Seriously spends $80 to drive 20km..
Seriously spends $80 to drive 20km..
Seriously spends $80 to drive 20km..
One of the bosses at my work has a massive Fall Guy truck, and often has huge items delivered to work, just so he has an excuse to use it.
"You won't get that in the back of a Fiesta"
That's right dickhead, because we'd have the items delivered to our homes.
Or, and hear me out, I can rent a truck for the one time a year I need one. 20 bucks for a few hours from uhaul vs.... 20,000 more for a big truck over a commuter car.
That's what I keep thinking about. Like sometimes I would love an older, smaller styled truck. It could be really useful, but it sucks they aren't really an option anymore.
But then I think about it, and how often would I use it? I just bought a TV and had to have it delivered because it wouldn't fit in our car. We recently moved, and it would have been great.
But other than that, I honestly can't think of any time recently I've needed it.
20k just for the cost of the vehicle, probably MORE, plus extra insurance, gas tax cost all to save 50$ once in a while on a truck rental.
Not to mention that a pickup is basically half a completely useless car. You can't sit in the back, you can't really use it for hauling delicate stuff... It's just such a bizzare concept for non farmers.
You'd be surprised what I fit in my Yaris hatchback
I put a washing machine in the back of my Toyota matrix.
For real I had a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon a while back. Went to a tool consignment store. Saw a full sized tablesaw with stand. Owner told me he’d give me $25 off if I could fit the whole thing in my Tiburon…and I did. And it wasn’t even hard.
Fr; I have a tiny CRZ coupe, but when I fold the back buckets down I can fit a tremendous amount of stuff in my car, even awkward and unwieldy-shaped things
I fold the seats down in my 12 year old BMW and have moved twice with that car! I even fit my mountain bike in the back many times (until I got a hitch rack because it was annoying lol).
My Prius holds a surprising amount with the back seats down.
Yaris ftw
You may not like it, but this is what peak freight vehicle looks like
Fr though kei trucks are sexy as fuck
Freight? No.
You'd use a sprinter van for that.
I dont like it, I love it
I would get one if they weren't all right hand drive :(
I'd get one if they were freeway legal everywhere
I had a supervisor that blew his entire OT and 401k on $90000 truck and proceeded to complain about how shit the gas mileage was.
Meanwhile I bet a prius will carry 99% of what they put in it
Oh, they would never put anything in it. That might scratch the bed.
They brag about being able to carry stuff then get one of those stupid long cab short beds that are good at nothing
My Subaru Forester with a roof rack hauls almost anything short of large furniture or a yard of gravel.
Does the remaining 1% get resold by shady people in back alleys? "Hey you, you want a deal on 1% of some produce from a farmer's market? Fell off the back of a Prius."
My coworker lives in a downtown apartment with a cramped parking garage and bought a full size pickup to drive 1.5 miles to the parking garage at our workplace to write code. I'm embarrassed for them and keep telling them to buy a bicycle
1.5 miles? Shit i'd just walk.
Seriously, that's a 20-25 minute walk. Perfect, natural exercise opportunity completely wasted!
Not even worth taking the bicycle out.
What a douche nozzle. I have to drive two hours each day and fucking despise it. Would love to be able to walk.
Even a Honda fit would be better!
A Honda Fit would be marginally better. A bicycle would be vastly better.
Or you could choose chaos and badger him to get a Prius lol.
Nothing against Prius owners, they're efficient and reliable cars.
They stopped making the fit.
Jesus. And I felt guilty for my commute only taking about 10 minutes down a highway. However, I didn't have a choice because the only access to the industrial park where I worked was from that highway. I still felt bad about it.
Driving 1.5miles twice a day everyday is a sure way to drain the car battery and multiply the wear and tear on the engine. Short trips are fine occasionally, but sooner rather than later the check engine light will pop up.
No? You anti car people know nothing about cars and it shows. Your alternator would have to be dead if it can't charge the battery in a mile.
Short trips don't damage the engine any more than normal wear and tear, it's not like they're redlining the entire mile and a half?
This distance is perfect for an electric scooter, even basic Xiaomi M365 will do.
