I met the author... a guy who wrote the script for one of the pictured movies. He was doing stand-up comedy on a cruise ship. He said yes, they are all terrible, but there's a certain audience for them and they're quite profitable.
He said I want you to think of me when you're forced to watch one of these. I want you to know who is responsible, and that I'm very sorry.
They probably cost next to nothing to produce, so even a small audience will make them profitable.
I wonder, if you could just cycle through the same 5 movies without anyone noticing.
They are definitely lower budget than 'normal' movies. But even as a low budget it still requires all the same production staff, camera, sound, editor, crew park staff, food services, wranglers, casting etc. The cheap part is unknown actors and not a lot of travel. Source: my wife has done background work on many movies and TV shows. As background they get paid to sit until call time. so scene maybe half hour, but all the background people waiting get a full hourly pay and all the food you want while waiting. You will notice on hallmark they zoom in tight so background is barely visible, this helps not having a large set of background people. in one movie at the mall they had my wife shopping and walking back and forth. it works for the scene but if you watched it closely you would notice the same lady in every scene carrying different boxes or bags.
It is kinda weird they haven't made the Teletubbies decision to stop making new episodes once they have enough to loop. Once they have, what, three hundred? Then they can fill twelve hours per day from Halloween until Christmas. Shift those by a few movies every year and people will catch a whole different set based on when they watch TV.
Wow, that's brutal. "I want you to know who did this to you!"
Who was he?
Assume AI writes them now.
Just once I want a man in a red sweater and a woman in a green dress [sobs].
Now that would be innovative!!
Marking my calendar for Febcbeb 55th.
This desire is actually what started feminism. Trust me bro
Damn. Some very white Christmases in Hallmark land.
My mother and sister fucking looooove these movies, despite how low effort cookie cutter they are. My favorite game while they're watching is "count the POC." The last one we saw together, I got to 1.
I love to just have them on, in the background. These movies are self-aware. The Netflix equivalent has its own universe with internal references to each other, which includes fake countries, maps, etc. I'm no joke invested in the Netflix Christmas-verse or whatever the fuck.
Hallmark is a little less fun to watch, but still quality rubbish. Everyone knows it's over the top. The actors, producers, and writers are all in on it. I'm not saying that makes them good. They are still bad. But when you watch them knowing the content is almost intentionally cringe, it's a bit better. With a slight shift in perspective and perhaps a bit of squinting, you can see the Christmas overtures as nothing more than satire. Last year, one movie just threw in a vague reference to Santa. No beard. No glasses. Just a guy who wore a red coat and occasionally would get 1-3 seconds on camera breaking the fourth wall. He had like one line. No gifts. No reindeer. Never interacting with the Christmas Couple. Just essentially an old dude in red. To me, that's the height of humor. It's like they're just wafting a single sprig of holly over the film in the editing room. I crack up every time.
Do extras count, or do they need to have a speaking part?
Here's a fun drinking game: one shot each time a new white character appears. Happy coma!
they would never dare disrupt the cash cow with gays or queers, or atheists or 'non christians', or a realistic portrayal of a poor or homeless person, or too many brown persons.
And it's beginning to snow. 🎶
I don't know why they would do that if it's not what the audience wants
Wealthy socialite Human Woman had it all, ceo of the top you feel bad magazine, house on top of building and even a tiny enslaved bark beast, the only thing Human Woman was missing was a chemical reaction.
Human Woman receives a electrical waveform, Human Woman's Human Grandmother mush box has stopped, Human Woman emigrated in moving iron box to original location, meeting Human Man also from original location, chemical reaction happens and Human Woman And Human man become human Couple
I would watch a satire based on this.
watch the hallmark channel. you won't tell the difference.
Here’s a script idea:
Suzy Citygirl has to plan the perfect Christmas pageant or Bernard Bigbiz will fire her from her job at the Joyless Inc. Little does she know when she gets sent to Tinytown, Vermont on business she'll meet Matty McSmall town. He owns the struggling local tinsel factory and needs to sell enough tinsel by Christmas or else his grandma won't be allowed to have the surgery she needs to remove the tumor from her holiday spirt gland. Matty is also single dad that was widowed by a freak tinsel lathing accident and the little girl loves Sally Citygirl from the beginning and secretly helps her dad see past his pain.
With minutes to spare in the Christmas pageant/tumor deadline Suzy convinces Mr. Bigbiz to buy enough tinsel to save the Christmas pageant AND remove grandma's tumor! But after throwing the perfect pageant she realizes Mr. Bigbiz is a terrible boss, and moves to Tinytown permanently. She falls in love with Matty, and gets a job at his tinsel factory. With her big business skills the struggling tinsel factory grows three sizes that day.
Mr. Bigbiz is ruined. He realizes the error of his ways and comes to Vermont to apologize. Now he too works at the tinsel factory, and loves life now. But don’t forget, throughout the movie the cast interacts with lovable bearded old man who may or may not be Santa, because wtf, why not?
