Vaccine research vs. anti-vax research

Imagine being the model. Alright, you look amazing. Now drop your pants and pretend to take a shit. Yeah thats it, just a hundred more photos in different lighting. Perfect, thats the one we upload to the internet
- I wonder if she lost the feeling in her legs from sitting on the shitter that long for a photoshoot?

That science lady’s just pretending. She’s sitting there making breakfast. I can see the glass of orange juice in front of her, and pancake batter in the red bowl. Science is a liar sometimes!
- Probably a picture of a quality control lab in a food factory. They're pretty anal about everything being within spec for safety, product consistency and legal reasons.
  
  Anal and food quality control are two things I did not want to see in a comment together
  
  Certainly explains the short sleeves of the lab coat!
- That may or may not be true but there's a good chance there's some dehydrated milk in the lab
- She's not pretending she's just creating biased propaganda funded by Bill Gates and George Soros so the government can implant us with 5G mind-control microchips to make us autistic zombies.
  /s
- And it's going to be the best damn orange juice you've ever tasted

While I'm here, everyone, please get your flu and COVID shots this winter, vaccines work, so don't get sick, and don't get other people sick.
- Got mine! 10/10 will definitely do again
  
  Getting a shot and then immediately walking to the end of the queue for another like it's Six Flags.
- Yeah.. For people saying COVID is "just the flu", I had a friend who ended up in hospital with COVID.. When I got covid and thought I may have spread it to her (fortunately she got lucky and somehow didn't get it) , she pretty much started prepacking for hospital.
  It's still a super serious virus, same as the real flu..
  
  I know four people who ended up in the hospital from COVID, one in a medically induced coma for a couple of weeks. All except one of them is in their 30's or 40's and in good physical condition, the exception is a friend's young child who is in the ICU right now and they're not sure she'll survive…
- Also get your dogs rabies vaccines! We are getting dangerously close to having less than 80% of the dogs in the US vaccinated. This will cause pockets of disease in your pets.
- I just went to sign up for my covid shot and it asked me to update my insurance information. I have no fucking answers for them so I stopped filling out the form.
  
  Have you tried telling them you don’t have insurance
- I highly recommend staggering them though. I did them both together last year and felt so sick that I had to take a day off of work (still better than COVID or Flu). This year, I had a COVID booster and I'm getting a flu shot Monday. The COVID shot did nothing to me but give me a sore arm and flu shots never do anything.
- Flu shots are only given to the elderly and vulnerable where I live. It's weird to see people talking about getting the flu shot like it's a normal thing.
- I'll get my flu shot once my cold mostly resolves. My entire face feels like it's about to sneeze 24/7 and it's like a personal hell
- While I’m here, everyone, please get your flu and COVID shots this winter, vaccines work, so don’t get sick, and don’t get other people sick.
  How? as it has been demonstrated that it does not protect against transmission?
  But take your shots please.
  
  Would've been better to say something like: Don't get as sick and potentially die when you do catch one or both of these viruses. Also stay home when you're sick.
  
  It does reduce transmission it just doesn't reduce it to 0%. Life is not so black and white.
  
  It does technically reduce transmission potential, though indirectly.
  If you do contract covid or the flu after having been vaccinated, you are less likely to have severe symptoms, including coughing and sneezing. If you're not coughing up a lung all over the place, you're not spreading as much as someone who is hocking loogeys over everyone else.
  
  Anti vaxxers need your own island. You'd... "sort yourselves out"... in about 10 years.

Damn, I didn't even realize I'm doing anti-vax research as i type this
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Odd that the people who question vaccines are the same people who don't question the medicines they put into their mouths when they get sick. Do they know that vaccines and medicines are researched and manufactured in a similar way?
- They probably should question them. Even something as seemingly benign as Paracetamol is not without its issues if used too often, or after alcohol. It can do serious harm. Most medicine can.
  Another fun medicine fact. Australia banned the sale of pseudoephedrine from store shelves quite some years ago to try and reduce domestic amphetamine production. Ever since, all of the major pharma brands have sold phenylephrine based cold and flu medicine as a replacement. Our Therapeutic Goods Administration recently found that this preparation is no better than placebo. We're talking about a billion dollar industry that has been knowingly selling snake oil for ten years.
  I guess what I'm saying is a healthy dose of skepticism and knowledge seeking should be applied to anything you are putting in your body or exchanging money for. The pharmaceutical industry are not saints. They're just as driven by profit incentives as every other business.
  
  They have known since 2009
  I don't think it's some conspiracy that they have known and hid it. And at least in the states you can still get the real stuff behind the counter too with ID.
  I'm not discrediting anything you said though just adding on.
  
  This ^. There are so many medications out there that either do nothing, or the side effects are worse than what they're treating. Pay attention to what you're taking, and look into everything. The Pharma industry is about money. That's it. Money. They don't care about making you better, they care about what kind of profit they can make off of a new drug. There's not a single pharma company that can be trusted. And this isn't only drugs that they are more worried about making money on, vaccines too. You don't really think the pharma companies came out with a COVID vaccine because it was best for humanity do you? They knew the government would pay whatever they asked for the vaccines, so they pushed them out as fast as they could. Work/doesn't work? Doesn't matter, as long as they made a profit.
- These people will drink bleach if someone tells them to https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/10/florida-men-sentenced-to-years-in-prison-for-selling-bleach-as-miracle-cure/
  Anti-vaxxers aren't anti-science because that would imply they understand science. They're anti-knowledge and anti-reason which is far more dangerous.
  