Why don't you just let him enjoy what he wanted? If he wanted something else, he'd get something else?
The truck hate on lemmy is pretty cringe
Having a vehicle that emits more pollution, does more damage to roads, and is more likely to kill pedestrians is pretty fucking selfish and deserving of hate.
I don't think it's hate, more like second hand embarrassment.
It suits most of us Americans well! Big, fat, slow, and ugly but full of potential which most of us will never realize! Just the way God intended.
If the people downvoting you really want to make a difference they should:
Stop using leaf bowers: https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/emissions-test-car-vs-truck-vs-leaf-blower.html
Stop eating food not home grown: https://coolclimate.org/blog-cars-coal-cows-consumption
Instead of judging trucks: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=alts&year=2023&vtype=Diesel&srchtyp=yearAfv&pageno=1
And not little timmy for owning that v8 mustang: https://www.osvehicle.com/the-pros-and-cons-of-sports-cars-are-they-bad-for-the-environment/
I have lately been pretty convinced that 70% of pickup drivers don't actually need a truck but instead use it to compensate their insecurity about their small dicks and their fragile masculinity.
I can't wait til we as a society get over shaming small dicks. I don't have a dick but it's cringy to me when people use "small dick" as an insult like this.
For me it's not so much trying to insult them for having a small dick, but insulting them for caring so much about having a small dick they feel the need to compensate.
Doesn't matter that their dick is small, just that they're so insecure about it they need to try and tell the world it's not true.
Two male apes park next to each other:
"You don't fit into the sociocultural group I'm a part of, AKA THE BEST GROUP, because you are not sending the right social signals! Therefore YOU ARE NOT A VERILE MATE FOR THE HOMINID FEMALES!"
"NO! CLEARLY IT IS YOU WHO WILL NOT SEED THE NEXT GENERATION OF OFFSPRING! Based on all the information I've gotten about appropriate social signals for my gender, age, ethnicity, cult, location and socioeconomic status, I am displaying the appropriate signals! So I shall point at you and say WEIRD!"
It's not about actual small dicks, it's just a symbol for insecure men
Well, I kind of agree with you, but also what I intended to say is that I think most pick up drivers don't feel masculine enough, whether it's due to a small dick or something else making them feel like they aren't "real men", so they compensate their insecurity by driving unnecessarily large cars.
Yeah, I maybe should have left the dick part out. A man can have a small penis and still not be insecure, and a man with a huge one can still be insecure about their masculinity and try to fix that insecurity with a stupid truck.
We'll get over it when egos and genetalia lose any correlation.
Not that soon, I'm afraid.
Absolutely. All you have to ask is why they need to own a truck and they instantly get overly defensive. I'm not saying there aren't cases where you need to own truck but the vast majority of cases people bring up don't even require a truck much less owning one.
Let's just get inspired by oats jenkins and his idea for redoing the traffic system and add a truck license, and you'll have to renew it every six months, just so they don't keep it forever
The license would be given to people that have genuine need for a vehicle like this, and don't have access to one (so if your job gives you a truck you can have it, it would have the job license on it, but then you cannot have your own license)
Otherwise they would just tell you to go fuck yourself because you don't need a truck like this
Someone I work with has never not owned a truck, mostly because "they don't need the hassle of renting one when they need to do yardwork and buy a fridge from the store" or something.
So spending an extra $20,000-$30,000 every 10 years is totally worth those occasional trips and avoiding renting a tailer/pickup from home Depot maybe twice a year.
The $1,400 it cost me to buy a 5x10 utility trailer was money well spent. It has easily paid for itself over the years. I sold my last pickup years ago. If I need to use the trailer, it takes 5 minutes to hook it up. Having space to store it and a legit need for it are key factors here as well.
Well at that price I'd argue it's pretty reasonable, comparable to a used Toyota.
The pick up trucks I see on sale are closer to 60-80k.
You fools! They'll have to move some furniture 5 years from now then who'll be laughing!!!
The small business doing the hauling, because the truck owner won't risk scratching the bed of their lovely pickup.