I love how Suzy's name changed at random.
I mean it's Hallmark, is anything really of consequence?
During cold/flu season, I’m lucky the story came off even somewhat consistent lol.
You missed the best series of nonsense Christmas movies:
- Time for Me to Come Home for Christmas
- Time for Her to Come Home for Christmas
- Time for Him to Come Home for Christmas
- Time for You to Come Home for Christmas
- Time for Them to Come Home for Christmas
Yes these are legit hallmark movies.
So we're still waiting for "Us" and "It" before we crack into the non-binary-centric pronouns, which we obviously won't.
Ive got hundreds of these damn movies on my Plex server specifically because my wife LOVES this crap.
I'm convinced we have a Family-Guy-Manatee-Ball-Pit situation going on here. There's less balls to choose from, but damn if I haven't seen "save family business with a last minute impromptu charity event spurred on by the handsome dude from her past who posseses some talent" 100 fucking times.
They aren't usually direct plot copies, they just have identical pieces that get moved around so they can factory farm these removed out.
You forgot the person the protagonist is currently involved with who is a puppy-kicking narcissist. Source: my wife loves these movies too.
He also forgot the silly, but loveable sidekick best friend of the romantic interest who is irrelevant for the whole movie, but helps to save the day in the end (and sometimes gets it on with the very serious sidekick best friend of the main character).
Source: my wife loves these movies too.
Fun game: see how much of the set is used in other movies. Most of the Hallmark movies are made on the same set in Atlanta so some will share little things like the same staircase or same exterior of a house. Hallmark reuses more than just the plots!
What's a manatee ball pit situation?
There's an episode of South Park where they go to the writing offices of Family Guy for whatever reason, and instead of actual writers, they have an aquarium tank full of manatees and plastic balls with words on them.
The manatees would bring the balls to the top of the tank, few at a time, and the staff would use the words on the balls as prompts for their new jokes/episodes.
If you're on PTP check out the collection "Christmas Movie Posters with White Heterosexual Couples Wearing Red and Green"
There's about 300 movies there matching this description. I'm sure your wife will love it.
What has 15 actors, 4 settings, 2 writers and 1 plot?
!633 hallmark movies!<
They look a lot like the identikit romance books my mum would read. Even she didn't know which one's she'd read before. Be like three quarters of the way in and then go "oh, I've read this".
Pretty sure ChatGPT could create those things by now, such is the limitless array of imagination on offer within.
They don't need anything nearly as complicated as GPT LLMs . They already generate these scripts with a MS Word macro. It's been like that for years.
Once in a while the source dictionary is updated. They sell the scripts in lots of like 20 and charge for any customized work.
I'm certain those books work the same way.
If you can think of a way that reduces work and increases profits. They are already doing it.
Not trying to be racist but it's almost always a man and a woman who are both White - and probably a Black side character if they are feeling generous.
They have ones with black protagonists, the white ones just have a few token black people, often for comic relief. This is TV for Karens essentially.
Know your audience and whatnot
Read that as "TV for Kansans" and it still fits.
By and For Karens
The channel viewership is 99.999% overweight to obese older white women. This is functionally their porn.
If they do have an interracial couple it's always a black man with a white woman. Never the other way around.
gotta get that bbc.
British Broadcast Corporation - they'll sure give Hallmark a run for their money.
Hollywood's (meaning movie and TV producers in general) default is white and straight.
The hetero norm is changing slowly, but the white norm is still very much a thing. Typically for a movie to feature a predominantly POC cast, it's directed by a POC and listed as a POC movie, rather than just... well, a movie.
Santa Claus is my favorite pale male.
I love these movies, I think part of it is that holiday movies are some of the only light-hearted movies around that aren't for kids. I don't care that they suck in real terms or are all the same (something about xmas brings enhances my tolerance for terrible music and movies), I do wish they Hallmark knew about POC and LGBTQIA.
My husband absolutely adored these because they were wholesome with no gratuitous sex or violence. He was a conservative Christian and these were some of the few shows he could really enjoy unreservedly. (I doubt he would have been pleased to see a gay story, though. He's not around to ask, unfortunately.)
I find them predictable and banal. But to each his own. He would watch a Hallmark movie in one room and I'd be in the other room watching Criminal Minds or something LOL
That's not in Hallmark's demo.
That's their trademark, as soon as you see it you know it's a Hallmark romantic, cheesy, family movie.
My grandmother loves these movies. Some channel started playing them since July and she's basically watched and rewatched all of them by now.
Fast and furious XV: The return of Naruto
I live in a small town in Vermont, my girlfriend grew up here but moved away to New York City and has recently returned. She hates Christmas and I love it. Ive been trying to get her into the Christmas spirit. We were picking a Christmas tree when i realized we're literally following the plot of these stupid movies and i now i keep mentioning how i need her big city business skills to help save my Christmas themed bakery
When she finally starts to get it, that's when Santa becomes real.
main character
HolidayPorn
When you have that almost perfect Stable Diffusion prompt and you're trying to figure out what you have to change to get it that last little bit.
