Biden Is Wrong. The Supreme Court Is Already “Politicized.”
Biden Is Wrong. The Supreme Court Is Already “Politicized.”
President Biden said he won’t expand the Supreme Court because doing so would “politicize” the court in an unhealthy way. But it’s a political institution by its nature — and a disturbingly undemocratic one.
President Biden said he won’t expand the Supreme Court because doing so would “politicize” the court in an unhealthy way. But it’s a political institution by its nature — and a disturbingly undemocratic one.
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This is classic Biden. It's classic center-right Democrat speak. The Republicans predictably do something bad decades after they started trying to accomplish it, and centrist Washington Democrats sit around doing nothing. I can't say they betrayed my expectations because this is exactly what they have been doing for the last 20 years.
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Yeah this is basically the way the Democrats of operated my entire life and possibly longer.
They claim there needs to be a strong Republican party and that they want bipartisanship. They already are starting off as being More right wing than every single European conservative party or any conservative party in the OECD basically on issues like health care and social policy.
Same with the debt ceiling thing. There was a million ways around that besides caving to the Republicans on cutting food stamps.
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If FDR couldnt pack the courts what makes you think Biden can with far less support
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I don't think he can, but he shouldn't give up the fight before it's even started. If you have the presidency the bully pulpit you could at least start to put the idea into the minds of the Americans and normalize. It certainly better than just bending over.
Mean there's not a very good chance for a single-payer healthcare system to be instituted anytime soon but that doesn't mean politician shouldn't openly advocate for it.
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Obama couldn't even get Merrick Garland on the bench... This country is ill
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and centrist Washington Democrats sit around doing nothing
Democrats have only the slimmest possible Senate majority and lost the House majority. If voters don't give them the tools to unfuck what Republicans do, it's not the Democrats fault.
You voters gave Republicans 3 Surpreme court judges. It was your fault in 2016, it is your responsibility to fix it. You can't blame democrats for "doing nothing" when you don't let them do anything
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What is the worst Republicans can do if the Dems did expand the court? Expand it further?
I can only imagine such a thing would lead to better and fairer results
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Maybe have the new justices vote on some sort of involuntary, non dis-chargeable, clear language, ethical code that everyone who joins signs? Maybe mandatory minimum sentences if they break it?
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I’d bet $1 on Trump winning the next election and then expanding the court. Just think about whatever the worst likely scenario is; that’s also the most probable. The Republicants have spent 30 years de-educating and numbing America.
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Wouldn't it just turn into every new president expanding the court until it benefits them? What's the limit? Honestly asking IDK.
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We should probably just abolish the court as it has no functional value anyways.
The fact is, Republicans effectively stole to supreme Court seats based on legislative tactics. This is basically unprecedented.
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I actually think expanding the Supreme Court should be a long-term project: one new seat per presidential term, until the court has a total of 15 seats in 2044 (15 being a number I pulled out of my ass, just seems like a good size to me). That's a slow enough rollout that it can't be accused of one party stuffing the court, and it's fair because it gives several future presidents a say. Is that sufficiently 'non-politicized'?
Not that this kind of compromise would be acceptable to the other side anyway, they'll call foul no matter what because they're winning right now and won't accept anything that could potentially challenge that.
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not an american, so i have no real… uh… i was gonna say skin in the game but tbh the whole western world has skin in the game… regardless:
if that were to happen i’d say it’d get to a point where the number of justices deadlocks the court, and either makes it entirely symbolic or there’s a bipartisan agreement that something needs to be fixed and that’s how you get systemic change
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Yup. The only limit is the American population of judges, that is until they figure out how to outsource it. As American democracy deteriorates further, people want to break down institutions and the separation of powers in order to give more power to the executive. Because currently, that benefits them. At every step of the way both Rs and Ds will justify their powergrabs by saying the other would've done it. What could possibly go wrong?
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All these "vote blue no matter who" boat shoe lickers should make sure to put this on top of the stack of reasons they trot out at every opportunity. Roasting on all of us to fall in line all the time is bullshit when any rational person can look at this and legitimately say "why should I care?" Are they as bad as the christian nationalist fascists that are getting frothed up to start killing? Probably not but kinda. This is the shit that MLK was talking about when he was locked in the Birmingham jail. These god damn white moderates don't wanna ruffle any feathers or bring about actual change so they're going to sit on their hands. This is akin to locking the doors on a movie theater with an arsonist in it so that the police can come and bring the criminal to justice. You don't want to come off as some sort of vigilante so best to have the proper authorities come sort it out. At the same time, what kind of person would you be to let the arsonist get away?
If anyone tells you that someone always deserves your vote, then they better damn well preface it with a huge piece on why and how we need to be on these politicians cases from the jump to hold them accountable. How we need to show up and protest in front of their houses and at every event until they keep their promises. We need a PSA every time that while there might not be a viable alternative in voting, we need to band together and make these fuckers lives uncomfortable to the point that they give a shit now. No more pleas for votes unless they come with that message. These fuckers are just trying to kick the can down the road far enough so that they're dead by the time we have to fight these cross burners in the streets.