Also, with large vehicles more generally, there's this awful snowball effect where people go "I get to sit up high and it's bigger, so I feel safer! Besides, when I'm in a regular car I feel like I'm going to get crushed like a beer can."
This of course ignores that:
Also it's an arms race. They feel safer because they're comparatively above smaller cars, but then when everyone is riding tall trucks that additional feeling of safety becomes moot as you no longer have the additional height/visibility over everyone else.
And conversely, the reason they feel less safe in smaller cars is because of the comparison to larger cars on the road. They aren't solving anything in a larger vehicle, they're just perpetuating onto others what gave them small-vehicle anxiety in the first place.
The whole concept is stupid, basically.
I have a truck to haul things. Trash, lumber, kayaks, bikes, and I've moved friends and family members at least 6 times. It's a 1995 and it spends most of its time parked though, it's not a daily driver. And I really dislike all the tall and massive trucks now. I want a bed that's actually low enough to be accessible.
I have one because I'm 6' 7" and I don't fit comfortably in much. One of my managers is super small, but drives a lifted Ram. I have yet to see him get into it but it must be funny to see.
70%
That seems low.
Coworker straight up admits he feels safe in his truck, he feels like he gon die if he drives a smaller car
I don't even drive any vehicles. What's that supposed to mean?
Dong is infinite
I only need a truck to haul stuff a few times a month. But that's often enough.
Did you at least buy a smaller truck with the same bed size? or a van?
You can just say fragile masculinity without the body shaming
I have a pickup. My wife says she likes my penis size. I question your hypothesis. Today, I used it to haul fire wood and tow a broken down ATV. Yesterday, I brought kayaks up to my family cabin. It gets used. Pre-COVID, it was part of the first leg of my commute. I’m not going to have a separate vehicle just to drive to the train station. That’s absurd.
Lol not only do you have poor reading comprehension, you have also failed to get anyone to believe what you just said. If i may provide some advice, if someone say something on the Internet that doesn't apply to you you do not have to get offened by it. Have a nice day friend.
Hauling firewood and towing an ATV with your penis is quite impressive. I think it's more proper to call it the third leg of your commute, though.
People who need a pickup truck to haul their humungous penis are few and far between
I want a pickup truck because they are very aestetichally pleasing to me
People can down vote you, but they can't argue with this.
You must be the only pickup driver in existence that's figured out that all your pathetic justifications can be debated, but your opinion on what you want cannot be.
I am that uncle. I'm just doing what I have to to survive.
If I could buy a new car I would. I'd get an electric, self-driving pleasure machine, but no way I can afford it.
Maybe when this thing breaks down (it's already 15 yrs old).
No problem with that. I think the meme is referring to people who spent 100k on outlandishly large and glitzy trucks to spend 100% of their lives on paved suburban streets.
Complete with lift kit doing 98 on the freeway
My sister in-law? Broke as fuck, came across a windfall from an accident that never came up before, spent more than a third of it on... a fucking F-150 platinum. Still deep in debt, living in low income housing, doesn't have a job.
This is completely understandable. The solution isn't another car, it's better city planning and public transit.
You could switch to a small cheap sedan
It's a gamble to get a used car you know nothing about when you have a truck you know is at least a bit reliable. My family grew up playing used car roulette and it's pretty damn hard to come out ahead in this scenario. Best to run the thing until it dies while saving up for a new or like new vehicle.
Switching costs money. From what he said money might be tight. I buy and sell my own vehicles. It is a job. Most prefer to give up a few grand to not have to do it (you never get paid full market value on a trade in). Even if someone decided to do it themselves they run the risk of losing big time if they're inexperienced. Even though I've been doing it for years even I lose on some of these. When I lose, it's usually close to the cost of the vehicle. I can afford that and in the end I average out really well.But the majority of people can't do that. I get all the hate new big trucks get and I agree. As someone who works in construction I wish station wagons would make a come back. But it's really easy to say "just do x y or z" it's not so easy to do.
A motorcycle is cheap, fuel-efficient, and fun.
And totally not safe for everyday driving to me. Even if the biker himself is a good one ,dumbass right next to him might crush him any second
I have one. It also sucks to ride for an hour, you're eaither sweating, freezing or some other form of uncomfortable.
