What are some companies that deserve to be boycotted to death?
What are some companies that deserve to be boycotted to death?
So far my list includes Comcast, EA, and Nestle. Tell me yours, and I'll help out.
What are some companies that deserve to be boycotted to death?
So far my list includes Comcast, EA, and Nestle. Tell me yours, and I'll help out.
Amazon, SpaceX, TwitterX, TeslaX, Uber, Nestlé, Google, Micro$oft
Why SpaceX? I hate Musk and do not support any of his other... anythings. However, rocket go zoom then land without boom is fun to watch. I am genuinely curious why SpaceX is bad.
I completely agree about everything else you mentioned.
However, rocket go zoom then land without boom is fun to watch.
Yeah, Musk is a true innovater by having them blow up the concrete launchpad on launch instead...
The government got more money from the patents NASA got then it cost to fund NASA. Privatizing space hurts everyone except the rich asshole who gets the parents.
why SpaceX is bad.
For example they "decorated" our night sky with thousands of their satellites. Never asked permission. Astronomers around the globe are pissed because their work & results gets worse. Other people who own satellites are pissed because they don't behave up there.
Private companies have no business being in space. It sets a dangerous precedent for the future.
Any good publicity for SpaceX is ultimately good publicity for Musk, who's made himself the face of that company too.
Really? "Yeah, boycott that jerk!! But not the silly rockets, I like em!"
Uh, no. Just, no.
Destroying environments? Wasting money and fuel on false-promises (the Elon way)? I'm sure there's a tonne of other reasons.
Because Musk is a vocal ass and so many on Lemmy can't distinguish the good some of his companies do from the jerkoff owner.
Nestle does evil and is run by evil. Tesla is pushing the automobile industry in the direction it needs to go, but it is majority owned by evil. It's not as simple as a keyboard activist response, so I'm looking forward to the downvotes as I point this out again.
Good luck ever trying to defend Tesla and Space X on Lemmy.
TesLax, the luxury laxative for your wallet
Don't forget Netflix and Apple
I'd rather boycott Disney and Amazon to death than Netflix.
oracle
Isn't that an unwritten given by now? If not why not?
Tf is oracle?
DeBeers, Blackrock, Exxon, Disney.
Can we even boycott black rock?
Why not?
They own iShares which has some of the biggest ETFs on the market.
Although I don't know if their competitors are any better.
DuPont, source of our microplastic nightmare
And 3M. They both dumped a shit ton of PFAS/PFOA into the ground at every one of their factories around the world.
And teflon and other chemicals used in large quantities while delaying the inevitable reports of danger they pose.
Autism Speaks. It has a pro-eugenics mindset, so you'd think everyone would be boycotting it, right? Nope, in fact it's partnered with the Jim Henson company.
Can you elaborate on the "pro-eugenics mindset" at all?
Tldr:
It's founded and ran by two boomers who have an autistic grandson and were very very upset he had autism. That's the generation that would actively try to avoid diagnosis and help because they thought the label was worse than the disease, preventing an entire generation from getting assistance.
So its less about empowering people with autism, and more fearmongering how bad it is and that someone with autism shouldn't have any agency or choice in their lives.
I didn't dig very deep, but yeah, I could see how that organization does a bunch of problematic shit
I'm guessing they encourage screening for genetic markers of autism.
AT&T and basically all of the major US banks
United HealthCare
Oh wait, you CAN'T boycott them. The ultimate monopoly.
Bayer-Monsanto, John Deere, Nestle
Ticketmaster
Microsoft, although regulators sure as fuck help them make that impossible
Wish I could. I use linux whenever possible but gaming, hdr and some drm features won't work on Linux any time soon.
Gaming is most of the way there, except for some anti cheat engines. There's usually still some performance hit though
I've been on Linux exclusively for a decade now and I am super excited to get an HDR monitor when it gets implemented (there was some major work being done by redhat and others).
In the meanwhile, I am still having fun with games, hdr or other fancypants features won't vhange that.