  Lol it was Harvard that said to drink bleach
- strange that people forgot about H1N1 vaccine that they should rush on the first experimental shit - created 3 month after first chinese cases).
  strange that people doesn't get that the vaccine campaign started when the virus were not anymore as strong and the deaths were already reducing.
  strange that people can't read stats and demographics, why injecting our kids?!
  strange that people doesn't think that the lack of early support could lead to stronger illness development if not, death.
  my friend got Covid (alpha), it was pretty bad but he also got nothing as treatment, just basic painkiller and O2, nothing else. Fortunately for him, he was in his mid 40 and strong, "just" ended up with a hole in his lungs due to excessive O2.
  AND Finally, the binary vision that people against Vaxzevria and co are against vaccines is highly infuriating to me. Get you shot and leave me alone.
  
  Strange that people think that the COVID-19 vaccine is "rushed" (it is not, the technology is 30 years old), when many other drugs were also rushed. Strange that most drugs have side effects but people only question when it is the vaccines that show it. Strange that the same people never question chemotherapy. Strange that they also don't question the potential of addiction from painkillers and opioid-based medicines despite overprescription leading to opioid epidemic in the United States. The same people would also probably demand for antibiotics on common flu, even though antibiotics only work on bacterial infections, and not on viral ones such as the common cold, which is now resulting to concern of evolution of antibiotic-resistant diseases.
  It is though people prefer the comfort of therapeutic medicines, even if the efficacy is little or perceived, and regardless of side effects, instead of the feverish side effects that vaccines could give despite the overall benefits outweighing the risk of getting full blown sickness without taking it. It is though people are myopic, hedonistic creatures of comfort who would forgo long term safety for short term convenience.
  I really doubt we'd survive in the next 100 years.
  
  So which courses did you find most impactful on that view while studying immunology? Or do you already work in bleeding-edge vaccine research?
  
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  Strange how you apparently never thought to ask yourself "what if I'm wrong and the entire medical field is right?"
  The lies you're spreading kill people. This essentially makes you a murderer. Great job spreading vaccine misinformation. There's a special place in hell for people like you.

- Not to kill your joke but women do sit to pee as well.
  
  Maybe That Lady stands to pee and Banana has access to that intel?
- I’m bewildered, too. The only thing keeping me from flying into a confused, indignant rage is the thought that a lab is kind of like a kitchen.

What great ideas didn’t begin as a thought on the toilet? /s
- The ones that started in the shower?
- Supposedly Newton's idea of gravity but that story with the apple could just be a cover-up.
  
  I mean. Maybe that's why he was squatting under the tree?
  
  Well it was all downhill after that, so not sure it was great you know!
  
  Well depends on how you define toilet. The flushing toilet was invented after issac newtons life so it definitely wasnt on what what would currently be considered a toilet.
- Flux capacitor was thought of on the toilet I believe.
  
  I think it was thought of after falling off a toilet, so toilet-assisted?
- It's a little known fact that Newton was pooping under that apple tree when the apple fell on his head.

I'm glad I got my OTA covid update with the recent emergency broadcast, cellphones definitely ON! Vaccine fully activated

Fortunately, survival of the fittest and anti vaxxers love things like those anti-5g pendants.... Many of which are radioactive

The truth is somewhere in between, as always (/s if not obvious)

I dont care for how this meme seems to be shitting on toilet research. Not defending the anti-vaxer but you can learn quite a bit while on the toilet
- Learning isn't the same as researching.

The tags should be switched for the images. Vaccine scientists let us all down. Don't think I'll ever trust vaccines ever again.

Didn't pfizer have to be court ordered to release the results of their testing with the vaccine though? Whether the vaccine works or not that's shady as hell
- Yea Pfizer as a company is deeply efficient at marketing and shareholder capital.

For my part, I was listening to a doctor McCullough testifying in front of a senate committee. Talking slowly, calmly with experience and common sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM
I never seen the so called expert defending the vaccine who was not treating me like a dumb and a potential assassin.
- My dude are you okay? You fell for an idiot because he was talking calmly?
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- Kind of wild you got down voted for showing people credible sources that raise concern. I don't think they want to hear it and I'm not sure why

Well the top picture clearly doesn't represent the 3rd phase of trials, as there wasn't one when the COVID vaccine was mandated lol
- Where was it mandated?
  
  Tons of places, and Biden tried nationally but thankfully the supreme Court shut him down
  
  My office, for one. But you prolly mean by government. Crossing the border in Canada led to the trucker thing. To be clear, I got my third booster last month. I’m pro-vax.
  
  Airplanes, trains, boats, gov employees, public service workers, private corp employees (based on gov advice - mostly office workers and sports players), all forms of healthcare workers, schools, immigrants, and military to name a few.
  But most of it has been repealed now thankfully
- Why do you need a 3rd ühase of trials in a pandemic? Do you also not wash your hands after pissing and shitting? There hasnt been a trial for that.
  Which source told you that medicine isnt safe if it doesnt get 3 trials?
  No homeopathy ever goes to trials.
  Your painkillers didnt get 3 trials.
  
  Right because injections and washing your hands are comparable.
  The "source that told me" was a bit of critical thought and common sense. This was a vaccine with tech we've never used on massive populations before, pushed by political leaders, followed by media outlets and gov leaders trying to paint everyone who questions it as if they're the worst people humanity has to offer. Ofc we need extensive trials for a vaccine like that (or any vaccine), especially when the producers of the vaccine are immune from liability.
  Do you remember what informed consent is? If you're injecting stuff into you, without fully understanding what either the virus itself can do, or what the vaccine can do, you're just blindly following people.
  It's this same mentality and confusion that lead to our current opioid pandemic. Blind trust in our institutions and leaders