I got a used bolt for ~12k recently. It's definitely more than a gas gar, but not astronomically more.
I’d get an electric, self-driving pleasure machine, but no way I can afford it.
Just get a bicycle already! Thinking your only other option is an "electric, self-driving pleasure machine" is such a false dichotomy.
With the way most cities are designed, a bicycle is not a safe option for day to day transportation for most people.
Or get yourself a nice plug-in hybrid... E-bike
Yeah, I'm not going to spend 6 hours driving a bicycle to work and back.
The parking lot at work is filled huge pickup trucks, while the inside of the building is filled with tiny penises.
We need to find a new way to hate on stupid vehicles without body shaming.
The guys with small dicks never did anything wrong. I’m sure some of those truck drivers have massive cannons the diameter of a coke can, but that doesn’t excuse their stupid wasteful vanity machines.
Guys with pointlessly big trucks have sexual hangups relating to their parental figures. Boom.
Slaps roof
"This baby can fit so many of my father's hugs in it, but it won't because he left my mother and I, and although I had to live with him and my stepmom from ages 13 to 18 due to my behavioral issues, I can't bare the thought that I'm anything like him and that my mother began drinking to numb the pain of having to raise me alone, so I find solace in lashing out against women that treat me well, and will stop at nothing until I can repeat the generational cycle by having a baby with a woman that looks and acts like my mother so I too can abandon my child, because I hate myself."
There's someone at my work that owns a huge truck and they park at a turning corner inside the garage every single day. The garage is already cramped as it is, and then you've got a huge truck blocking off visibility when you turn the corner.
This shit happens in the parking garage I use too and it amazes me. I drive a small sedan and I refuse to park in those spots bc I'm terrified some idiot will sideswipe me (I have actually seen this happen to other vehicles). I can only imagine it's some sort of flex bc people have to avoid their oversized tiny-penismobile.
We have communal showers at work and I have seen the guy with the biggest truck in the company in the showers. I can confirm the tiny penis.
20,000 miles??? Good god get a closer job
I hate having to almost circumnavigate the Earth for my commute!
The job is only a few kms away, the boss just likes taking the scenic route
I'm not getting the major picture here...
This is literally half of all Canadian men. Probably similar in the US.
I can't afford 3 cars.
You can rent a pickup for something like $20/day as needed. Or, just keep an old junker pickup around. But, renting as needed would be the cheapest option for most people.
I keep my paid off subie around, but I do like driving the camp converted van around because I can just sit and relax without having to go all the way home.
Awesome, sounds like fun! I love seeing those
I'm getting old and am a whitewater kayaker. You have to go where the water is which means a lot of long road trips and long weekends. Setting up and tearing down camp constantly wears you down. Now I pull in. Sleep. Can drive part way and sleep at a truck stop. Much nicer. Mine has the bed over the garage so bikes and snowboards can just live there all the time too. Most creek and freestyle boats fit inside too until I get around to putting the racks on. Then I'll also have an awning and solar.
I feel like a pretty good vehicle for a lot of people like that who need a truck sometimes and don't want a second vehicle could be one of the new small diesel trucks, like the ram ecodiesel. 30mpg is more than even most compact SUVs get, it's still a truck for people that like that, and it can haul/tow more than a compact suv as well.
A big problem with 2 vehicles instead of 1 is often that insurance costs so much more, even if you're driving the same number of miles as when you had 1 vehicle. Registration fees too.
one of the new small diesel trucks
There is no such thing.
This is what a small diesel truck looks like:
Nothing like it is made anymore, at least not for the US market.
Yeah, it would be nice if those were still made.
There's an EV ute-sized truck I saw going for sale soon in the EU and I want it so badly here in the US
Don't need a big pickup truck by any means, but I DO need something that can haul a couple hay bales 10 miles every few weeks or so and tow something in a pinch
Currently I just manage with my Leaf cuz fuck paying for gas, but the market is def there as I'm not the only one in my area that would love it
Full BEV maverick please. Ford, you’re soooooo close.
A Ram EcoDiesel was still a full sized truck, the Maverick is the logical option, hopefully they release an AWD hybrid version...