Meta, Fox Corporation/News Corp, X
As far as which companies "deserve" it, it would be quicker to list the ones that don't.
Let’s have it
Sorry if this has already been mentioned in the 224 (so far) comments... but another bad guy worth hating is
Hewlett Packard.
Their
"Hey, you need to have our proprietary ink cartrige in your HP inkjet printer plus scanner to print AND to scan as well. The scanner won't work when you are out of ink"
Is just plain fuckery.
Chick-fil-A
Any animal agriculture company
Comcast / Xfinity. Have been forced to use their services for years until a viable alternative arrived in my neighborhood, paid $110 a month for internet to be down at least 2 days a month when my wife and I both work from home. All calls and tickets and emails were met with "you're not using out router and we don't see issues on our side, sounds like a you problem".
Almost left for ancient Century Link pipe when internet was out for 17 hours one day, called 3 times and finally got a competent person on the line not saying the above. Instead said they had done maintenance in my neighborhood and when they sent someone out to look at the uplink it was magically working again. Filed for a service refund thing since it was way below the promised availability and I had to reschedule meetings because my hotspot was slow and they gave me a $1.35 refund to my $110 bill that month.
Cox too; Comcast's evil twin that never gets as much hate. They do the same bullshit Comcast does, and get away with it. They even put a freakin' data limit on a hardwired connection so that they can charge you more money.
I'm so glad T-Mobile 5G covers my area now. Before that Cox had a monopoly and I was paying almost 200 a month. Now it's 40 and faster download speeds. Ping times are similar.. I'd recommend seeing if any wireless providers support home Internet near you
Yep, those datacaps are complete nonsense and they know it. My bill was so high because I had to pay for unlimited data because 2 people working from home and streaming videos almost everyday always goes over their cap.
17 hours... should have been at least $5.30!
ATT covers something like 99.9% of my city and my street is one of the few that isn't covered while being within the city's incorporated area. I can literally walk to city hall. I know that a lot of fiber was laid with government grants and I'm very tempted to see if they were obligated to cover my street and didn't and try to get them too. I'm pretty sure it won't go anywhere but I'm tempted to. As shitty as they are they're way cheaper (with fiber) than Comcast's Xfinity is.
Most of them, but I'm just tired.
Bro name one that doesn't deserve it.
Newman's Own brand.
Pategonia, who created the B-corp
All of these are literally killing children. Not directly and immediately but according to the IPCC report we have 1,5 to 2 years time to get to ZERO emissions, else we got some tipping points and risk turning earth into a Venus-like planet.
Brother, I'm with you. It gets depressing to dwell on this stuff.
Governments like the UK that insist prohition is a better alternative to harm reduction but continue to profit from poisons like alcohol.
How does one boycott the government? Would I cut up my ID and declare myself a sovereign citizen? As much as I agree with the sentiment, I don't think it's as easy as that haha
Committing tax evasion maybe lol
Ee and giffgaff both suck ass
I won't defend them but they didn't suck my ass yet.
Let's face it, EE are just as twatty as the others.
All telecom companies in the Philippines and Southeast Asia too. They are all enshittified as expected
I'm sure I'm formatting this wrong, but..
/c/fucknestle
Edit: trying this out... !fucknestle@lemmy.world
You don't need the /C/ just a ! And where it is located
Thanks :-)
Every auto maker lobbying against right to repair and every phone maker who remotely accesses people's phones.
In this thread:
Let's boycott the gaming company that we disagree with! Also I guess that company that's using literal child slavery for their chocolate. Quite the disconnect here, I don't think the people making Mario games deserve the same punishment as the people buying up all of the housing market because they can in order to rent out said houses to the same people who were originally trying to buy them
Let's boycott the gaming company that we disagree with
You mean the ones promoting gambling mechanics to children? Not as bad as the chocolate industry I agree but still willing to kill their audience if it means more returns
Right? While entire families sleep outside, let's make a corporation whose sole purpose is to buy up all the cheap homes to make Air BnBs out of them. Totally the same thing.
