That really is an issue. Shave your head, put an orange robe on and evangelize... I'll try to convince as many people as possible in my friends circle!
I use Instagram (well, Instander) for the bands I like. I wish I didn't have to but it's useful for these reasons. Ditched Facebook but unfortunately can't loose them both š¤
Instagram also has a full account data export feature, and Pixelfed can import from that data. When I used it earlier this week it seemed to ignore my latest posts, which use the webp format instead of jpg or png. But since the import is processed server-side once they resolve that I should be able to import from the same zip and get just those missing posts.
I don't really understand how that would work. I'm on Instagram because I follow some specific artists, collectives, companies, labels, etc., and secondarily for friends. If those are not on Pixelfed, what is there to follow?
Although Lemmy suffers of quite a content draught on less populated communities, it still works like Reddit since you follow topics, not people.
Hate the be a downer but I canāt see anyone but ātech savvyā people joining this. I canāt even get my sister to verify her Zelle account to get money I sent her. Having to choose a server is going to be wildly confusing to most people.
I joined after the Apollo debacle started with Reddit, so I joined what had the most users at that moment and it was lemmy.world. But I already had a good idea of how these federated apps work, so I wasnāt super worried about which I picked. I imagine a random normie instagram user would delete the app as soon as they saw the list of servers, if they even got that far.
Instagram differs from Reddit in the sense that most people use Instagram because that's where their friends and family are. You're posting more personal things there. An alternative doesn't really work for most users if no one they know is using it. Good luck with the push, though.
Yeah this is the issue I have. I wouldn't even be on instagram if it my friends weren't on it. Pixelfed has a much tougher road to snatch users than a place like Lemmy or even Mastodon for that reason. If everyone I know hopped over with me (which let's be real, I would never be able to get everyone to do that because they would run into the same issue with their own friend networks) then i'd gladly move over.
I like pixelfed. I have a pixelfed account, and feature-wise, I see how it could replace someone's use of instagram, but personally, I was never on instagram for its features. I was on instagram because I made friends in real life who I couldn't keep in touch with in absolutely any other way. Meanwhile, I am on pixelfed because I like the idea of a federated social media platform based around images, but I have zero connections on that platform.
I posted to it twice. Then, I realized that, unless I could convince the people that I knew on instagram to join pixelfed, it would never be the same experience, so I stopped. I would just rather post pictures to my mastodon account which has more reach than my pixelfed. The concept of an image based social media platform is less compelling when you don't know anyone there, and this is what Meta is banking on.
Sure, there are alternatives to Instagram that are better, but all of my IRL friends & family are on Meta platforms already and don't want to leave š¤·āāļø, so what's the point? Even if I manage to convince someone that it is important, they might bail at some point because they can't convince the people they know from instagram to join the alternative, and that's how it is all down the line: friction, friction, friction.
I think youāre spot on. I use Instagram for one niche sport I do, hydrofoil surfing. Everyone who foils is on there, and as a result the development speed of this 5-year-old sport is incredible. Someone in Australia invents a new maneuver, posts a video of it, and a few hours later while theyāre sleeping people in America are trying it out.
None of that is happening on pixelfed. I tried it out too, and, meh. Thereās just nothing interesting on there, and itās too complicated to explain to non techies. So thereās a huge barrier to entry and no compelling reason to surmount it. Heck, I have an advanced degree in informatics and I barely made it over the choose an instance wall. My perma-stoned surfing buddies donāt stand a chance.
Here's a good reason. Since Facebook likes to spy on you, I put Instagram on my work profile on Android, effectively sandboxing it. I'd had the account for several years at this point. Just the other day, it told me that my account had been flagged for violating the rules and trying to access data I wasn't supposed to have access to. It asked me to upload an image of myself with a code written on a piece of paper to prove I wasn't a bot, and they still deleted my profile and said I was acting as a bot and that I could not appeal the decision or talk to a human about it.
I agree it's a bit of a pain to get people to join these nerd apps, but man, it beats dealing with non-interactive bot/algorithm, punishing you for fighting back against having your information stolen.
Maybe I should give it a try. I've been on instragram for like 10 years and I'm quite proud of the quality of content on my page (smartphone nature photography) but I only have like 23 followers and posting there seems like talking to trees. Why even bother if people rather watch short videos instead of photos.