That would be the worst movie marathon ever!!
It could be interesting to cut all the movies into even pieces making one movie with the average runtime of all of them and see if it's cohesive.
Im down Too time consuming to do tho lol Maybe I could make a python script or something lol
This is what bland, AI generated crap looks like, folks. But you can still make your own entertainment library. Buy an external hard drive and start a collection of your favorite movies/series (while you still can).
This is what bland, AI generated crap looks like, folks
Except this is without AI, and it's far from the only case. Looks like people really don't need AI to be uninspired, the only thing it changes is the amount of labour put in the generation of that bland crap.
I don't watch these, but they make a lot of sense. I've watched movies sometimes and been disappointed that there are no similar movies for me to watch. If you like a generic Hallmark movie you'll have infinite content.
If you're a dog and like "eating anything on the ground", you'll never go hungry
You just eat what you know you like, if it's good or bad is up to the person itself
Damn, if in one movie he'd wear red and she green that would be a revolution I guess.
I assume this was the same for the Harlequin Romance Novels too? I knew a few women over the years that had a bunch of these books. They seemed to digest them like monthly magazines.
In some ways it's sort of a business dream to be able to keep repacking the same nuts and bolts to make something slightly different for consumers who will keep paying. It's pretty efficient.
Still I've not read a Harlequin Romance nor have I seen a Hallmark movie. This doesn't mean I've not seen all of the Star Wars movies or a good majority of the Marvel ones.
Harlequin novels are bodice rippers and basically porn without pictures. Literate ladies are thirsty but want something top shelf to sip on.
"In some ways it's sort of a business dream to be able to keep repacking the same nuts and bolts to make something slightly different for consumers who will keep paying. It's pretty efficient."
Madden. FIFA. Call of Duty.
At this point, Ubisoft and Bethesda games can be thrown in too.
LitRPGs are like that, too.
Swing sword. Cast spell. Numbers go up. Defeat dragon. Complete quest. Numbers go up. Dungeon dive. Cool loot. Numbers go up.
I love them. I've read four this week.
To be fair, there are only 7 basic plots that exist
Friend of mine's dad used to write some Mills and Boon ones, which is the UK equivalent I suppose. We all found it hilarious. Had to sign up for one the '8 pre-approved plots' in advance, and then got paid about a penny a word. You need to be properly cranking out text to even reach minimum wage - it would be easier to work stocking the shelves at a supermarket, quite frankly. But yeah, not an environment that fosters innovation.
Those who love this kitschy schlock think it's innovative.
Pop and stadium country are no different.
I've never heard someone say they wanted to listen to pop or stadium country music because it's innovative. In fact, a hasty and anecdotal surveying of friends and neighbors says that they listen to the music because it's easy to listen to (ie unchallenging).
Yeah they want a familiar sound they are accustomed to. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Sometimes I’ll go to a fast food chain because I know exactly what to expect and I don’t have to think about it too much.
I was thinking the other day about how "pop" is an artifact of market economics and has nothing to do with art. Pop music for example is simply an attempt at maximizing ROI by appealing to the greatest common factor. I suppose this is obvious, I'm going to stop talking now.
I laugh at this meme while kicking pile of DVDs all with zombies in foreground with boobs and spaceships in background
They sound like good movies. Any recommendations?
Zombalien 1-8
Right in the uncanny valley! Thanks for the trip!
Where's the Will Ferrell and Deadpool one?
I love that Deadpool has replaced Ryan Reynolds because that's basically who he is in public, all to manage his crippling anxiety.
these are targeted at boomers who are already programmed to feel guilty about about any decision that effects profit margins.
I feel like these movies are like pop songs. I just picture a big factory somewhere where they produce these things en masse.
Imagine the heavy smog hanging over the area 🤢
The striped death.
These movies are not bad. I quite enjoy them. Sometimes I skip the predictable endings.
What about the predictable beginning and the predictable middle part, between the beginning and the end? I usually just skip those too.
They'll eventually have the male lead in a red jacket and female lead in a dark green dress... can't wait to see that amazing innovation /s
I recommend episode 3 of the Storylords podcast for a great horror version of these stupid Hallmark movies
Lacey Chabert 😊 Candace Cameron 😊
Nono not like that. They were talking about smartphones and flatscreen TVs.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Well capitalism didn't make those either
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Never saw this guy before but I like his style. Subscribed.
I think there were talking about choosing another channel
John Dillinger Triggered!
"Capitalism breeds innovation" =/= "Capitalism eliminates copying"
It's gonna try all the things, innovative and schlock included.
If capitalism didn't eliminate copying, then my movie downloading experience would be much easier.