Disney
Remind me why we don't like Disney?
They have created the perpetual copyright scheme we all suffer with.
There's no reason copyright needs to last longer than 7 years
They also pledged or gave $2 mil to Israel recently
star wars sucks now
Tencent
all of them but alas we live in a society
Tobacco and oil companies. All of them.
What's a company that doesnt deserve to be boycotted?
Costco
ok that one Im confused by, they have good pricing, good products and unions.
FUTO although I don't like their source available license as I would prefer FOSS.
It's been out like a week, do you even really know them yet?
I think as louis rossman said in his video its generally for the best although I would like for Rossmans software to be fully open sourced it's not like he doesn't have his reasons for not fully open sourcing his software he doesn't want his software to be modified for illicit gains and used to spread malware on storefronts which I think is a good enough reason for not open sourcing his software although there are probably some better ways of handling this situation
All of the big ones
All the major meat producers. And fast food chains.
There's been so much publicized in recent years about their treatment of animals, their lobbying efforts, how they treat their employees, how they're ruining the environment, how they fix prices and force farmers to "get on board" or else. It's really bad but we don't care so much because it's hidden beyond our periphery.
I know no one wants to be told to reduce or complicate doing the things that bring you joy, but reducing your meat consumption and shopping at local producers is something we could all take small steps every year towards doing.
Less meat(portion size and frequency) of better quality would cost the same and benefit everyone.
Why Vanguard? They primarily offer passive index fund investments at very low costs and are owned by people that have invested in any of their mutual funds. Before Vanguard, the average investor would get screwed by financial advisors who would skim a large portion of investments.
Yeah, my guess is OP is mad they they are the major shareholders of a bunch of awful companies. But when you’re the largest index fund and retirement investment provider in the world you end up owning most of everything.
Here's my list that I avoid if and where I can. As with everything, things are nuanced and complex, and it's not like every company I personally boycott is outright bad or good all around. I wasn't going to write down the reasoning for each and every one, but ask away if you want to know about the reasoning behind particular ones. I'll also note, this is 100% not in any order (other than as they came to mind), it was time consuming enough making this vs. ranking them all!
Disney
EA
Volkswagen
Tesla
BMW
Audi
NVIDIA
Nintendo
Google
Apple
Facebook
Shell
Microsoft
X
Discord
Reddit
Old Spice
Costco
Netflix
Spotify
Nestle
Toyota
Tencent
Blizzard
Uber
DuPont
Fountain Tire
Walmart
Boeing
Brave
Princess
Moxies Group
Hewlett Packard
Amazon
On the flip side, companies that while not perfect, I think overall are doing good things that I try to support when I can (if only with word of mouth in some cases):
Valve
Framework
Firefox
Pine64
Raspberry Pi
Hyundai
Lucid
System 76
A&W
Trail Tire
Plex
Amanita Games
iBroadcast
Volvo
Napa
Fairphone
There's probably more I'm missing, I'm a pretty strong believer that companies rule most of the western world and that if individuals want the world to meaningfully improve, we have to vote with our wallets as diligently as we vote at the polling stations.
Hyundai
Get the fuck outta here putting them in the good category. They got rid of immobilizers which led to thousands and thousands of cars getting stolen - mine included. Then when my car was recovered, the repairs took 5 weeks and they told me to pound sand when I brought up how the remote start THEY installed when I bought it didn't work anymore.
You should really include your reasons instead of waiting for people to ask. I just reread your list and it seems extremely arbitrary
That would be a TON of writing, which nobody would read. Thanks for pointing that out, as with anything, these are my opinions and I hope you form your own as well. My opinions aren't perfect, and none of these companies are outright "good" or "bad".
Their immobilizer issues (also see the fire issues with the Telluride and Palisade), are definitely a pretty dark mark on them recently, and I can't account for every individual's. It sounds like your views towards them are entirely justified, my main reasons (I have this above in more detail) for supporting them are because I've always gotten utterly exceptional customer support from them (again things vary), but primarily because they've been a leader in electrication, they continue to make smaller vehicles and not road hogging mega-SUVs only, and all around are making very good products right now despite some issues.