I mean, yes if your goal is to have many followers on Instagram. I mainly use Instagram to share stuff with family and friends, because this is the only app which all of them use.
For some unsolicited advice, you could do better with networking on Instagram through hashtags, following similar people and browsing their work. I posted desolate building photos for 2-3 years and ended up with ~500 followers, which isnāt really much but a lot more than 23.
They have made the algorithm steadily worse over the years, though. Back in 2013-2014 people I knew from a niche art community ended up with 5-50k and since then it has slowed down a huge amount. People whose followers increased by 20,000 from 2014-2016 have increased by maybe 3,000 in the subsequent 7 years.
Yeah I've been using hashtags but probably incorrectly because I'm tagging what's actually on the photo and not what the popular hashtags are. I'm also posting quite irregularly.
I'm not trying to grow a big audience or anything. I'll keep taking photos for myself nevertheless but I'd also like to share the best ones with others but with intagram it just feels like waste of time. On twitter I post about just as often but there I have 1600 followers (of which a significant portion is bots though)
The only reason I use Instagram is to see my friends' statuses. I don't use Snapchat, so it's basically the only way for me to see what others are doing. Reddit didn't really have any personal aspect, so it was easy to switch to Lemmy. But I don't think I'm gonna leave Instagram anytime soon.
@Yoz I've been on Pixelfed for about a year; highly enjoyable. All the good of instagram without the celebrities and "influencers". I also follow my Pixelfed account from my mastodon so I can boost to all of my mastodon followers as well.
I've never used Instagram before but I would like to start posting photos, however the vibe I'm getting from Pixelfed is this is a medium for photography art. I'm learning to facet gemstones and thought it would be cool to do photos of my gems that I cut to show my talent progress. Would that kind of non-photography art fit in on Pixelfed?
yes. I follow some guy (gal?) who does ceramic jewelry work. the only way to make the fediverse more interesting is by adding multiple perspectives, hobbies and interests. your content will undoubtedly be welcomed.
@meggied90 I'm not a photographer in any sense; I literally post the same things I would have posted on instagram - restaurants, things I see on daily walks, family photos. I follow people who post their exercises/run routes, dogs, whatever. I got the same initial vibe you mentioned, but I assure you, it has been an extremely welcoming community to me.
yes. I follow some guy (gal?) who does ceramic jewelry work. the only way to make the fediverse more interesting is by adding multiple perspectives, hobbies and interests. your content will undoubtedly be welcomed.
What is there to do? Is it just meme accounts or did your friends start using it too?
I mostly use instagram to interact with IRL friends and follow some meme accounts, so Iām curious what this app even looks like if my friends arenāt on it.
What are some good places to follow on Pixelfed? I haven't had much luck finding accounts that appeal to me. I'd love to replace Instagram, but their algorithm is so damn good, and I'm struggling to find stuff that compares (which I'd expect since it doesn't hold the same "influencer" weight and has a smaller community to begin with)
Because when you search for a community on kbin, you can join communities from the search results. As far as I can tell, in Lemmy, you have to click into each community in order to join, so building my list of subscribed communities on Lemmy will take a while, especially considering all the server load problems Lemmy instances have been having with the influx of new users.
For me Lemmy is more accessible so i use it even that i know that kbin can not only see stuff from lemmy and kbin, but mastodon too (at least following people is possible)
So kbin has more features. As i was testing it there where some conversations about people switching for the better algorithm.
I think kbin is in general (with features) better but i like lemmy more.
You can't be on what amounts to the bleeding edge of Social Media and expect your friends to be as well unless they're all nerds that actually care about such things (like all of us clearly are).
No social media site started with millions of users and all of your friends. They all started small, and slowly grew to that size.
Well said, the problem is, I post nothing on instagram. So my presence on pixelfed is not at all a reason for anyone in my circle to join lol. I imagine since we're all the nerds of our families/friend-groups here, this is probably the case for a lot of us.
Love PixelFed, I just like chronological and tag based systems. This way every user gets an equal opportunity to be seen. Unlike what's happening with recommendation systems, where only a few super stars are pushed by the algorithms. If anyone like traditional illustrations, here's my profile: https://pixelfed.social/i/web/profile/495699973550816234
Your private messages are never private unless you're on a platform that specializes in private messages (Signal. Matrix, WhatsApp (if they are to be believed), XMPP via OMEMO...)
