Reddit @lemmy.world

1y ago

F#€k $pez

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There’s enough content for me here, and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity; so there’s jackshit Spez could offer, to get me back.
BTW, I detest the repost bots linking directly back to that cesspool. At least provide archive links, just to fuck with Spez’s engagement numbers.
- and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity;
  Is that true though?
  We have huge communities that are either completely unmoderated or have huge swaths of “the mods are asleep” time. And the assholes have picked up on it.
  I definitely suffer more verbal abuse on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit.
  I’m sticking around for other reasons, but definitely not the warm and cuddly large communities.
  
  Curious. May I ask, what are people verbally abusing you for? I did a quick skim over your recent comments and I found nothing really controversial, my profile is probably more controversial than yours and I have yet to receive a single grumpy message
  
  I don't really get verbal abuse but I feel like there are a lot more posts that I click on with the intent of commenting only to read the existing comments and deciding not to comment so I don't wade into pile of shit.
  
  that has been the opposite of my experience.
  and i frequently bring up controversial topics here that would get some bigger communities on reddit rabid.
  and when people respond negatively, they are very rarely an asshole about it.
  
  Block those communities or ask the admins of your instance to defederate if there's not much redeeming content from the offending instance(s).
  
  No. Lemmy had a lull in toxicity during the fuck Spez rush, but my toxic meter reads way higher here than on reddit (although any anonymous community is going to lean toxic).
  
  Yea I don't know where the "reddit so toxic, Lemmy so good" stuff is coming from. Reddit was never toxic in recent years, just generic as shit with the same comments everywhere.
  Lemmy has far more... Passionate users, to put it kindly.
- In general my posts here get less upvotes and comments than when I used to post on Reddit, but the coversations here tend to be more relaxed, constructive and lasting for longer.
- There's a lot of nice people, that's for sure. It's a night and day difference.
- metric FUCKTONS less toxicity
  I really wish this were true but we are absolutely sliding in the direction of more toxicity and I think it's a large part of why users are leaving. What's more is that there's not nearly enough actually insightful commenting to make up for it. Reddit has absolutely lost a lot of that too but you can usually still find something on the field of bullshit. Very frequently I can read 20-30 comments here and not see a single insightful or original thought.
- And if anyone misses the toxicity (of our city, of our ciiiiity) from Reddit, we can totally emulate that here!
  Ummm... I disagree! You're a butthole because my opinion is different. Also, I didn't actually do any research, which makes you a double-butthole.
- I find Lemmy quite a bit more toxic then Reddit and that is bothering me. Was on a post where a cop was full up ambushed and murdered and every single post was praising it. And there was over a hundred posts so not just a couple of wing nuts. Then you got the tankies and a great number of immature posts. Then you got the extreme left leaning slant attitude on every subject that pretty much creates echo chambers along with mods that will shadow ban. Technically working well, administratively and quality wise the experience is pretty low.
- Maybe it's just my feed, but I miss the diversity, lemmy is biased towards tech-nerd people

Well even if I wanted to go back to Reddit, I couldn't use it without a decent mobile app, and all of those no longer exist.
Communities don't spring up fully formed, they grow over time with many rises and falls in activity along the way. Lemmy is still young and we can all do our part to help it.
- And using the mobile web site is a pain in the ass, too. Won't stop nagging me to use the app. No, I do not want to use your shitty app!
  At this point I only use it when a thread comes up in a search result, or occasionally to check /r/buildapcsales
  
  old.reddit.com
  It's not nice but it works for the couple of times a week I check some specific subs that I want to stay in.
- Yeah the thing about Lemmy is that people immediately expect it to be a reddit clone with all the same niche communities. Reddit didn't start off with thousands of communities on Day 1. It started off as Reddit. Then they added NSFW and pics. It took decades to grow. People that expect Lemmy to appear with all those same communities overnight but it's just not gonna happen. You've got to give it time. Instead of posting in your favorite football team's community, you might have to post to the NFL community. Eventually as we grow, more niche communities will spring up.