I think there's a definite media/perspective bias with vehicle manufacturers, for example Toyota is on my naughty list which would probably surprise alot of people, but they have had some of the largest (and indeed the very largest) vehicle recalls in automotive history in the last 10 years, some causing death and injury (see floormat recalls, Takata airbags, etc.) and yet they have so much hush money and such a "good reliable brand" reputation that nobody seems to care.
Hyundai (like alot of Korean companies, coughsamsungcough) has pretty heavy ties and influence over the government which is also kinda sketch, but perhaps you're right and maybe they better deserve to be in just a neutral category for myself.
I won't tell you to get the fuck outta here for your differing views on Hyundai, but as I noted, none of these companies are perfect and their recalls and issues with this pale in comparison to those recently with Toyota for example, as much as I know this has personally harmed you directly.
Costco? Why?
At least half of these are the “Why he say fuck me for!?” meme. Costco actually treats their employees well, has razor thin margins, keeps profits low to maximize value, and pays living wages. Also, $1.50 hotdogs in 2023 is bordering on insanity as far as value is concerned.
I also have no idea how you truly avoid all of these without living like Ted Kaczynski.
Support
Hyundai
Wow. Really?
I replied above if you want more context for my reasoning. It seems to be one of the more controversial takes on the list, perhaps something for me to reassess!
Can you clarify for Toyota, Hyundai and Volvo?
I'm curious about Toyota as well. They are regarded as one of, if not the most, reliable car manufacturers.
Sure, thanks for asking, as with anything, these are my opinions and I hope you form your own as well. My opinions aren't perfect, and none of these companies are outright "good" or "bad".
Toyota because of their heavy lobbying against electric car technologies simply because they sunk so much money into Hydrogen technologies and wanted to be the winner. Also they have had a slew of absolutely colossal recalls lately for avoidable stuff, and people have died (see drivers floormat issues).
Hyundai because they've been a leader in electrification of vehicles, have always given me exceptional customer support, and all around are just making quality stuff right now.
Volvo because throughout there history there's few if any automotive companies that have shown more of a commitment to doing the right thing, they pushed for safety regulations back in the day and the implications have ripples to today, and still are, alongside also doing well with electrification.
Amazon is one of the most evil companies on the planet and yet it's not on your list but Costco is? Gonna have to completely disagree with you. Costco is probably one of if not the best company in the fortune 500. They operate and live by their code ethics to do the right thing. They've never ever had a lay off of employees, they treat people right.
You called them out for a subscription model, yet don't understand what they are offering at all. What store can you shop at that offers products at zero margin? Costco's yearly net profit is the number of members times the membership cost. Their entire business profit is only the $100 membership fee per person. That's all they want to make from each person.
Edit: And then you have Amazon. Where they use people and dump them. Have a vulturistic operating model. They literally have meetings and design their software to trick people into buying at a higher cost. They'll manipulate anyone anyway they see fit to make as much money as possible from them. They sell stolen and counterfeit products and they know it, they just let it happen because validating products would cost them money. They'd rather just say sorry if you catch them and give a refund.
Wow I must have totally spaced there, thanks for catching that! As I note in an above reply Amazon probably makes my top 5 most hated companies, I absolutely 100% do not shop there or use it, I can't believe I missed that on my list, my apologies.
I did not know that their only profit is on their subscriptions, and I'll look into that as I'm doubtful of that (I could be wrong though!) Thanks for the info there, but I still fundamentally take issue with subscription based models, as well as other issues I note in replies above with them like business displacement, bad personal experiences, and the urban sprawl they create. Again I'll reiterate that no company is outright good or bad, and Costco is definitely pretty low on my bad list (perhaps deserving of being viewed more neutrally by me), the general view definitely seems to vary from mine so perhaps it's worth reassessing.
