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Landlord charged with hate crime, accused of stabbing 6-year-old tenant to death allegedly because family is Muslim

www.cnn.com Landlord charged with hate crime, accused of stabbing 6-year-old tenant to death allegedly because family is Muslim | CNN

A Chicago-area landlord has been arrested and charged with murder and hate crimes after authorities said he stabbed and killed a 6-year-old boy and seriously wounded his mother, allegedly because the tenants are Muslim.

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Thanks Republican party! Your rhetoric, bullshit, and gaslighting of your voters caused this.
- Also Fox News.
  And to be honest, the problem is much deeper.
  America was founded on racism and slavery. The belief that white people are superior to brown and black people sits very deep with many Americans.
  The enthouisam of those Americans to see Palestinian children die in Gaza is just vile and disgusting.
  I really hope that the more progressive and enlightened Americans can figure out how to get rid of it.
  
  The enthouisam of those Americans to see Palestinian children die in Gaza is just vile and disgusting.
  The real irony is many of those same folks are anti-Jewish in nearly every other context.
  I really hope that the more progressive and enlightened Americans can figure out how to get rid of it.
  I thought a lot of this shit was settled already when I was a kid. Turns out it not only wasn't, but we've managed to roll some things backwards since then. I waffle between being sure we've got the critical mass to make lasting change now and beingg sure my great grandkids are going to be fighting and arguing over all these same issues.
  
  War is hell and Israel is teaching Palestine why it is.
- He's 71 and obviously mentally ill. And yes, rightwing stochastic terrorism led him to this path.

Conservatives are so fucking cowardly, they’re afraid of children now? When will that entire party be officially considered a hate group? Because i think now would be a good time.
- (Continuing:)
  "So you care about people with jobs?"
  Conservatives: Hah! Unions shouldn't be legal, workers are lucky to get paid. We should eliminate minimum wage, let the free market decide what you're worth, if anything.
  "You support the free market... So you don't mind my selling pride accessories and clothing?"
  Conservatives: Pride is pornographic, and endangers children. We need to restore morality and decency in society, keep children safe!
  "In that case, you surely condemn child trafficking, abuse and pedophilia?"
  Conservatives: hey it's fine for adult men to have relationships with teenage girls, that's when they're most fertile! Plus the Bible has no problems with it.
  "The Bible also says to love your neighbor, turn the other cheek."
  Conservatives: That's weak minded effeminate liberal nonsense, we should rule with iron fists and show no mercy.
  "Are you saying you do know how to rule?"
  Conservatives: lol we can't even decide who to elect as our leader, much less govern effectively. Honestly we're just here for the grift and free healthcare.
  "..."
  
  Spot on!
- Ron DeSantis is currently afraid of a 15 year old who asks him questions. His security detail treats the kid like a security threat
  
  Currently...several months ago
- They are afraid of everything that's doesn't fit into their little religious bubble. Years of brainwashing with 24/7 "news" cycles telling them what to be afraid of (anything but them).
  
  The people that make that "news" need to be tried in The Hague.
- "now"? Remember that weatherman who threatened to shoot a young girl because she dared to ring his doorbell in 2023?
  “A child just rang my doorbell. Folks you do NOT ring doorbells in 2023. My 6 was loaded. Keep your kids away”
  https://nypost.com/2023/05/03/texas-weatherman-slammed-after-warning-kids-from-ringing-doorbells/
- Wtf? You people are insane
  
  You make a solid arguments defending your point.
  Oops, wrong user

The boy was stabbed 26 times and succumbed to his injuries, the sheriff’s office said.
The 32-year-old woman, who had more than a dozen stab wounds, is recovering at the hospital and is expected to survive, the office said.
- What kind of sick piece of shit has the capability to stab a 6 year old once much less 26 times?
  
  Extremists who have fallen for the dehumanization of Muslims. It's just another example of why all the dehumanization and pro-genocide rhetoric coming out of Israel's government and social media is so dangerous.
  
  A MAGA piece of shit. They’re terrified of everything now.
  
  The same type of people that are capable of stabbing babies in their cribs.
  At least in this case no one is making any excuses.

