesting datapoints. You can see the daily and weekly users on the sidebar of instances, but I don't know of any tool/site that scrapes all of that info and displays it in an easily digestible format.

    • According to Lemmy NSFW admin, there are 3 times more active users with jerkers.

      FTFY

    • if you switch to daily stats you can see a big bump on the 4th, and a smaller bump on the 5th, is that when they made this change?

      https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

      I think if you exclude those 2 days we're still on a very very slight downward trend, but once every instance adopts the new method it'll be interesting to see what the trend is after that, it could be that users get tired or posting/commenting and fallback to being lurkers

      • If you look closely, the downward trend actually stopped before the change in stats. We dipped below 33,000 in mid-November, but then started hovering above 33,000 for multiple weeks until the bump.

  • I'm glad to see this. I was mostly a lurker at the old place for over 10 years.

    Creating posts and commenting at times was difficult and often they were deleted due to some rule or issue. The worst was when users would message to let me know the post had been deleted and they knew due to some other form of the site they were using.

    In all my years of managing Forums before this period it wasn't that hard to create new topics and participate so I gave up.

    I started lurking here at Lemmy then starting seeing this theme about user engagement going down and not enough content. When I would end up back at the old place after a Google search on something I could see the volume number differences between lemmy and there so I decided to try posting again.

    So far it's been a lot easier especially in sh1tposting. I did run into a couple of hiccups but overall it's been a lot easier.

    I'll enjoy it while it lasts as over time with more users things will change, at least for now the posts are not drowning in comments by the thousands yet. I can keep up with that. It kind of reminds me of my old forum days in the early 2000s.

  • That's good. A lot of communities have been slowly dying 🫤 I've been using Mastodon more and more but it's not the same.

  • dev'd an online course web app and website for a community college. users/activity was very cyclic. could see the hits going up every Sunday night as students tried to catch up before Monday class. usage normally dropped around weekends/holidays. maybe similar surges depending on time of day.

    fedi stats https://fediverse.observer/stats

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