As to your notes on Amazon again, I 100%, utterly, could not agree more, I just apparently missed them on my list and have since edited them in! Definitely an awful awful company, it astounds me furthermore how virtually everyone is unanimous on this, but nonetheless virtually everyone seems to use them anyways. Some others in the comments swayed my views on Hyundai to change, but I believe my views on Costco stand, based on the replies of some others, it seems the policies of Costco vary somewhat where I live vs. other countries (e.g., using bouncers instead of machines at the door, disallowing people from using even the food court without a card, etc.) so that might factor into why my views on them are different. Thanks for your input, I'll be looking into Costco more about their profit model!
Last minute addition: I did a bit of looking and it seems we're both partially right, while Costco offers some items at cost or at a loss, they do indeed turn a profit off of actual sales in store(again, perhaps this is different by country, and might not be the case where you live?), as well as membership fees, and profit margins on eCommerce sales as well.
Where's Apple?
Edit: oh there they are. Far too low on the list imo.
10th line :) They DEFINITELY would not escape this list haha
This 100% is NOT an ordered list, maybe I'll edit and make that clear. I just didn't have the time or energy to order this properly, if you're curious though my top 5 might look something like 1. Facebook/Meta, 2. Apple, 3. Google, 4. Nestle, 5. Amazon. There's of course companies that are obvious that I didn't included, virtually any gambling company, tobacco company, gun companies (although that's less universal depending on your views on gun laws which is another can of worms we perhaps don't need to open here), oil and gas company, etc. Thanks for pointing that out so I can clear that up!
I can understand a lot of it but I haven't seen Old Spice since the 80s. What did they do? Poison your grandma?
Sure, thanks for asking, as with anything, these are my opinions and I hope you form your own as well. My opinions aren't perfect, and none of these companies are outright "good" or "bad".
Haha, you're closer than you think, chemical burned my wife. This one is fairly personal obviously rather than an overarching issue, but there was a class action lawsuit maybe 8ish years ago over a faulty batch, my wife was unable to be involved for compensation since the class action was in the US, but we were applying gauze and antibiotics, and watching her skin goopify and have to peel it off her screaming in the shower, it was pretty awful. Despite reaching out, all we got was a resounding "deal with it bud" from Old Spice. I refuse to ever use their products again.
Since the 80s? Old Spice had a pretty successful ad campaign in 2010, that's still present in pop culture today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Your_Man_Could_Smell_Like?wprov=sfla1
Ah, another Amanita Games fan!
I was hoping someone would mention that :) Man, their devotion to continue just making outright pieces of art, with incredible passion, and a seemingly small niche fanbase is something I can't not respect the hell out of. No gimmicks, no DLCs, no selling out. They've just been doing what they love since their days of browser games, and never stopped making those types of games. Good guys.
I agree with almost all on your 'bad' list. I'm unfamiliar with a couple, so have no opinion.
Your 'good' list is good. I disagree with several, such as Hyundai, Plex, rPi, for example, but I don't think they should be boycotted to oblivion, either. Except maybe Hyundai, who can crawl under a rock and die. I'm never buying another Hyundai car as long as I can.
I've definitely had some good discourse on Hyundai above and have learned alot, I still wouldn't put them in my bad list, but they might not be in my good list anymore either?
I'm curious as to why you disagree on Plex and rPi? My knowledge of them to be fair is far from exhaustive, but to massively simplify they're on my good list because of (plex) how open, flexible, and ownership of your own media focused it is vs. every company buying out shows from each other and subscription feeing users into oblivion, and (rPi) their education focus for kids, tinkering and repairing attitude, and making open useful little chips without being part of the hellish behemoths of other tech companies. Thanks for sharing!
Nestle
Walmart
Apple, Microsoft, Oracle.
Bayer.
Anything made by or connected to Nestle for sure
They have a lot of blood on their hands.