A 6 year old was stabbed 26 times.
#26 TIMES!!!
I have a nephew around that age. He fell off his bike 2 weeks ago and cried his eyes out because he scraped his knee on the road.
The fact that the coward is so old too. He lived a full life. Whether he lives or does in prison is irrelevant. No matter what his punishment is, it's unjustified.
26 times man. The poor mom. Fuck, imagine escaping the hell in Palestine, thinking you've finally made it and can actually make a life in the US, and this is what you get. Life is so incredibly unfair for some. That's what conservatives don't understand. They simply cannot fathom any scenario that doesn't affect them personally.
- “28 stab wounds!”
- Fuck, imagine escaping the hell in Palestine, thinking you've finally made it and can actually make a life in the US, and this is what you get.
  Well I'm going to get a tiny bit of hate for this, but both her and the killer went to live on the graves of the Native Americans who were genocided to free that land. So maybe it's not entirely as innocent as you describe it
  
  Well I'm going to get a tiny bit of hate for this
  Ha, well at least you're aware.
  both her and the killer went to live on the graves of the Native Americans who were genocided to free that land. So maybe it's not entirely as innocent as you describe it
  Neither her or the scum that killed her child were responsible for the Genocide of the Native Americans.
  A lady escaped the hell of Palestine and ended up losing her child in a horrific and extremely violent murder. This is not the time to mention the Natives. The only people who need to hear about them are the people choosing to govern the nation.

What the fuck is it with all these comments taking the horrific news of a 6 year old being stabbed 26 times in a hate crime.... and they respond with some witty "gotcha" comments against the other side? Like am I crazy? Did anyone else get that vibe?
Anyway so...
On Saturday, Israel’s military 
Ah. Just when I was wondering why they even bothered to write and publish this tragedy that so often gets ignored .... yes that's right! That shit is trending!
I think I fucking hate the internet now.
- Welcome to the wonderful world of bilateral genocide.
- I'm sure a good portion of them are from the Hexbear community that many have defederated from. I'm glad for defederation because I don't have to see their toxic, disrespectful comments. People who want to leave defederation up to individuals must not be familiar with the Paradox of Tolerance.
  
  Here's the problem I have with the whole wack-ass federation system:
  Those Hexbear trolls could just make accounts on other instances and keep messing with people without consequences.
  Most major Lemmy instances aren't heavily moderated and the ones that are are only modded to serve the emotional whims of the mods and admins, and not for the benefit of the users.
  The whole-ass structure still has a hierarchy and therefore is still problematic.
  
  I usually agree with this sentiment, but I honestly think Hexbear users have had better takes than the other average user on this. It's generally not the hexbear users I see trying to justify violence in this case. Mostly they're against it. I have plenty of issues with hexbear, but at least be accurate with criticism.

Everything about this is just so fucking horrible. The kid just celebrated a birthday, I've got toddlers around the same age, I can't even imagine what kind of person could do that to another person, let alone a kid that young. The attacker is a 71 year old man, so basically he's dying in prison now, probably deluded by some BS propaganda on Fox News or Newsmax or whatever the fuck.
- All I want for Christmas is for those that own and profit off of right wing propaganda networks to get what they deserve.
  (Insert the most grotesque form of torture you can imagine here)
  That would be a nice start.
  Fuck crime, fuck immigration, fuck the national debt, the biggest problem facing America is the unfettered spread of completely untrue propaganda as "fact" by "legitimate" news sources that has seemingly 2 purposes: keep Republicans in power, and make conservatives hate/angry at their fellow citizens.

"We are all domestic terrorists." - Republicans.

Speech is free, but should still have consequences. This country has been very openly hostile to people of all darker colors. I was so deluded growing up thinking of the melting pot. But all that are lies.
- I was so deluded growing up thinking of the melting pot.
  Me too! I made it to my twenties thinking racism and bigotry were solved problems except a few corner cases. It gave me blinders that I don't think I fully shook off until I was in my late forties.

Trumps fault
- Okay I'm ignorant on this one.. can someone tell me how? Idk how to begin to Google this and I'm genuinely asking.
  
  Trump’s campaign and political rhetoric has escalated violence against minorities in general- and in particular Muslim and hispanic people; who he used as scapegoats.
  His rhetoric has normalized the concept of political violence emboldening the the far-right to act in exactly this manner.
  
  This is pretty much all you need.
  https://presswatchers.org/2022/08/the-phrase-youre-looking-for-is-stochastic-terrorism/
  
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Conservatives are terrorists. Let's call a spade a spade.
As an aside, there's several stories of conservative Qanon parents killing their kids too. CPS should remove children from their parents if they are conservatives homeschooling and not vaccinating.
- They're proud of that fact.
  
