Yeah, we've really done a fantastic job fucking the world up in the last century. It's truly incredible that in the blink of an eye, we've managed to doom most of the life that exists on our planet.
Microplastic a found in FUCKING CLOUDS!! That nonsense is absolutely everywhere, and will be there forever. And wherever you go, it’s going to follow you. Rubbish
There ARE bacteria that can digest certain plastics.
"plastic" is just a catch-all term for polymers, but there are different kinds made of different materials. Your phone case isn't the same plastic as a milk jug. (abs/PETG vs HDPE, their long science names don't really matter it's just to show the difference)
Over the decades, certain kinds of bacteria have been shown to eat certain plastics in the right conditions.
Unfortunately, it's those "right conditions" that make large scale plastic disposal via bacteria not feasible right now.
I'm sure someone is barreling toward discovering a "this thing eats almost all polymers in normal outside temperatures" to make their company more profitable, while ignoring the fact that if it breaks out of their containment areas, "bacteria that can eat all your plastic things in a few weeks breaks containment, billions in damages already" could potentially hit the headlines within a month.
Yeah, that's DoOmPoStInG but it's a potential thing that could happen, and people are actively TRYING to make some of those things happen already, so it's within possibility.
Some highlights:
Bottled water has much higher microplastics content than tap water.
Coral can ingest microplastics
Waste water treatment plants filter out most (but not all) microbeads into sludge. Some places use that sludge as fertilizer for farms.
Microplastics are in stuff you would not guess. Paper coffee cups have a plastic liner. Clothes put off large amounts of microplastics when washed. Tires put off microplastics. Some exfoliants and other cosmetics contain microplastics as microbeads.
So, the big stink about BPA (a type of plastic) e:below is that it interferes with certain hormones in the body. I don't know for sure what the concerns are with other microplastics, but I do remember reading they strongly suspect they can do similar things to our endocrine systems, as well as being probable carcinogens.
There was an article i saw on here a few weeks ago about a study linking microplastics to changes in the brain that have been associated with dementia.
As far as we know: almost nothing, but possibly anything. We don’t have an understanding of the effects. So far scientists have said that it could cause lung irritation if airborne, and may have some effect on hormones in the body.
I think theres no hard evidence that its outright causing stuff, but there's a lot of studies on some correlations. some involve phthalates messing with the male hormones and genitalia for offspring
The problem is that it's extremely difficult to tease out what the impact is when pretty much everyone is exposed to it and has it in their system. Are there connections between these chemicals and autism or cancer? We are just starting to see the preliminary data on the subject.
For me it's a matter of not being interested in waiting to find out 30 years down the road. My personal belief is that there is no such thing as food safe plastic and especially not when it’s heated or stored for long periods. I believe that there is and will continue to be a concerted effort to downplay any uncovered impact and to ensure till the last second that no steps are taken to regulate the billion dollar plastics/ manufacturing industry. The spice must flow just as the plastics must flow.
Maybe that’s a bit too far in the conspiracy theory vein but name a more iconic duo than large corporations and covering up known flaws and risks for the sake of profit. If nothing else I do not think you lose anything by shifting to glass and certain metals for cooking and storing food. And steps have to be taken to minimize exposure to food packaging that is sprayed with pfas. Looking at you, literally all fast food packaging.
Couple these revelations with what we know about hyper processed foods and it’s no wonder why so many Americans are dumb as Fuck and have so many health problems. We are being poisoned because of our insistence on convenience. We literally have great options for all of these things that are more sustainable and less toxic but we still can’t be inconvenienced by a paper wrapper on a hamburger that might end up a little wet on the ride home.
Of course even with all these steps there’s only so much one can do when you’re literally inhaling plastic from the atmosphere. But it’s certainly a move in the right direction.
What if the perceived increase in numbers of androgenous and trans people has a chemical basis: chemicals from plastics interfering with the endocrine system.
Actually, this is genius. Get the right wing climate change deniers to fight climate change by telling them that microplastics will turn their Chad of a son into a sissy girl
Haha, somebody go post this information in some right wing forums!
Are micro plastics responsible for your micro penis? Are they responsible for those trans people you seem to be so afraid of? Stop microplasitcs before they stop America from becoming the greatness that it never wasn't!
Holy shit, how is this not a super high priority right now? Not because of trans people but the conclusion that microplastics interfere with hormones seems super fucked up
that's far from what the study says. there is no research on the effects of plastic chemicals in human beings cited in the study, the vast majority of the data is in rats and mice. saying that its responsible for trans people requires some very large leaps of logic that aren't supported by the data or the conclusion of the study.
we have a great deal of anthropological evidence that other cultures conceive of sex and gender in wildly differing ways, both through history and in the modern era. gender identity is a complex social and cultural phenomenon, not some essential trait of the human body with a basis in endocrine function. maybe i'm just sensitive to this shit, but i can't see somebody making a claim like this without just fundamentally misunderstanding what being trans is.