Google until they change their eulas wotc to stop themselves from doing this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Environment_Integrity?wprov=sfla1
Shell gas station. They bought dirty Russian oil
This thread has lots of company names without references or explanations.
While " controversy" is probably a solid search term, we could do better by including "why" right in the comments.
I know this isn't really an option for most people but consider dropping Deloitte KPMG and all banks that aren't cooperatives.
Exxon
Chevron
Shell
I think the main take away is that this applies to most, if not all, publicly traded companies?
There's a few that fill non critical roles, but generally once you're publicly trade, things go to shit chasing the quartiles. You can't simple exist as steady state and cater to your employees and customers while living slightly more then modestly.
Dave's Auto Body shop
Someone really has a personal gripe on this one ! What's the story?
I found lug nut in my killer bread!
I keep reading everywhere "fuck nestle" and then I see their 2022 FY report with sales increased to 104.95 billion thats 8.4% from.previous year.
So the question now is
The thing is that Nestle owns fucking EVERYTHING, so it's really hard to boycott all of it. I have managed so far, but I don't expect everyone to go through the effort
I think, to truly boycott something, is to actually be invested in it. To really NOT buy or use a service or product, no matter the situation. To look for other products and services that are more moral and to start using them instead, even when the costs would be higher.
What is important to you?
You can hate the system, hate someone, a thing, product, service. Something. But it's your choice, will you actually do differently or still just follow the path they made for you as an option to follow. And sometimes it may be the only path available.
EA need to make some decent games so I cannot buy their games on principal, rather than not buying their games because I don't care.
if government agencies are possible then the nsa
How do I boycott the NSA? Especially as a non citizen!
My government gave the NSA the ability to mass-surveil our phone calls in order to stay good friends with the US. I'd surely love to boycott that.
don't the Americans have an amendment that allows them to overthrow the government? im not sure though.
Camp on a small island
I forgot the name but that one shit company with a U that is literally as bad as Nestle
Do you mean Unilever?
Yes
I think he’s talking about sUbway
Vanguard and Blackrock. Their retirement fund allow them to have a significant share of major companies when compared to individuals
Any company without a strong union.
This isn't an ideological boycott, this is stuff I avoid bc it's not great.
ATT (I get better cell service in a subway than I do in my house and I'm on it because my MVNO switched from T-Mobile to att) HP (worlds shittiest hinges) Comcast, Spectrum (parents have comcast, it sucks. My friends have Spectrum, it also sucks)
I literally do not boy have enough time in the day to type all of them. There's just so many that are awful.
Every company here deserves some sort of corporate death penalty where the CEOs face consequences and the company becomes worker owned and operated.
and the company becomes worker owned and operated
That's brilliant!
It's a certain spooky, scary word is what it is.
Boycotts aren't going to kill a company. They are to influence them.
I did boycott ChikFilA when it came out they were supporting homophobic asshats. And once they announced they were dropping those charities, I stopped boycotting.
I use CVS over Walgreens as long as I can get my prescriptions at CVS due to Walgreens stances against women's health. If Walgreens ever cleans up, I would happily use them more often because they are more convenient and inexpensive for me.
I only go to Shell gas stations as a last resort because they blast ads at you while pumping gas.
Did they ever really stop? Honest question, because I've heard it go back and forth a lot
They're still run by evangelical Christians, so I wouldn't expect a Pride month advert campaign coming from them any time soon.
But yes, they stopped donating to a particular group of charities in 2018/2019. Part of the "then they started donating again" claim was timing and tax records, but the actual donation was made before they changed policy and stopped.
At most gas stations, you can mute the ads by pushing the second from the top button, sometimes on the left side sometimes on the right.
I hate the ads too, but muting makes them bearable.
Since these tricks have become common knowledge, they're all being disabled. New pumps cannot be silenced.
If you need another reason to get an EV, you don't get ads when you charge at home.
I've seen this mute mentioned, but never had it work. Is it for real? Every place has these ads now 😐 I don't get fuel on my personal vehicle very much much but I drove a lot for work and it is awful.