Now I'm sure that the number of users is lower than a few months ago, but I wonder how many people are just lurking, never commenting/ posting.
- Honestly I love the Lemmy. I do check in every day, but I don’t often comment or post, I’ll admit it.
  Then again I never really posted on Reddit either.
  I tried Mastodon, I actively did, and I still lurk from time to time—logically it makes the most sense for me to use professionally—but there’s something I don’t just like about it. Probably that simply it isn’t my platform of choice—or maybe it is that I would technically need to use it professionally to replace FB and IG.
  There’s so much social media fatigue. I just want to relax and goof around, doing it respectfully of course.
- Probably a lot, lurking is how I use both platforms. There's the 90-9-1% rule for a reason
- Also, I imagine a lot of people created profiles on more than one instance while making the transition and then abandoned the others.
  I originally started on lemmy.world but now just use fedit.uk...
- Pretty heavy lurker here. Maybe I need to start doing my part and raise those numbers
  
  I sometimes have a twinge of guilt about it too. When I was younger and had more free time, I would spend time on actual submissions and not just comment. But I'm too old and tired for that shit these days.

Does it matter if Lemmy is losing users? I haven't noticed my feeds losing active users even if it's down across the fediverse. Besides they'll be back the next time Reddit has another unpopular decision which should take about another 3 months
- I think it very much matters WHY Lemmy is losing users. If it's a fixable problem, well then we should fix it gahdamnit
  
  I think it's hard to maintain a critical mass in an anonymous social media/aggregator. You need enough fresh content to satisfy users, and you need enough users to provide that user driven content.
  If you're only in the popular Lemmy channels then you probably wouldn't notice the users leaving, but the small communities are the first to go.
  
  Good point
- Exactly. I would never have guessed Lemmy is losing users if every other meme wasn't about it. Stuff still seems just as lively now as it was a couple months ago.
- It's weird right? I checked the active user monthly and across the lemmyverse it's indeed plunging slowly, but the content seems to be growing despite that, significantly better than from june to august.
  Though the instance i'm on is very slow.
  
  plunging slowly
  Thanks for a new oxymoron
  
  I wonder if it's just instances going down for a while, I know the one i am on goes down every now and then, and sometimes takes over a week to get back and running. I could see something like that causing the active users to fluctuate, especially if they wait a month before realizing their instance wasn't deleted.

Not very surprising to lose users after the big intake from June. If that were the only intake we'd ever get I would be worried but we all know that Reddit will continue to do user-hostile things. Lemmy now exists as a permanent lifeboat for those who get fed up with Reddit over time, and the next time something big happens we'll be better prepared.
- We need more "subs" like wallstreetbets, ama, LPT... I'd engage more if there were more comunities I were interested in and they regularily showed up on my feed
  
  These will probably need to grow naturally again. We have enough techy users to carry tech-related discussions, but we probably don't have enough users to carry niche communities yet. By gaining more users of any kind, techy or otherwise, we have better odds of gaining people with a secondary interest in those niche communities. It'll take some time, but the Fediverse is much more permanent, and investments here will pay off theoretically forever. Even if another open platform supersedes Lemmy, it will be easy to port our community over to it.
  
  I feel like for subs like those to pop up, the barrier to entry needs to drop really low. We lean even more technical than reddit did now, and to encourage subs like those, you kinda need a healthy population of non-technical people.

Losing users is fine as long as a steady core remains. The summer growth was explosive, so some shrinking is expected.
- Also I'm sure there were a lot of accounts made on different intances before people settled into one account
  
  Absolutely. I had like 5 or 6 accounts created in that period, some on instances I don't even remember. Now I just have this one and my lemmynsfw for scientific research.

Users who made multiple accounts across multiple instances to deal with constant outages are just not using their alts as much. No need to.
The amount of regular posts has gone up, too, so that means the people who are staying are more consistently interacting
- Hello! I am one of these people.

There’s not QUITE enough content here for my short-ass attention span, but I DO come here first and I’ve stopped all posting on the other place.
- Without RIF, I don't ever go back when mobile. I also don't spend much time on my desktop leisurely, so I'm barely there these days.
  With Jerboa, I'm here multiple times a day.
  
  I've switched from jerboa to eternity and am liking it better.
- I've gone from 20+ hours weekly on a third party app, to 30 minutes weekly on old.reddit. it's such a shame, because I was really enjoying the niche communities and especially the f1 subreddit.
- I DO come here first and I’ve stopped all posting on the other place.
  I post here first and then cross-post on Reddit to drive more traffic here :)
- I see a little bit while moderating there, but as soon as I open the comment sections on some posts I lose interest
  A lot of the subs I used to read are now very low quality and toxic with users getting into fights and rule breaking content staying up

Can we leave the cringe self censorship behind? Lemmy isn’t beholden to advertisers and thus has no need to be “family friendly”
- but it seems more naughty that way

Honored to have my meme reposted. Fuxk Spez
- This is how I would feel about it. Stoked someone liked it enough.