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Biden was the better choice between two garbage candidates because no one voted in the primaries. This was literally his platform, and most who did vote wanted that.
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Sorry but we have to fall in line because that's exactly what the Republicans do every election. Part of the reason they were able to shift things so dramatically is because they fell in line and voted for Republicans they weren't in love with. Each one wasn't perfect, but normalized their shitty behavior and expectations grew and grew.
You can stand on principal if you want. There have been principals that I have stood on to my own detriment. But it will be to our detriment.
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So according to you, things are bad in this country because republicans vote thoughtlessly and stand behind poor candidates. We need to emulate that so that we can also vote in poor candidates to counteract that. We should do this, like they do, without real discussion or demands for accountability.
It is already to our detriment. That's what the article is about.
My comment said that people who regurgitate the blue no matter who line are the problem unless they demand accountability or action as a preface. so you.Stop pushing the narrative of voter accountability and shift that on to candidates. Nobody has to fall in love but also if you keep asking people to vote with a gun to their head without offering a path away from that, eventually they will just accept the gun. To all of our detriment.
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You can both vote for the better candidate in an election, which will be blue almost every time, and be an activist and push for an cause progress above and beyond what the Dems are willing and able to do themselves. But using the fact that they don't do enough or don't effectively stop the insane right wing as a reason to either not vote or vote for a candidate with 0% chance of winning is foolish and the reason we are where we are right now.
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I'm not sure who said not to vote or to vote 3rd party anywhere in this thread?
Also, that would not be the reason we are here right now.
We've been presented with a binary choice of evil and lesser evil. The greater evil of christo-fascism was always waiting for its moment. Tracing that to any definitive event is an exercise in futility. It could be Dem politicians shifting economically right after Regan to try to capture "moderates." It could be electing a black president, whose mere existence the right took as an affront to their American tradition of closeted racist jokes. It could be yoloing a presidential candidate and just assuming a win because the other candidate is a joke. It probably wasn't any of those things, but we shouldn't be trying to frame our abusers actions as our fault to begin with.
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All these “vote blue no matter who” boat shoe lickers
You're the bootlicker. Just help Republicans even more. It was people like you who gave Trump 3 Supreme Court justices and now you blame democrats for it instead of giving them the solid majorities to fix anything.
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Ah yes, it was us the unmotivated and uncaring general public who gave Republicans every victory and are responsible for a branch of government we have absolutely no say in determining, nominating or appointing outside of our ability to "vote blue." Beyond the vanity of RGB not wanting to step down or clearly recognizing disturbing precedents after Bush Vs Gore, it falls on the back of the voter to do more and accept less. Sure, leadership completely slept and let Republicans gerrymander half the country so bad that we lose even when we show up in greater numbers at every election. But please, won't you think of all the people we've failed to help while we were in office and keep electing us so that we at some point we may help them?
You post a list of all these people and things that establishment Dems have failed to protect for the last 30 years and say that's the reason they need your vote no matter what? That pretty gross. The entirety of my point is that message needs to be prefaced, exactly by people like you, with calls for accountability and higher standards in who we are voting in to office. If these politicians are such masters of the craft then why the hell are they so good at fundraising and so bad at winning these battles. The old guard has failed us. Stop making such a spectacle of tongue tickling their footware and attempting to convince others that it's virtuous.
If you want to make a difference, then why don't you take my suggestion and start pushing for candidates who will go beyond their performative grandstanding and actually start fighting back against these things. Speaking out for promissory blocks or attempting to better the pool of candidates by demanding more isn't going to change the taste of the blooker all that much. The people that we're trying to stop need a higher caliber of opponent if we're going to succeed.
Also, Hillary lost because she was an uninspired candidate who didn't really try and arrogantly thought it was in the bag. It was literally her election to lose and she did. Get over it.
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I think we should have some serious discussions about how we want to deal with the Supreme Court. I’m not saying packing the court is the right option, but they’ve become far too right wing at this point, and they’re supposed to be politically neutral.
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Even if Biden wanted to pack the court, the numbers just aren't there to support that action. Like we can't really have a discussion when there is "half" of this country who are just looking at this saying this is good and even if it is "politically" loaded its on their own team, so why care.
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how about - hear me out here - fixed terms for supreme court justices?
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He's saying that because he can't expand the Surpreme Court. Like, with what Senate? You could talk about expanding the court if you have solidly more than 60 senators, but with 50 on a very good day? Sorry, that's just not happening.
How about people give him that Senate majority, or even better, build a time machine and prevent Trump so he doesn't get 3 judge. Biden isnt to blame for this court, but the American voters are. It's their responsibility to fix it, and if they don't even give Biden the tools to fix it, how is he supposed to do it then?
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Law and Justice in Poland didn't have such objections. xD