  My god.

What the fuck

That's awful. Just awful.

Jeezes. RIP kid. The right has let these people think this is right.

That's enough Lemmy for today.

Why are so many comments raging against conservatives? Not just in this post but in others too. The article doesn't mention political allegiance. Where does politics come into it?
Edit: lol, a few downvotes but no answers. Come on, enlighten me. I'm not American, and I feel out the loop.
- Generally speaking its usually conservatives who freak the fuck out about muslims. Especially since its an older guy who was probably being fed conservative propaganda via talk radio and fox news. They have a noted history of dehumanizing anyone who well I cant give a good example other than saying those they "other" pretty hard to give a non broad definition when the old rule of thumb of them going after non WASPs is becoming less of a rule itself.
  Also generally speaking when crimes like this happen with more liberal or left leaning folks its completely scattershot on who they target. Or its against a known factor who they had a grudge against.
  Mind you I aint saying if this guy was conservative or not who knows maybe he's devolopt fucking Dementia and got taken back to the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and promptly had a fucking mental break.

Wtf is hate crime? This is murder, not a posting on Xitter.
EDIT: Got it. Just in my country murder based on "political, ideological, racial or religious hate or enmity to some group" counts as worse murder, not as two separate crimes.
- I'll save you some time and give you the definition by merriam webster:
  any of various crimes (such as assault or defacement of property) when motivated by hostility to the victim as a member of a group (such as one based on color, creed, gender, or sexual orientation)
  It's murder (a crime) with racism as the main motivator.
  
  Just gonna pop in for a moment. Murder has its own charges. A hate crime, in this case, will tack on additional charges. Potentially keep them from harming their community for longer.
  Of course jail is privatized and the perpetrator will no doubt be abused, either by guards or inmates.
  The American penal system is flawed to its core, but societies do have a need to house harmful individuals. Where that line is is up for debate by better minds than mine.
- Hate crime (not hate speech) is an aggravating circumstance to a given crime (in this case, murder) that in many places carries a harsher sentence.
  That this is a murder is obvious. That this may be part of some "retaliation" against Muslims is what makes this world news (though not in the Reddit/Lemmy sense).
  
  Ah.
- A hate crime is a crime that specifically targets a member of a protected class due to their membership in a protected class. It warrants additional punishment since it may make members of the protected class more hesitant to participate in civil society (for example, after hearing about this murder, a Muslim parent might be afraid to let their child go to a friend's house).

Typical landlord mentality
- I hate landlords too, but killing six year old tenants in cold blood with a knife is - thankfully - very atypical landlord behavior.
  
  it's so weird, right? you'd assume that the landlord has seen the mother and child before...and after the whole israel-palestine conflict, he just suddenly becomes violent towards them? the propaganda he watches must be super unhinged
  
  hoping that it stays atypical
  
  It is?
  
  This landlord that was involved in the incident in the Chicago area this week...
  The one that killed a tenant?
  Yeah.
  Yeah, that’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.
  Well, how was it un-typical?
  Well there are a lot of these landlords owning rental properties around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don’t want people thinking that landlords aren’t safe.
  Was this landlord safe?
  Well, I was thinking more about the other ones.
  The ones that are safe?
  Yeah, the ones that don't kill their tenants.
  Well, if this wasn’t safe, why did it own the property?
  I’m not saying it wasn’t safe, it’s just perhaps not quite as safe as some of the other ones.
  Why?
  Well, some of them are raised so that they don't kill their tenants at all.
  Wasn’t he raised to not kill his tenants?
  Well, obviously not.
  How do you know?
  Well, because he stabbed a six year old boy twenty-six times, and his mother more than a dozen times. It’s a bit of a giveaway. I’d just like to make the point that that is not normal.
  Well what sort of housing standards are these landlords held to?
  Oh, very rigorous realty standards.
  What sort of thing?
  Well, they're not supposed to stab their tenants for a start.
  And what other things?
  Well, there are regulations governing the materials their apartments can be made of.
  What materials?
  Well, cardboard’s out.
  And?
  No cardboard derivatives.
  Like paper?
  No paper. No string. No sellotape.
  Rubber?
  No, rubber’s out. Umm, they’ve got to have a toilet. There’s a minimum room count requirement.
  What’s the minimum room count?
  Oh, one I suppose.
  thank you Clarke and Dawe
- Maybe for a Zionist

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