I visited old.reddit a few times in the last week, after deleting my 10+ yo account in July and ditching Reddit altogether, and it just isn’t the same anymore. The content just isn’t good like it used to be.
Lemmy has plenty of room for improvement, and often feels like it’s just an RSS feed, but I genuinely prefer it now over current Reddit.
Fuck Spez.
- For anyone who still checks reddit, Rdx.overdevs.com is an a mobile-friendly way to browse. No ads and you can still view nsfw subs. You can import a list of subs you follow, but you can't post (which to me is a feature more than a bug).

Isn't it pretty much expected? There was a massive boost during the API controversy then it dropped off as the number of active users stabilised. I don't think Lemmy will immediately replace Reddit like people want it to, just a slow gradual migration of communities. After all the migration from Digg to Reddit took years. I've got no doubt that Reddit will make more dumb decisions that will push more over to Lemmy.
Honestly I just want communities like /r/framework to move over and some UK subs like /r/frugaluk and /r/casualuk then I'm happy.
- !ukcasual@lemmy.world
  It's not exactly thronging with life but it's not dead either.

I get more engagement here so Reddit can suck it

Yeah, I've been spending more time on Discord lately, but I'm sure not going back to reddit. Tbh I've really disconnected from spaces where I was/would be exposed to right wing extremists and hatred of me. Instagram obviously has it's problems, but the algorithm won't allow me--a trans lesbian stoner--to view hateful content without a fight. If I need to see some fringe beliefs and content, I'll dive head first into the Hexbear pool!

Agreed, I'm sticking with the fediverse for my social media no matter how small it gets because corporate social media is just that incredibly toxic.

We have already matured significantly since the initial rush. There will be another rush, and we'll be in an even better state then.

I cheat on Lemmy with Tumblr but Reddit is the ex I shook.

Since when is lemmy losing users

It's better to have fewer users, as far as I'm concerned. Every sub I was part of in reddit when the sub started was great when it was small, and then became trash as it got bugger.
- The lack of internet points will keep away the karma-removed, but there could definitely be more users here.
- Great typo, keep it.
- But if you have fewer users you get less niche communities that are actually useful.

This place is better for me for all uses other than random web search results where a Redditor posted something I’m looking for.
On Lemmy, it feels worthwhile to participate and interact with everybody. The quality of users helps, but the lower quantity doesn’t hurt either.

I go back every now and then because a community I follow hasn’t fully integrated here yet and omg reddit is getting worse, more ads than posts and posts seems to be bots more and more, won’t be long now. Fuck spez

Funny enough I downloaded the reddit app this week and created an account again.
Unfortunately theres not enough niche content on lemmy.
But damn do I dislike that app. It consistently pushes me away. Maybe Sync app is the only thing keeping me on Lemmy.
- RedReader is almost tolerable, but man I just don't have the tolerance for the atmosphere of shit that swirls around there like I used to. I'm grateful Lemmy exists as a far more comfy alternative.

Hello, new Lemmy user here. Obligatory fuck spez. Not sure how I feel about the baby emoji next to my username though lol

Just throwing this out there: Firefox mobile with Adblock let's you used Reddit without giving them any ad rev
- That's how I use Reddit, that or RIF.
  Still trying to migrate to Lemmy or Kbin. MySpace went down due to Facebook. So something will rise up above Reddit.
  
  Rif is dead isn't it??

I went back to reddit to see how are things going, just one day and I can conclude that Lemmy has become superior.

Redd..what?

So bold. So brave!
- We don't do that here...
  
  Virtue signalling?

💯

reddit helped me by banning me for the third time.
- Please don't bring that altitude to Lemmy. Be nice to other people and don't break the rules.
  In my experience the people getting banned from Reddit are the ones insulting others and breaking rules
  
  Huh? These days you can get banned for saying just about anything. I got banned from r/justiceserved the other day for commenting something slightly pro Palestine. Fucked up thing is that I posted that comment in a completely different sub.

Then stop talking about it and just do it.

I never give up

Fuck Spez.
But I got a subscription for Relay for Reddit. That's a fantastic app.
Paid to remove ads on boost for lemmy as well. Will just have to keep on both!
- Fuck Spez.
  pay for relay that will also go to Spez pocket.
  
  Yeah that's a little unhinged
  
  I know man, but Relay is such a great app, and I'm certainly not using Spez's atrocious app.. Also, how were you able to completely extricate yourself from Reddit? I literally spent over 14 years there...

Fuck the Hurensohn!

I log in about once a month and make a comment on something just so they have to keep my account active. If my few hundred comments can cost them a penny a year, it is worth it.

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