I understand that encryption will not be present but the software should atleast not allow the admins to view the private pictures or messages by default as part of admin tools.
I wouldn't use this until I'm assured of that as posting pictures can lead to being doxxed or they can be found in some unpleasant places on the internet if the admin is not trustworthy
Unfortunately, I can't say the same thing that happened with reddit can happen with instagram/snapchat/Twitter simply because their users don't give a fuck. The familiarity and existence of large content creators on those platforms create a much greater reluctance for their users to make the switch. Better alternatives for all have existed for years and yet no change took place because quality or ideology just wasn't the reason people preferred those apps. It was what it is and even for me, similar to many people, making the swith just isn't sensible as it wouldn't mean shit without convincing 300+ people im connected to to make the switch with me and then again, they don't care.
As does Fedlab (also for Android, more ActivityPub oriented than specifically Mastodon).
Fedilab works well with Pixelfed, Mastodon, Friendica, and most generic ActivityPub servers. The big outlier is Lemmy. I can't log onto my Lemmy account from any AP client I use; maybe the model is too different. Does AP understand the concept of "communities?"
I enjoyed Instagram in its early days when it was mostly just photography instead of what it is now when even photographers have to turn photos into videos to reach anyone
I never used Instagram. I've tried Pixelfed and I don't quite get it. Sure, you post pictures with captions, but I feel like there is emptiness. When I scroll through my followed users, I just see some art and photographs. I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong, but Pixelfed doesn't seem very active for me.
I love seeing pictures of the world from other people's perspective. Urban shots. Nature shots. Any old boring shots like just a side road you walk down, or a tree you like to sit under. I like being able to see the quiet places in the world as well as the loud ones.
I do enjoy Pixelfed, but export is a bit limited right now. If you have more than 500 posts, you can't (as far as I can tell) export your data, Not that I want to at the moment, but I do like to take backups of my stuff just in case. I imagine the dev is working the issue, though.
the best thing is for people like me who just used instagram to lurk it works really well with mastodon or calckey. just follow whoever you like and it'll show up in your feed no problem
Pixelfed seems to only show Mastodon posts with an image attached. Which seems intuitive when you think about it, but the user profile page is a bit wonky as the summary line lists a different number of posts for the person than what it shows for that person's feed. Vice versa, following Pixelfed profiles from Mastodon, seems much more consistent so far.
It definitely is a good alternative for the original Instagram idea (a place for photographers to share their pictures) before Meta bought Insta and turned it into Facebook 2.0.
No to the custom ROM option. It's due to my employer's security policy. I would also never pay for a phone that I couldn't fully control and customise but... I didn't have to pay for this one. The main cost is losing sideloading.
I'm using Pixelffed to get replace Imgur and IG at the same time. One, it's federated image site I can use to share image links on Lemmy. Two, while I haven't found any of my social circle on there, it let's me see all pictures posted throughout the Pixelfed fediverse while a lot from Mastodon. I like this feature because it helps me expand my exposure to users and images I wouldn't have seen otherwise on IG.
I wanna give it a try, but I've been looking at the servers and I haven't found the one for me and what I'll use the account for. Nor do I know of any account on a pixelfed server I could be interested in following...to just follow accounts on completely different federated servers it wouldn't make any sense to me.
I feel like instagram is one one of those apps - at least the way I use it - that relies on a lot of your irl friends having it as well. I would love for them to be open to signing up to some fediverse platform but we're not there right now sadly.
Yeah Iām curious if all the people in the comments that say they are using and enjoying it also have friends that signed up or if itās just all meme accounts.
yep, the same for me. lately my home feed of reddit a bit boring for me. maybe way less content. even i used apollo with custom own api to ignore their official app, i ended up opening memmy and mlem. memmy for lemmy.world and lemmy.ml while mlem for lemmynsfw.com instance. my nsfw stuff now can have separate app. lol. but im happy
If you like Lemmy, you should really try out Kbin. Its mostly the same but better. You can still sub all your lemmy communities but with a much more modern interface.