I was reading What to expect before you're expecting and it says to stay away from any food that comes in any kind of plastic, esp if the plastic container needs to be heated/re-heated.
It says when it gets into your blood stream your body thinks it's estrogen.
The most fucked up part is the EPA says the risk is very low. Probably because plastics are literally everywhere, and banning them at this point would cause an economic catastrophe. Which it def would.
What if the perceived increase in numbers of androgenous and trans people has a chemical basis
I'd be willing to wager it's mostly due to it being safer to be "out" than it was just a few decades ago. Speaking as a 40-odd trans person, growing up in the 80's meant a much higher chance of getting your ass kicked or worse by your "peers" if you stepped out of line when it came to gender expression. I've always been what I am now, it's just that it's been safe to actually do it "out loud", at least for the past decade or so – that seems to be changing now that the right is radicalizing rapidly.
transgenderism has been a prominent aspect of virtually all human cultures dating back to the dawn of civilization. it wasn't until the Victorian era and colonialism that it was demonized. it's not some new phenomena caused by microplastics
Yeah, but it's possible the chances of it occuring are increased with micro plastics. Kinda like how exposure to some chemicals used in plastics seems to increase the likelihood of a child having ADHD. It's not the sole reason, nor are trans people new, but micro plastics might make trans people more common.
i mean like....whatever? it's not like i know what it feels like to not have microplastics inside me, so...whatever? nothing i can do. nothing anyone can do. would i be in a better mood or something?
Well what do you expect us to do about it; completely change our way of living as we know it and have been choosing not to do so for the past 50 years?
Companies mimic existing console terms and agreement whereby their products are still their property despite you having bought them, and can now demand ownership over fetuses as they are now at least 1% company property. WW3 will be between the Applings, Googlers and Amazonites. Personally I'm rooting for Amazon because out of those three they've already gone the cool route with how they've mentally roboticized their work force; exchanging parts of their bodies with actual machine parts is just the next logical step and will help them do their jobs better and faster. The Googlers will still have an edge because they know where everything is, and they know how it all works. The Applings? They're the scrappy underdogs just like they are today; no one thinks Apple can keep up and they keep dicing with death but keep winning even though the odds have been stacked against them; Apple's the plucky underdog it's always been, coming up with brand new gadgets every single time.
Honestly corporations keep showing us a brighter and cooler future! If we're lucky, blade runner and cyberpunk 2077 will just be the tip of the iceberg.
The secret in all this though? Everyone cuts a deal with the Nestlers; they'll own all the water, and that water? Primary source of fetus microplastics; you want to tip the tides in favor of a new legion of Applings in twenty years? You grease the Nestler palm.
We have absolutely no idea what (if anything) micro plastics will do now that they're small enough to get through the blood brain barrier. Could be harmless, could be like how led was seemingly innocuous
Yes and it is being thoroughly investigated, as it should be. But so far nothing has been found, so sensationalism is only detrimental as:
it takes away focus from materials that have actually been found to be harmful
puts public pressure on researchers, and if they don't find something quick it might be the end of the whole field, and then they might have difficulties funding research on future polymers
builds up anxiety about something we can't do anything about (the plastics are there and they're here to stay for a while)
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In this YouTube video titled "Microplastics, Public Health Myth or Menace," the speaker presents a balanced perspective on the growing concern over microplastics. They acknowledge the global issue of plastic waste but highlight that the majority of plastic waste is found in landfills rather than the oceans. The speaker argues that the current understanding and potential risks associated with microplastics are based on preliminary data, and presenting them as a major threat without concrete evidence could damage their reputation. However, the speaker also acknowledges the presence of microplastics in various environmental sources, and while the evidence regarding their impact on human health is limited, more comprehensive studies are needed to determine their effects. The speaker concludes by emphasizing the need for responsible waste management practices and the consideration of the chemicals carried by microplastics in assessing their potential impact on health.
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The speaker raises concerns about the inconsistency in addressing the issue of microplastics, highlighting how some bans were implemented without evidence of health impacts, while other important issues are overlooked. They stress the global need to address waste and caution researchers to be careful in presenting their findings to avoid misleading the public. They emphasize the importance of influencing politicians to take immediate action and integrate solutions into larger agendas. The speaker concludes by emphasizing the urgency of the problem and the need for long-term responses.