Honestly, a trailer is sufficient.
I bought the Santa Cruz, and I love it. 28mpg city and 35 highway, and I can still pull 3500lb.
It's rated at 22 city 26 hwy, do you really get that much?
The super short bed looks a little less than useful but I do like the idea of an actually small truck because every truck these days is monstrosly large.
How's the legroom in the second row? I love the aesthetic of the Santa Cruz and that it's not an obnoxiously large truck while still capable of hauling and towing stuff. I did notice that the space inside looks pretty tight.
If you need a truck sometimes just get a MPV. Citroen Berlingo in XL version has 850 liters of cargos pace. The biggest Ford Raner has 1050 liters. If someone thinks they will actually carry things in their pick up I can't fit in my Berlingo they live in a fantasy land.
The dumbest thing I see is people using SUVs as family cars. MPV will be cheaper and 100x more practical for this. But people don't buy tracks and SUVs for practicality. They buy them for looks and to brag.
I'm guessing the title is hyperbole but it's still kinda ridiculous even for hyperbole lol.
Nope.. we were chatting and I was saying it's nuts that 80$ to fill my suv.. He then responded its 80$ for him to go to work and back.. So he may be exaggerating but I'm just passing the message...
Bragging about how bad their gas mileage seems like the redneck's version of inserting vacation and cruise stories into conversations
He might wanna see a mechanic because a vehicle, even a truck, should only cost 80 bucks for a trip like that if it's leaking gas the whole way.
Unfortunately, I see it pretty much everywhere.
$80
20km
🤔
Canada?
Heck, most countries that use dollars use metric!
Some Americans in the science community also use metric almost all the time
I miss my S-10. You could crawl in the engine bay. 8 foot bed. Manual transmission. I know those size trucks aren't coming back anytime soon or probably ever.
What fucking hell hole do you live that it costs $80 to drive 12 miles? At $10 USD a gallon that's like 1 mpg.
at the current price of gasoline in the Netherlands (about 7,50 per gallon) it's just a inefficient truck.
Naw, it's just a bullshit number. A large truck driven in poor conditions for fuel efficiency will still get 12-13mpg.
No. It's made up fantasy land propaganda that gets eaten up. This is 5th grade math and could be easily identified as bullshit with a passing glance.
When they have to exaggerate to make their point, they don't have a point.
fuck cars
Yeah, that is a kink of some.
That would explain truck nuts
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Lemmy/Fediverse comment sections are pretty bad about making up personality traits/stereotyping people who do things they disagree with. This thread is wild.
No, they're some of the people it's okay to judge with no other information.
Just like them Windows users.
My coworker in an office job drove an American-style pickup (it dwarfed my Fiesta on a parking lot), coincidentally he was also a hunter so it was just a cherry on top of the douchebaggery
Being a hunter that eats whatever he hunts is less douchbaggy than not being a hunter and eating meat (like myself). Aldo, the fact that he is a hunter, maybe explain the truck choice
Dude was getting into arguments on Facebook with eco activists so I guess he was the reactionary kind of hunter
Calls Uncle crazy...yet he's still the first person to call after getting a new piece of furniture or when moving to a new apartment.
Just because its useful once or twice a year doesn't mean it isn't crazy.
Lmao no.
I call my friend with the 10 year old pickup that weighs half as much yet carries just as much.
And with a longer bed because it doesn't waste space with a "luxury cabin."
eh, I rent them when needed because that uncle is unbearable and maybe wants to kill me these days.
I just rent a uHaul for $20.
That doesn't make it a sane choice for day-to-day transportation. If you can afford to have a regular car and a truck on the side for utility, great. Otherwise, why drive this giant polluting POS, which are usually rather expensive to purchase as well as to operate? Trucks aren't that comfortable to drive imo... hard to see in front of you, stop poorly, turn poorly, difficult to park. When you need to move furniture or whatever you can rent one for a day for $40.
I promise you the amount I save on my payment + gas is far more than the amount it costs me to rent a truck the very, very rare occasions I need one. The same goes for the vast majority of American suburbanites.
"Sorry no, i don't want to scratch up the bed"